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[xtorma]

[quote]crazyrabbits wrote...

[quote]Chassthemighty wrote...

Just curious, does it mention anywhere what happens to Miranda? Because it seems as if all your friends on the Normandy crew are boned in Paragon/destroy (and every other choice), but Shep still has a chance at surviving. And if he does, and Miranda's not on the Normandy.. I can still get happy end. Not sure if victory.. Anyone know what happens?[/quote]

Modifié par xtorma, 01 mars 2012 - 09:25 .

[Juniper Mucius]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, with contracts. They can't MAKE them continue writing Mass Effect titles. They can hire others sure, if they want. They have the rights to it..

You're not getting it.  They can't make them continue writing Mass Effect titles, sure.  That is, of course, if those writers don't want to have jobs anymore.  And if they do something that pisses off their entire fanbase, who would want to hire them after that?  No.  EA wants to make money off of Mass Effect, and will continue to want to make money off of Mass Effect.  So I highly doubt that EA would just let this be the end.  You can sit here and say "EA/BioWare just doesn't care about the fans!"  That may be true, but EA *does* care about money.  A dead franchise can't make money.  

Hence, we don't have all the context because EA wouldn't let the franchise just die like this.

[Chassthemighty]

crazyrabbits wrote...

Chassthemighty wrote...

Just curious, does it mention anywhere what happens to Miranda? Because it seems as if all your friends on the Normandy crew are boned in Paragon/destroy (and every other choice), but Shep still has a chance at surviving. And if he does, and Miranda's not on the Normandy.. I can still get happy end. Not sure if victory.. Anyone know what happens?

At one time, it was rumored that she was supposed to die in her side mission, but judging from the leaked script (which has Joker reporting cheerfully that Oriana was rescued from her father), it doesn't seem like she's going to die.

So she doesn't end up on the Normandy though right? And she apparently doesn't die? And I can make sure my Shepard doesn't die in the destroy end it seems - THERE IS YET HOPE FOR A HAPPY END FOR SHEPARD. I hope she's on earth (since Shep ends up there if he survives apparently), but even if not.. There's that Prothean cache on Mars, maybe we can reverse engineer the Mass Relays outta that..The Protheans managed it. THERE MIGHT YET BE VICTORY!

[Lanius993]

Obidex wrote...

NG + ending still awaiting verification?

NG + ending apparently doesn't exist

[T1l]

Can people stop uber-quoting? Hairy balls of the Gods. Why. All of my why. Stop.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

shimpt wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

shimpt wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

DaneWolf wrote...

Ah... Is it only ONE of the 7 endings people are ****ing about?!? Oh dear....

Three endings. One with two slight variations and one with three. The last one has no alternatives.

so the destruction of Earth, the death of Shep, and the DEATH, not the stranding, of the Normandy crew are "slight" (one ending possibilty was the Normandy hatch opening and no one coming out).....ummmm no.

Merging and controlling always result in the death of Shepard. Always. The crew is stranded regardless. What changes is whether or not you've merged them with synthetics/destroyed synthetics, who you were pals with, who survived etc.

If this was a murder investigation and this is all the evidence you brought to court you would be laughed out of the building 4 videos with no sound and no context and absolutly nothing on stranded normandy

Luckily this isn't a murder investigation and a discussion on a video game then hmm?

Be rational your argument is based on nothing this entire thread is pointless and I won't lie i got caught up in ti to then i took a step back and said WTF was i thinking

Well then I hope your right and that Xiosite didn't base several discussion threads on one big lie.

[Juniper Mucius]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Well then I hope your right and that Xiosite didn't base several discussion threads on one big lie.

Never count out the power of the troll.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

txgoldrush wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

• MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
  
  

  txgoldrush wrote...
  
  

  MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
  
  

  DaneWolf wrote...
  
  Ah... Is it only ONE of the 7 endings people are ****ing about?!? Oh dear....

  
  Three endings. One with two slight variations and one with three. The last one has no alternatives.
  
