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[Alamandorious]

ld1449 wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I like Twilight *waits for the hate*

So yeah I would rather read them again than play ME3 again...at the moment anyway.

*Reels*

How dare you sir or maddamn.

*Not sure if should be praised for bravery or condemed for stupidity Really showing us the jugular there*

Mmmm...jugular...heh.  Couldn't sleep, so I popped in for a sec again...now popping out again.

This was your random 'I'm overtired' moment.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

ld1449 wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I like Twilight *waits for the hate*

So yeah I would rather read them again than play ME3 again...at the moment anyway.

*Reels*

How dare you sir or maddamn.

*Not sure if should be praised for bravery or condemed for stupidity Really showing us the jugular there*

Lol, hey I am used to the crap I get from people when I say I like Twilight, it doesn't bother me in the slightest because hey, everyone likes different things *shrug* 

[Talon_Wu]

Xyalon wrote...

I refuse to let this game spoil my entire game enjoyment paradigm. I have very little else in my life right now except games. With such a great series in my possession, I will not let the deformed brainchild of a late night scribblethon ruin what I have.

As was advertised at the very beginning of the series "Many decisions lie ahead, none of them easy." Well, we made those difficult decisions. If they had said "And in the end it won't really matter" then somehow I don't think this series would have sold nearly as well. If this was the plan from the word go, then the reason they never hinted at it was because they knew that it wouldn't sell. Instead we got hooked on the ideal of hope that spanned the first two series, and then when we would pay through the nose to get the ending we all thought was coming, they dropped down and gave us a punch that we will never forget.

What we have been given is a blow delivered below the belt. It is c.ock of the poppyest variety. If this is what was intended from the outset then not only have BioWare failed us, they have failed themselves. And if it was a last minute decision instead during the final installment of the trilogy then the result is still exactly the same. Whether you see it as betraying the fans, or selling out the series, this was cheap. It looks cheap, it feels cheap and it plays cheap. If it were a West End Musical it wouldn't last a week.

So I am retaking Mass Effect. I am retaking my wasted hours and putting them back to good use. Everything I stood for and fought for with my Shepards has had meaning. Every choice has had an effect. Every action has had a purpose. I am taking this series out of their hands and putting it back into my own, where it will be treated with the reverence it deserves. I defy BioWare, and I deny that abortion of an ending that they have force-fed us like geese.

Mass Effect is mine. Mass Effect is yours. It is ours, but it is no longer theirs. It ceased to belong to them when we fell in love with it and made it our own in our minds. That is the Mass Effect that they can never take away from you. Your journey with your team mates is real, and it mattered. You saved the galaxy from countless threats and don't let them fool you otherwise. Everything you did had a result, it helped shape you as you shaped the story we all lived together, but on our own.

Mass Effect does not stop here, and it will never stop here. I will not let them take it from me. I and my Shepard stand side by side. There is always another way and nothing that they can say can make us believe otherwise. I am going back to the source, and I am going to take back the joy which kept me going for the past four years. If I cannot do this then I will have let them ruin it for me, I will have given up and I will have abandoned my Shepard just as badly as they have.

This is why I am here. This is why I hold the line. And I'm damned if I'm moving until I've got some answers.

This...is magnificent. Thank you.

Every day I hope to hear something, every day there is nothing. I still hold out hope that Bioware will adjust / add to the ending, but after two weeks, I confess to becoming more cynical. I probably would have been on a third playthrough by now, or have started the epic back-to-back playthrough of the whole series, which I had originally planned. Instead, I've developed a tremendous apathy toward what had been my favourite game, and my favourite game studio. Bioware gave us the tools, the building blocks, to let us create our Shepards, to let the universe live and to react to our actions. Then they took our control, our choices, our Shepards, away at the last second for the sake of ...what? I can't conceive of what made anyone at Bioware think that this was a good idea, or that we, as consumers, would blindly accept it.

So, I am also taking my Shepard back. Her story belongs to me, and both she and I deserve better than what was offered after five years of loyalty. If Bioware fixes the ending, gives us something coherent, with the choices that were promised, my loyalty will continue, though there will be less blind trust on my part. If they do not, then my Shepard will write her own ending, as it should be. And I'm sorry to say that Bioware will likely be dead to me.

Holding the line.

[LethesDeep]

unclee wrote...

Wowlock wrote...

