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TSC_1 wrote...
Stygian1 wrote...
Back on the Line. Any news?... preferably good.
They tweeted that we shouldn't expect a statement for at least a fortnight.
xHezz90 wrote...
TamiBx wrote...
xHezz90 wrote...
http://i1192.photobu...90/c10e8949.jpg
So true <3
I hated the ending of Lost, but at least I knew what happened to the characters...
I know right? I mean I watched and loved lost and was severely disappointed in the ending, but like you said at least we knew what happened to the character. Heck we even found out what happened to Boone and Ian Somerhalder must have been busy with The Vampire Diaries as well.
MeldarthX wrote...
This is where you're wrong - I can understand how you think this - but remember this isn't a sprint -- get get as far as we have as quickly as we have is in itself amazing - revolutionary.
<Forgive the snip please>
WE HOLD THE LINE -
Copying over what I wrote in PR forum for those that haven't seen.
Computim wrote...
Sounds like they're shooting for PAX East timing.
Not exactly the best forum to announce you're changing the ending.. what with the main founder of PAX East not thinking you should haha.
Computim wrote...
MeldarthX wrote...
http://xbigygames.co...ct-3-purchases/
http://www.oxm.co.uk...-xbox-360-case/
These also popped up - Origin refunding that's interesting.....very
Indeed.. Looks like EA's trying to isolate itself from Bioware. Excellent damage control on their part.
Not to mention they're putting a lot of backing behind Origin
Cybermortis wrote...
MeldarthX wrote...
This is where you're wrong - I can understand how you think this - but remember this isn't a sprint -- get get as far as we have as quickly as we have is in itself amazing - revolutionary.
<Forgive the snip please>
WE HOLD THE LINE -
Copying over what I wrote in PR forum for those that haven't seen.
OK, for the first time in over a week I'm laughing out loud and then some.
The irony of the situation has just become apparent to me. One way or another we can truly be said to have changed the game.
I'll be in the corner giggling like a small child if anyone needs me.
OK, its late, I'm tired have a headache and am still recovering from finishing the game...that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it
- But if you go and read the PR forum you'll see - We're making the rules - and it has BW/EA scared......
BobbyTheI wrote...
xHezz90 wrote...
TamiBx wrote...
So true <3
I hated the ending of Lost, but at least I knew what happened to the characters...
I know right? I mean I watched and loved lost and was severely disappointed in the ending, but like you said at least we knew what happened to the character. Heck we even found out what happened to Boone and Ian Somerhalder must have been busy with The Vampire Diaries as well.
I've been of mixed feelings about the Lost finale for a while. One critic put it well: if you were in the show for the characters, the finale was great. If you were in it to have the mysteries answered, the finale was a big double bird to you.
Ironic, considering ME3's ending is almost exactly the opposite, except the answers to the mysteries were absolutely terrible.
Alamandorious wrote...
Computim wrote...
MeldarthX wrote...
http://xbigygames.co...ct-3-purchases/
http://www.oxm.co.uk...-xbox-360-case/
These also popped up - Origin refunding that's interesting.....very
Indeed.. Looks like EA's trying to isolate itself from Bioware. Excellent damage control on their part.
Not to mention they're putting a lot of backing behind Origin
This kind of thing worries me. We aren't trying to take Bioware down, we're trying to give us proper endings for the series.
I'd caution everyone not to take too much joy out of that; if Bioware goes down, then we'll never see the ending. I know that isn't likely, but...just cautioning.
Modifié par Computim, 21 mars 2012 - 01:40 .
TSC_1 wrote...
Computim wrote...
Sounds like they're shooting for PAX East timing.
Not exactly the best forum to announce you're changing the ending.. what with the main founder of PAX East not thinking you should haha.
I think that's exactly what they're shooting for. Seems like a terrible idea to me, but I'm not in charge, so...
Trojan_33 wrote...
Mythandariel wrote...
Wertom Three wrote...
Remind me why you're not working for BioWare again? That's the best ending I've heard yet. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.Trojan_33 wrote...
I was expecting a boss battle with Harbinger, myself. Since they didn't give me one, I came up with an idea on my own. What do ya think?
TO EVERYONE WANTING A BATTLE WITH HARBINGER:
With the Geth Fighter mission and the Project Overlord DLC, interacting with an AI world is possible soooo...