  

  
  so the destruction of Earth, the death of Shep, and the DEATH, not the stranding, of the Normandy crew are "slight" (one ending possibilty was the Normandy hatch opening and no one coming out).....ummmm no.
  
  

  
  Merging and controlling always result in the death of Shepard. Always. The crew is stranded regardless. What changes is whether or not you've merged them with synthetics/destroyed synthetics, who you were pals with, who survived etc.
  
  

  
  The Normandy Crew can all be killed too. 1. Normandy Hatch: the camera will focus on the hatch of the Normandy. It will open up and nobody will come out. 2. Joker + 2: the camera will focus on the hatch and it will open up. Joker will walk out of the Normandy, along with 2 henchmen. The 2 henchmen that will come out will be the ones that the player has the highest relationship rating with. This includes Cortez/Traynor if they were romanced. 3. Edi & Joker + 2: the camera will focus on the hatch and it will open up. Joker will walk out along with EDI. They are followed by two henchmen and again, these two henchmen will be determined by whoever the player has the highest relationship rating with. Everyone’s eyes will be glowing cause they’re now all partially synthetic. This will only fire if the Synergy option was taken.

[*]Hence "who survived".

Which means the endings are varied.

[*]Different showing up in a cut scene really is as varied as the emails you get in ME2.

[xtorma]

txgoldrush wrote...

xtorma wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

DaneWolf wrote...

Ah... Is it only ONE of the 7 endings people are ****ing about?!? Oh dear....

Three endings. One with two slight variations and one with three. The last one has no alternatives.

Erm....the gameplay in the demo is not that good. as a shooter this game is severly lacking. the only saving grace was the rpg element, which has been stripped from us.

Nevermind the fact that their ar emore customization options than ME2 fo rboth weapons and powers and nevermind the fact that choice actually matters the entire game for the FIRST time in a bioware game.

Yes choices matter.....until the end, when they mean absolutly nothing. come on dude. If i can play a game on insanity and not even sweat , its got problems as a shooter. As i said , the saving grace was the rpg element , which ends up severly limited and in the end...irrelevant.

If the spoilers are true.

[G3rman]

Chassthemighty wrote...

crazyrabbits wrote...

Chassthemighty wrote...

Just curious, does it mention anywhere what happens to Miranda? Because it seems as if all your friends on the Normandy crew are boned in Paragon/destroy (and every other choice), but Shep still has a chance at surviving. And if he does, and Miranda's not on the Normandy.. I can still get happy end. Not sure if victory.. Anyone know what happens?

At one time, it was rumored that she was supposed to die in her side mission, but judging from the leaked script (which has Joker reporting cheerfully that Oriana was rescued from her father), it doesn't seem like she's going to die.

So she doesn't end up on the Normandy though right? And she apparently doesn't die? And I can make sure my Shepard doesn't die in the destroy end it seems - THERE IS YET HOPE FOR A HAPPY END FOR SHEPARD. I hope she's on earth (since Shep ends up there if he survives apparently), but even if not.. There's that Prothean cache on Mars, maybe we can reverse engineer the Mass Relays outta that..The Protheans managed it. THERE MIGHT YET BE VICTORY!

There isn't any hope, the entire point of getting rid of the relays is to take the galaxy off of reaper tech and escape that particular tech singularity.  Building more relays would only defeat the entire purpose of the ending if you chose anything but merge.

Also do you have any idea how long it would take to research the relays, find the resources to build them, then deploy them?  You'd be better off wandering the galaxy trying to find the planet.

[txgoldrush]

Chassthemighty wrote...

crazyrabbits wrote...

Chassthemighty wrote...

Just curious, does it mention anywhere what happens to Miranda? Because it seems as if all your friends on the Normandy crew are boned in Paragon/destroy (and every other choice), but Shep still has a chance at surviving. And if he does, and Miranda's not on the Normandy.. I can still get happy end. Not sure if victory.. Anyone know what happens?