2 weeks is nothing ! Besides, we lose nothing ( aside from interest ) while waiting for a fix. But Bioware lose sales with every passing day while they stay silent....

I guess one day I will open the forums and will see an official thread that will either say '' well we won't be fixing things, be on your way ''' or '' We started working on it''

I just hope it will be the latter...

That's just it: they're hoping we lose interest and let this blow over in the mean time.

This thread has slown down significantly since the week of ME3's release. I haven't been outside of this thread much, so my question to everyone who has: is this thread slowing down because people ARE losing interest/letting this blow over? Or are they just branching out into other threads?

No if you move out into the Spoilers section we've got more prople starting threads on why the endings suck. Analyses, opinions, possible solutions, that kind of stuff. Plus the official Suggestions Thread is moving at a pretty steady pace.

But really, we've said practically everything we can about the ending, both good and bad. The next step is having BioWare open up a dialogue with us, but they don't want to. Thus, it seems like everything is slowing down. We've said our piece and are waiting patiently on the couch, while BioWare is humming and watching TV in the hope we'll all go away.

[Computim]

xHezz90 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I like Twilight *waits for the hate*

So yeah I would rather read them again than play ME3 again...at the moment anyway.

*Reels*

How dare you sir or maddamn.

*Not sure if should be praised for bravery or condemed for stupidity Really showing us the jugular there*

Lol, hey I am used to the crap I get from people when I say I like Twilight, it doesn't bother me in the slightest because hey, everyone likes different things *shrug* 

Hey I support Twilight fans who dislike the ending of ME3... I mean come on, if you liked twilight and hate the ending of ME3 it MUST be bad *ducks laughing* I jest

Modifié par Computim, 21 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[Missy_MI]

Teacher50 wrote...
Yes, just another hugh plot hole. Do ya'll remember what the reaper said in his dying moments?

I'll bite, what did it say again?

Also to whoever upthread was wondering why BioWare chose to use the kid as a symbol of everyone Shepard can't save instead of the dead Ashley or Kaiden... I have no idea.  Holy crap, they already had those voice actors in studio, why not milk that for all it was worth?

I would have been way more emotionally impacted with Ash as the main focus of those nightmares rather than ghost boy. 

Ah well... it was still a great way to show the mental impact of everything weighing on Shepard.  I guess that's the one good thing about the endings.  There might just be enough WTF material to continue discussing them for two more weeks until we get an answer one way or the other.

[Generic Name]

I think I'd rather witness the end of ME3 then read Twilight.

Actually... hand me a book.

mortarnpistol.com/2012/03/20/retake-mass-effect-jsixgun-answers-the-critics/

^ was a good read.

[TamiBx]

xHezz90 wrote...

I like Twilight *waits for the hate*

So yeah I would rather read them again than play ME3 again...at the moment anyway.

I liked it when I read the first one, which was way before the whole hype about it. Then...well, yeah. 

[RatedRRachel]

unclee wrote...

Wanna know the worst part about this whole thing for me? I *want* to replay ME3 again, but I can't bring myself to do it with the ending. I've tried 3 times to turn my 360 on an play but every time I was completely de-motivated because I remembered the endings.

Then last night I tried playing ME1. Got to the title screen and just turned it off. The ending to ME3 has completely wrecked the entire trilogy for me.

It's reasons like this that we can't let this go away.

Same thing happened to me. I had another Shepard I was going to play, but I needed to finish up some of the DLC from 2. I figured maybe I could play through LotSB and Arrival without problems. Got to the title screen, pulled up my character, but then couldn't bring myself to do it. No drive to finish it and play again knowing that no matter I do, it doesn't matter. I will get the same RGB endings as the first time. 

[Brentatious]

ld1449 wrote...

Go get a drink, wind yourself down and come back to the line. Or I send Commisar Yarrick and Chaplain Grimaldus to find you.

In all seriousness though, don't let this consume you. You need to balance real world things with the Line just like you need to do with your gaming time.

Don't burn yourself out, but don't forget about the line either

Please Commisar Yarrick couldn't be bothered to get out of bed for anything short of an Ork invasion.
But man oh man could that guy Hold the Line.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

RatedRRachel wrote...

Same thing happened to me. I had another Shepard I was going to play, but I needed to finish up some of the DLC from 2. I figured maybe I could play through LotSB and Arrival without problems. Got to the title screen, pulled up my character, but then couldn't bring myself to do it. No drive to finish it and play again knowing that no matter I do, it doesn't matter. I will get the same RGB endings as the first time. 