Using Indoc Theory, relying on plot change back to Dark Energy stated by this guy (awesome overall info and ideas), how about there is no interface or protocols for using the weapon? An interface could be brought by Geth or from Citadel maintenance VI overwhelming Shepherd like in Overlord. She/he sees everything that the Citadel sees and he mentally projects (points gun if necessary to keep a mental handle on the situation) damage to a nearby Reaper, the crucible fires and immense blast that rips the Reaper in half.
(mentally projecting defense in form of shields) Reapers attacks against the crucible fail. Harbinger attaches himeself to the Citadel and then Shepherd and Harbinger dialogue and then fight in the virtual world. War assest and readiness come into play at a crucial moment, when Hackett notices the the crucible is no longer firing and commands all available fleets to attack harbinger while he's attached to citadel, at the same moment Harbinger is winning the virtual world fight but if he is damaged significantly he can't maintain his virtual attacks on Shepherd.
Insert awesome quotes, fight sequences/moments, and there ya go.
THOUGHTS??
May I use this in my fic?<3<3<3<3
Are you writing a book or just personal stuff?
Jere85 wrote...
Nice, would like to see AngryJoe's thoughts about the theory
Modifié par Luiginius, 21 mars 2012 - 01:43 .
I imagine they will make a statement at pax.TSC_1 wrote...
Stygian1 wrote...
Back on the Line. Any news?... preferably good.
They tweeted that we shouldn't expect a statement for at least a fortnight.
Computim wrote...
I'm not too worried. If they announce that they're changing the ending my first thing will be posting on Facebook to go get the game. I guarantee most people will be buying them back, yeah they'll lose a bit of money, but I"m pretty sure they've already made a profit off this game. Bioware's not going anywhere.. they've got TOR and ME3 has potential to be good... and C&C Generals 2 is coming out (Will be getting that if they announce changing ending)
TSC_1 wrote...
Jere85 wrote...
Nice, would like to see AngryJoe's thoughts about the theory
I don't know... the way he worded it concerns me. The only reason I like the idea is because it fixes the endings. But an epilogue? Seems like that might be an attempt to explain the terrible endings and explain what happened to the characters instead of actually fixing the endings.
MeldarthX wrote...
This is where you're wrong - I can understand how you think this - but remember this isn't a sprint -- get get as far as we have as quickly as we have is in itself amazing - revolutionary.
Old days to get a company to even admit some of their fans aka majority - dislike something of there would take months usually. We're rewriting the rules of PR.
ATG has confirmed this - along with others. Second - if there was no "The Truth" dlc already planned - I still have a theory they did - but that's another subject.
Right now - they are meeting to see how quickly something could be done and for how much - they will then put this against the econ of not doing anything. If one is greater than the other........we will get our fix.
Thirdly - we have them scared - terrified - because we most so quickly - anything they are trying to calm the storm - to try and generate good PR for themselves - we shut it done - we give our counter arguement. We do it calmly - respectfully.
There's been an influx of forums saying we love the endings - they die fast - move out. Those are created by BW and EA to try and flood out this sub; and So We can't get the ending we want. These two subs dominate the forums along with the ME3 suggestion forum. You honestly thing BW/EA want those subs at the top? Heck no - just keeps feeding our cause.
We're the top searches in google - again a nightmare for BW and EA - in the UK ME3 has dropped in sales by 74% - word of mouth is hitting - peopel are understanding why we are doing this; and getting behind us.
First time in history of gaming; gamers are actually being looked at as consumers and customers instead of just scum. Getting Forbes behind us; gettin noticed in main stream media. We were on front page of bbc news website.
HUGE - Their silence is deafing - their tweets of we are listen - They are and they are scared - they tested the waters possibly on early monday morning with saying there won't be any new ending content - It exploded on them - when you got to pull a community manager out of bed at 3 am - to keep it from completely boiling over. That's a PR nightmare - We keep the pressure on.......we will only have one chance to change history in gaming for the better.........THIS IS OUR CHANCE. They want people to start posting like this - they think the old PR rules still will work....
They won't - they are slowly learning this.
WE HOLD THE LINE -
Copying over what I wrote in PR forum for those that haven't seen.
Alamandorious wrote...
This kind of thing worries me. We aren't trying to take Bioware down, we're trying to give us proper endings for the series.