At one time, it was rumored that she was supposed to die in her side mission, but judging from the leaked script (which has Joker reporting cheerfully that Oriana was rescued from her father), it doesn't seem like she's going to die.

So she doesn't end up on the Normandy though right? And she apparently doesn't die? And I can make sure my Shepard doesn't die in the destroy end it seems - THERE IS YET HOPE FOR A HAPPY END FOR SHEPARD. I hope she's on earth (since Shep ends up there if he survives apparently), but even if not.. There's that Prothean cache on Mars, maybe we can reverse engineer the Mass Relays outta that..The Protheans managed it. THERE MIGHT YET BE VICTORY!

If I was the writer, you would have to choose between Miranda and Oriana.....with the one not chosen being fatally wounded and dying in Normandy's med bay.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 01 mars 2012 - 09:30 .

[Nordicus]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

And don't get me started on the DLC all them are perfectly written with a rich backstory ending in Lonesome Road,

Lonesome Road can't get enough love. The whole thing was just so glorious. So much backstory, so much devastation, such a charismatic antagonist

[wright1978]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

DaneWolf wrote...

Ah... Is it only ONE of the 7 endings people are ****ing about?!? Oh dear....

Three endings. One with two slight variations and one with three. The last one has no alternatives.

What really annoys me is that in a game about choice there's no choice regarding Relays or Normandy. Little practical difference between the endings beyond being different coloured light shows in reality.

[Sashimi_taco]

The Free Jaffa wrote...


Why?  My guess is we still don't know everything.  People seem to just want to complain without actually having played the game.  I'm called a lemming because I want context, but people are blindly following the words of people that have supposedly "played the game", "tested the game", or "extracted the files from the game".  Hell, if I didn't know any better, I'd say all of this is being done by BioWare devs just to troll the hell out of everyone.  Everyone believes this is going to happen, insults the devs, and then all of those people look like morons.

But hey, we won't know until after Tuesday, will we?

I agree with you, i'm having a hard time believing people. But is seems just real enough to be true. All i've wanted from this game from the start was at least a little bit of a happy ending. I don't care about the mass relays or anything. Just shepard finally getting the time to be with the people she cares about in the end without having to be worried about th end of all life. Just a moment where she goes, "finally" and her friends and her just sit down and breath. Just something, anything, where her life is not a tradgedy. 

[Yuqi]

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Eh I would be a hypocrite if I complained about the marketing.Unfortunatly alot of people these days lack the 'use theirown brain' function..Which of course keeps me makign money so meh..

Modifié par Yuqi, 01 mars 2012 - 09:32 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Well then I hope your right and that Xiosite didn't base several discussion threads on one big lie.

Never count out the power of the troll.

Does that user have a history of trolling? I don't keep track of those things.

[Maialeth]

DaneWolf wrote...

I love that endings are not allways happy and cheery... Because THATS LIFE!!! I killed of Jacob and green guy... The Assasin thingy in ME2 not only because they were borring but because if they all survived it would be to damn many smiles in a Sci-Fi story that would supposed to be dark!!!

cool story.

But that's just the point. YOU chose to kill off Jacob and Thane because YOU wanted to get an ending that wasn't sunshine and yay we all made it. That was YOUR CHOICE. And that is awesome Glad you got the ending you wanted, that you thought was best.  That's all we're asking for for ME3 is to give us a CHOICE to have a little more sweet with our bitter.

[Chassthemighty]

G3rman - It's a fair point, i'll just have to hope she's on Earth, or i'm pulling a Star Trek and venturing into the great unknown apparently. But only after I leave behind Shep-Babies, in case something like this happens again. Nothing ever gets done without the hero or the hero's family after all.

txgoldrush - You sure you don't work here?

But it seems as if there's hope for my Shep at least, and that makes me happy.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...


