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[DifferentD17]

Jere85 wrote...

Mmmh i guess it was just me, just some popup stating the forum rules and stuff. pretty general things

That's been there since the Spacer edition leak about the ending. 20+ days ago.

[B33ker]

Experimentel wrote...

Two weeks until official statement? In April? 
If this is a huge April Fool's joke I will scream.

If it is it will only cement my wallet shut even more when it comes to EA/BW to pull this sort of lame ass stunt.

[Puppet_Guy]

Experimentel wrote...

Puppet_Guy wrote...
It IS strange that no-one even reacted to the kid outside of Shepard...
Hold onto whatever hope you can, my friend.

I noticed that too. You'd think one of the people in the shuttle would help the kid on but... huh. 

Two weeks until official statement? In April? 
If this is a huge April Fool's joke I will scream.

I think a lot of us will...  Heck, even the supporters of the ending might flip out as well.

[Cybermortis]

Experimentel wrote...

Two weeks until official statement? In April? 
If this is a huge April Fool's joke I will scream.

They would not have let such a 'joke' run for this long, especially considering the amount of damage it is doing to them.

And if they did...well I'd imagine that the 'bunker' PR mentality would have to become a little more literal....

[Aedera]

So, many moon ago, I read an investment book and one of the tips I took out of it was invest in what you know. So I invested in video game stocks with a least a portion of my investments, specifically, EA and activision. Granted, the move hasnt exactly panned out but i though I knew the companies well enough to be comfortable with what they sold and ea in particular with the sports franchises and bioware titles, I knew had a pretty good core of titles to generate the all important dollar.

But this lack of communication is really telling. It is bad enough it is a sub par product with various import bugs, in game bugs and the endings, but to really not say much of anything about it but "we are collecting data and listening! Promise!!" is disappointing to say the least.

This would go all away (the retake me3, bad pr and jumping on every word they say) if they just offered up a difinitive statement regarding the endings. Just a yes we are working new endings or no, space magic stays.

The numbers speak for themeselves - 80 - 90% just think the endings need to be revamped for a bunch of reasons, the drop off in sales, the price cuts. All of it. If bioware wants to ignore this fine. Though as a shareholder and fan of their work, I wish they wouldn't ignore the fans that allow them to keep their jobs.

The longer they ignore us, the longer before we will trust them.

Hold the line.

[LazarusMP]

Chris Priestly @BioEvilChris

Tomorrow we'll reveal more PAX East plans. 2panels already announced, but details on the BioWare base room, who's coming and more. #PAXEast

Hmm... So perhaps the rumblings that we'd hear some tidbit of information on Wednesday may have had a bit of substance after all...

Modifié par LazarusMP, 21 mars 2012 - 02:25 .

[DJBare]

Leaving the line to hit the cot, be well, be strong and hold the line!

[Computim]

Aedera wrote...

So, many moon ago, I read an investment book and one of the tips I took out of it was invest in what you know. So I invested in video game stocks with a least a portion of my investments, specifically, EA and activision. Granted, the move hasnt exactly panned out but i though I knew the companies well enough to be comfortable with what they sold and ea in particular with the sports franchises and bioware titles, I knew had a pretty good core of titles to generate the all important dollar.

But this lack of communication is really telling. It is bad enough it is a sub par product with various import bugs, in game bugs and the endings, but to really not say much of anything about it but "we are collecting data and listening! Promise!!" is disappointing to say the least.

This would go all away (the retake me3, bad pr and jumping on every word they say) if they just offered up a difinitive statement regarding the endings. Just a yes we are working new endings or no, space magic stays.

The numbers speak for themeselves - 80 - 90% just think the endings need to be revamped for a bunch of reasons, the drop off in sales, the price cuts. All of it. If bioware wants to ignore this fine. Though as a shareholder and fan of their work, I wish they wouldn't ignore the fans that allow them to keep their jobs.

The longer they ignore us, the longer before we will trust them.

Hold the line.

According to the media we have no say.  Please, oh gracious holder of EA sacred stock, please take this message to them on our behalfs. 

"Fix your ending, or we're done buying your games...and we might take this one back... kthx bye".

[Luiginius]

I swear none of the reviewers have read any of the classic scifi novels. Jesus, read any of the better Clarke or Asymov books, calling the ending of me3 deep or thought provoking sounds so ridiculous it's not even funny when you compare it to the people they try to emulate.

[ArmyKnifeX]

 From the other thread:

atghunter wrote...




Some of these questions are fun to answer as they allow me to speculate as much as everyone else.

We have firmly established that Bioware/EA has every conceivable PR lockdown measure going they can.  Problem is, they have to keep responding to tweets or they will get called out for it.

Imagine that you are at a desk and all day long people are calling you about the sixteen setting toaster that burns your toast on all sixteen settings.  How many times do you think it takes before that person gets so frustrated saying "thank you for your input" they blurt out "some people like 16 different types of burnt toast!"