I'd caution everyone not to take too much joy out of that; if Bioware goes down, then we'll never see the ending. I know that isn't likely, but...just cautioning.
Alamandorious wrote...
Computim wrote...
MeldarthX wrote...
http://xbigygames.co...ct-3-purchases/
http://www.oxm.co.uk...-xbox-360-case/
These also popped up - Origin refunding that's interesting.....very
Indeed.. Looks like EA's trying to isolate itself from Bioware. Excellent damage control on their part.
Not to mention they're putting a lot of backing behind Origin
This kind of thing worries me. We aren't trying to take Bioware down, we're trying to give us proper endings for the series.
I'd caution everyone not to take too much joy out of that; if Bioware goes down, then we'll never see the ending. I know that isn't likely, but...just cautioning.
MeldarthX wrote...
LOL Glad to of made you laugh
thats a pretty badass idea. i would love for that to happen along with a epilouge based off the choices u made and a little after credits scene with ur LI. U and liara holding a little asari's hands, u and tali next to ur new house on her home world, jack's "getting laid" scene etc. i think things like this is what the fans including me wanted.Trojan_33 wrote...
Wertom Three wrote...
Remind me why you're not working for BioWare again? That's the best ending I've heard yet. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.Trojan_33 wrote...
I was expecting a boss battle with Harbinger, myself. Since they didn't give me one, I came up with an idea on my own. What do ya think?
TO EVERYONE WANTING A BATTLE WITH HARBINGER:
With the Geth Fighter mission and the Project Overlord DLC, interacting with an AI world is possible soooo...
Using Indoc Theory, relying on plot change back to Dark Energy stated by this guy (awesome overall info and ideas), how about there is no interface or protocols for using the weapon? An interface could be brought by Geth or from Citadel maintenance VI overwhelming Shepherd like in Overlord. She/he sees everything that the Citadel sees and he mentally projects (points gun if necessary to keep a mental handle on the situation) damage to a nearby Reaper, the crucible fires and immense blast that rips the Reaper in half.
(mentally projecting defense in form of shields) Reapers attacks against the crucible fail. Harbinger attaches himeself to the Citadel and then Shepherd and Harbinger dialogue and then fight in the virtual world. War assest and readiness come into play at a crucial moment, when Hackett notices the the crucible is no longer firing and commands all available fleets to attack harbinger while he's attached to citadel, at the same moment Harbinger is winning the virtual world fight but if he is damaged significantly he can't maintain his virtual attacks on Shepherd.
Insert awesome quotes, fight sequences/moments, and there ya go.
THOUGHTS??
Kinda hard to get in the creative dept when your resume is all in the computer networking side, lol. Thanks for the compliment.
Modifié par M2S SOLID JOSH, 21 mars 2012 - 01:50 .
xHezz90 wrote...
You know I am actually sick of hearing about the Indoctrination theory, isn't this exactly what Bioware wanted? they wanted US to make up the ending....looks to me like they succeeded. Instead of just saying the ending makes no logical sense at all, people are clinging to an indoctrination theory proving Bioware right and giving them exactly what they wanted from making the ending.
*cough* sorry, I guess that has just kind of been boiling in me for a little while now.
Cybermortis wrote...
Of course it is perfectly possible for them to redo the ending. If they can make a 2 hour DLC they can make an ending DLC...Heck it would be cheaper because they don't HAVE to create new areas, creatures ect. They can use existing assets that are already in game. Nor do they need another 2 hours of gameplay...the problem has always been the last 5-10 minutes. They could get away with a diolog-only ending with cut-scenes, depending on what they write.
As for voice talent...Seriously Bioware have a fairly large cast of dependable voice actors they have been relying on since KOTOR - I think the actor voicing Carth Onasi in KOTOR is the same actor who voices Kaden in the ME series. They can get these actors in to record additional lines at fairly short notice, and frankly if I was one of the actors involved I'd be more than happy to go into a studio for an hour or two to record extra material.
Basically while it would cost time and money, it wouldn't be as much time and money as, say, future SP DLC - which it should be added would be somewhat pointless to produce if no one is going to buy it anyway.
Alamandorious wrote...
Just had a look at IGN's 'Are you happy with the end of Mass Effect 3' poll on Facebook...over a thousand people are happy with it...to the over 13,000 that aren't so far.
Did that backfire for them or what? ^^
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