Why?  My guess is we still don't know everything.  People seem to just want to complain without actually having played the game.  I'm called a lemming because I want context, but people are blindly following the words of people that have supposedly "played the game", "tested the game", or "extracted the files from the game".  Hell, if I didn't know any better, I'd say all of this is being done by BioWare devs just to troll the hell out of everyone.  Everyone believes this is going to happen, insults the devs, and then all of those people look like morons.

But hey, we won't know until after Tuesday, will we?

I agree with you, i'm having a hard time believing people. But is seems just real enough to be true. All i've wanted from this game from the start was at least a little bit of a happy ending. I don't care about the mass relays or anything. Just shepard finally getting the time to be with the people she cares about in the end without having to be worried about th end of all life. Just a moment where she goes, "finally" and her friends and her just sit down and breath. Just something, anything, where her life is not a tradgedy. 

Yeah, poor Shepard really can't get a break.

[Juniper Mucius]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Does that user have a history of trolling? I don't keep track of those things.

Don't know the user.  But we don't know all the facts is all I'm saying.

[shimpt]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Well then I hope your right and that Xiosite didn't base several discussion threads on one big lie.

Never count out the power of the troll.

Does that user have a history of trolling? I don't keep track of those things.

You don't have to have history to troll the are an number of variables that could lead one to troll<_<

[Juniper Mucius]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I agree with you, i'm having a hard time believing people. But is seems just real enough to be true. All i've wanted from this game from the start was at least a little bit of a happy ending. I don't care about the mass relays or anything. Just shepard finally getting the time to be with the people she cares about in the end without having to be worried about th end of all life. Just a moment where she goes, "finally" and her friends and her just sit down and breath. Just something, anything, where her life is not a tradgedy. 

Yeah, poor Shepard really can't get a break.

Actually, these endings would be very Greek tragedy.  The story of the Tragic Hero.  Especially if you take the Colonist or Earthborn backgrounds.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

shimpt wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Well then I hope your right and that Xiosite didn't base several discussion threads on one big lie.

Never count out the power of the troll.

Does that user have a history of trolling? I don't keep track of those things.

You don't have to have history to troll the are an number of variables that could lead one to troll<_<

And if they aren't trolling...oh boy.

[txgoldrush]

xtorma wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

xtorma wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

DaneWolf wrote...

Ah... Is it only ONE of the 7 endings people are ****ing about?!? Oh dear....

Three endings. One with two slight variations and one with three. The last one has no alternatives.

Erm....the gameplay in the demo is not that good. as a shooter this game is severly lacking. the only saving grace was the rpg element, which has been stripped from us.

Nevermind the fact that their ar emore customization options than ME2 fo rboth weapons and powers and nevermind the fact that choice actually matters the entire game for the FIRST time in a bioware game.

Yes choices matter.....until the end, when they mean absolutly nothing. come on dude. If i can play a game on insanity and not even sweat , its got problems as a shooter. As i said , the saving grace was the rpg element , which ends up severly limited and in the end...irrelevant.

If the spoilers are true.

Your choices matter at the end...Sword and Hammer could fail badly resulting in Earth's destruction....

And where is the "RPG element" in older Bioware games like KOTOR, your choices rarely matter outside the end choice and the light side/dark side meter. Hell, in Jade Empire, posioning or killing the water dragon overrides all the choices you made before.....so really 95% of the game that came before didn't matter.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I agree with you, i'm having a hard time believing people. But is seems just real enough to be true. All i've wanted from this game from the start was at least a little bit of a happy ending. I don't care about the mass relays or anything. Just shepard finally getting the time to be with the people she cares about in the end without having to be worried about th end of all life. Just a moment where she goes, "finally" and her friends and her just sit down and breath. Just something, anything, where her life is not a tradgedy. 

Yeah, poor Shepard really can't get a break.

Actually, these endings would be very Greek tragedy.  The story of the Tragic Hero.  Especially if you take the Colonist or Earthborn backgrounds.

Yeah, but there should be one ending where you Arnold your way out of a situation.

Not like, Terminator 2, like Predator.