The PR guys are walking on eggshells trying not to stir anything up (look at Sunday night).  The twitter thing is probably just someone needing to blow off steam and chose the wrong way to do it.

Social Media, meet Bunker.  Bunker, enjoy meeting Social Media 
 
As always, stay strong, stay passionate (yet civil), and let your voice be heard no matter where you stand!
 
Hold the Line!

 

[Cybermortis]

SSV Mortis retiring after a long day on the line.

Stay civil, stay calm and hold the line!

[-PG-Skyre]

I like how the media keeps saying we are a minority. Just goes to show, you don't need to have any knowledge of maths (even the basics) to work as a reporter.
When 30% is the highest amount of people in a poll saying they either like or can live with the ending (even if they don't like it), then its kinda obvious they the minority are the ones liking the ending.

Still, hold the line guys. No matter what BW/EA puppets think or say, we know we are stronger (remember, if the internet can make a government stop something it planned -SOPA- then BW changing ME3s ending should be an easier target).

[Teacher50]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Puppet_Guy wrote...
It IS strange that no-one even reacted to the kid outside of Shepard...
Hold onto whatever hope you can, my friend.

Not only that but the way the scene was set up where the kid was introduced was basically the setup for "hallucination child" in every other form of media. The dreams kept hammering this home. The fact that he was the catalyst though was, in retrospect, their way of foreshadowing him. Then again the fact that Shepard sees himself BURNING in the Dream with the Reaper noise towards the end could mean indoctrination... I hope it does, at least.

For some reason I keep thinking the dream sequences were something that were inserted later to set up the poor ending.

[Missy_MI]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...
Not only that but the way the scene was set up where the kid was introduced was basically the setup for "hallucination child" in every other form of media. The dreams kept hammering this home. The fact that he was the catalyst though was, in retrospect, their way of foreshadowing him. Then again the fact that Shepard sees himself BURNING in the Dream with the Reaper noise towards the end could mean indoctrination... I hope it does, at least.

Yeah, what I can't figure out is why Shepard's mind would choose the image of the kid at the end to represent the creator of the Reapers.  Legion's geth collective mission implied Shepard's mind would fill in what she couldn't comprehend with placeholders.  Like why she has a gun to destroy infected Reaper code - Shepard understands guns.

But that kid... the analogy just doesn't apply for me.  I agree with what others have stated that the child represents all Shepard lost, the people she can't save, her doubts and fears about defeating the Reapers.  It was somewhat disturbing during the last nightmare where the child runs into someone's arms and it's Shepard, staring back with this creepy smile as they are both engulfed in flames...

But if that is the case, why choose the symbol of something Shepard would instinctively try to protect (and actively chasing after and trying to save during reoccuring nightmares throughout the entire duration of ME3) as the representation of the ultimate 'bad guy' of the series - the Reaper creator who, regardless of the 'reason' why, has committed unspeakable genocide throughout history?

That just... doesn't make sense.  An Asari phantom would make more sense than an innocent kid.

[Ampmaster]

Computim wrote...

Ampmaster wrote...

www.oxm.co.uk/39677/blog/why-im-thrilled-that-bioware-upset-their-fans/

Another reviewer who's missing the point completely

Irony is he was concerned that EA was ruining it just over a year ago...quite a sense of entitlement he has, telling Bioware not to 'dumb the game down'

http://oxm.future.ne...-mass-effect-3/

Internet: 1 - Press Hipocrisy: 0 

Ahhhhh sweet, sweet hipocrisy

[DifferentD17]

I bet they made rumors about not responding for at least 2 more weeks so people would feel discouraged.

[MeldarthX]

Aedera wrote...

So, many moon ago, I read an investment book and one of the tips I took out of it was invest in what you know. So I invested in video game stocks with a least a portion of my investments, specifically, EA and activision. Granted, the move hasnt exactly panned out but i though I knew the companies well enough to be comfortable with what they sold and ea in particular with the sports franchises and bioware titles, I knew had a pretty good core of titles to generate the all important dollar.

But this lack of communication is really telling. It is bad enough it is a sub par product with various import bugs, in game bugs and the endings, but to really not say much of anything about it but "we are collecting data and listening! Promise!!" is disappointing to say the least.

This would go all away (the retake me3, bad pr and jumping on every word they say) if they just offered up a difinitive statement regarding the endings. Just a yes we are working new endings or no, space magic stays.

The numbers speak for themeselves - 80 - 90% just think the endings need to be revamped for a bunch of reasons, the drop off in sales, the price cuts. All of it. If bioware wants to ignore this fine. Though as a shareholder and fan of their work, I wish they wouldn't ignore the fans that allow them to keep their jobs.

The longer they ignore us, the longer before we will trust them.

Hold the line.

Actually - not only as a customer but as a shareholder........You have a lot of power and ask a lot of unconfortable questions - by law they have to answer you........

[Puppet_Guy]

Missy_MI wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...
Not only that but the way the scene was set up where the kid was introduced was basically the setup for "hallucination child" in every other form of media. The dreams kept hammering this home. The fact that he was the catalyst though was, in retrospect, their way of foreshadowing him. Then again the fact that Shepard sees himself BURNING in the Dream with the Reaper noise towards the end could mean indoctrination... I hope it does, at least.

Yeah, what I can't figure out is why Shepard's mind would choose the image of the kid at the end to represent the creator of the Reapers.  Legion's geth collective mission implied Shepard's mind would fill in what she couldn't comprehend with placeholders.  Like why she has a gun to destroy infected Reaper code - Shepard understands guns.

But that kid... the analogy just doesn't apply for me.  I agree with what others have stated that the child represents all Shepard lost, the people she can't save, her doubts and fears about defeating the Reapers.  It was somewhat disturbing during the last nightmare where the child runs into someone's arms and it's Shepard, staring back with this creepy smile as they are both engulfed in flames...

But if that is the case, why choose the symbol of something Shepard would instinctively try to protect (and actively chasing after and trying to save during reoccuring nightmares throughout the entire duration of ME3) as the representation of the ultimate 'bad guy' of the series - the Reaper creator who, regardless of the 'reason' why, has committed unspeakable genocide throughout history?

That just... doesn't make sense.  An Asari phantom would make more sense than an innocent kid.

Or maybe if your Shep was a Sole Survivor, a Thresher Maw...  With Harbinger's voice.  THAT would do something nasty to their head.

It's constantly ironic that the more we think about these plotholes, the less sense it makes...

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Can I just say something about the wee kid according to the art book I got with the CE it says
"One child would be the face of the people on Earth whom Shepard could not save"

[Alamandorious]

Signing out for the night.

Hold the line!

Keelah Se'lai

[ld1449]

MeldarthX wrote...

This is where you're wrong - I can understand how you think this - but remember this isn't a sprint -- get get as far as we have as quickly as we have is in itself amazing - revolutionary.

Old days to get a company to even admit some of their fans aka majority - dislike something of there would take months usually. We're rewriting the rules of PR.

ATG has confirmed this - along with others. Second - if there was no "The Truth" dlc already planned - I still have a theory they did - but that's another subject.

Right now - they are meeting to see how quickly something could be done and for how much - they will then put this against the econ of not doing anything. If one is greater than the other........we will get our fix.

Thirdly - we have them scared - terrified - because we most so quickly - anything they are trying to calm the storm - to try and generate good PR for themselves - we shut it done - we give our counter arguement. We do it calmly - respectfully.

There's been an influx of forums saying we love the endings - they die fast - move out. Those are created by BW and EA to try and flood out this sub; and So We can't get the ending we want. These two subs dominate the forums along with the ME3 suggestion forum. You honestly thing BW/EA want those subs at the top? Heck no - just keeps feeding our cause.

We're the top searches in google - again a nightmare for BW and EA - in the UK ME3 has dropped in sales by 74% - word of mouth is hitting - peopel are understanding why we are doing this; and getting behind us.

First time in history of gaming; gamers are actually being looked at as consumers and customers instead of just scum. Getting Forbes behind us; gettin noticed in main stream media. We were on front page of bbc news website.

HUGE - Their silence is deafing - their tweets of we are listen - They are and they are scared - they tested the waters possibly on early monday morning with saying there won't be any new ending content - It exploded on them - when you got to pull a community manager out of bed at 3 am - to keep it from completely boiling over. That's a PR nightmare - We keep the pressure on.......we will only have one chance to change history in gaming for the better.........THIS IS OUR CHANCE. They want people to start posting like this - they think the old PR rules still will work....

They won't - they are slowly learning this.

WE HOLD THE LINE -

Copying over what I wrote in PR forum for those that haven't seen.

THIS a hundred times this!!!

Stay strong, stay resilient and keep fighting this thing we already have the numbers now we need perserverence

[Welsh Inferno]

2 more weeks waiting? No f*****g problem.

[DJBare]

Lozark wrote...

I don't foresee Yahtzee supporting us. He's both really vitriolic and pessimistic, and it'll probably be easier to rip into us than explain our position. He's not very fond of Bioware games in the first place, iirc.

He is a Mass Effect fan, thats why he got miffed over the ashes dlc.

[allyon]

I'm trying my best to stay strong, but the longer this goes on the worse it looks for them. Why cant they understand that. I really must get some sleep. I thank you guys and girls you all have been a safe harbor in this nightmare.
SSV Lexington is out for the night.
Will be back like I have been for the past 2 weeks.

[DifferentD17]

allyon wrote...

I'm trying my best to stay strong, but the longer this goes on the worse it looks for them. Why cant they understand that. I really must get some sleep. I thank you guys and girls you all have been a safe harbor in this nightmare.
SSV Lexington is out for the night.
Will be back like I have been for the past 2 weeks.

Get some rest.