I have a vanguard character  I wanted to transfer over to ME3 but I need to finish that game and I just can't do it and I don't see the point until they fix the ending.

[Ampmaster]

Generic Name wrote...

I think I'd rather witness the end of ME3 then read Twilight.

Actually... hand me a book.

mortarnpistol.com/2012/03/20/retake-mass-effect-jsixgun-answers-the-critics/

^ was a good read.

I'd rather jam forks into my eyes then use them to read Twilight, ME3's ending is horrible and a knife in the back but it is not quite fork jamming territory

[Luceres]

unclee wrote...

Wanna know the worst part about this whole thing for me? I *want* to replay ME3 again, but I can't bring myself to do it with the ending. I've tried 3 times to turn my 360 on an play but every time I was completely de-motivated because I remembered the endings.

Then last night I tried playing ME1. Got to the title screen and just turned it off. The ending to ME3 has completely wrecked the entire trilogy for me.

It's reasons like this that we can't let this go away.

Agreed. They took years of work, and the three greatest games I've ever played, and ruined them in a single 10-minute swipe. 

[Word_Bearer]

Brentatious wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Go get a drink, wind yourself down and come back to the line. Or I send Commisar Yarrick and Chaplain Grimaldus to find you.

In all seriousness though, don't let this consume you. You need to balance real world things with the Line just like you need to do with your gaming time.

Don't burn yourself out, but don't forget about the line either

Please Commisar Yarrick couldn't be bothered to get out of bed for anything short of an Ork invasion.
But man oh man could that guy Hold the Line.

Pretty sure you don't need the Emperor's Warriors for this one; too nice. Only the raw anger and bitterness of us Chaos worshipers can do this. Send in the World Eaters. And the Night Lords. We'll give Bioware a reason to change the end!

[kewnsty]

note to bioware if your watching and do an epliogue.. i want laira / or LI on a beach with sheperds baby/ kid. the li says to the kid. the kid picks up a sea shell and either sheperd or the LI says. lets go test it huney. beautiful moment right there!
mordin tie in

[G Kevin]

Alright guys, I am trying to contact the newspaper for my university called Oracle and I have an e-mail ready to send, however I would like someone to proof read it for me. PM me if you are willing to do so.

I would also try to contact the radio station broadcasted from my university and see if they are willing to mention our movement.

Hoping to hear from you guys and Holding the line!

Modifié par G Kevin, 21 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[SilverOnemi]

going to bed! hold the line in my absence

[PhoenixDove1]

only trolled today, signing off for the night, until tomorrow.

Hold the line. I'd be curious to know which forums Bioware is reading to collect the 'data'. ah well. night

[Debi-Tage]

Just an observation, if someone would have told me a year ago that a week after I had first completed ME3 I would still have not mustered the strength for a second playthrough and would have spent more time camping on these boards I would never have believed them... :/

[ld1449]

Brentatious wrote...

Please Commisar Yarrick couldn't be bothered to get out of bed for anything short of an Ork invasion.
But man oh man could that guy Hold the Line.

.......What if Bioware is hiring Yarick right now???

We are kinda like the hordes of Ghraskull Thraka bearing down on Armageddon (Bioware) right now. Though we are much more eloquent and have tea.

*Hears* We will not be releasing a DLC to fix the ending of ME3

*Nerd rage* WAAAAAAAAGGHHHH!!!!! *Picks up Choppa and Dakka!!!*

[Computim]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Just an observation, if someone would have told me a year ago that a week after I had first completed ME3 I would still have not mustered the strength for a second playthrough and would have spent more time camping on these boards I would never have believed them... :/

Same... I was one of those people that all the others hate because I basically sat there screaming "BIOWARE TAKE MY MONEY"... not anymore.. scary to see how 10 minutes and a bunch of ill-advised twitter posts can burn through 10+ years of goodwill and reputation :\\

[RussianOrc]

any news the last 4h?

[ld1449]

Word_Bearer wrote...

Pretty sure you don't need the Emperor's Warriors for this one; too nice. Only the raw anger and bitterness of us Chaos worshipers can do this. Send in the World Eaters. And the Night Lords. We'll give Bioware a reason to change the end!

I bet this ending was all the Eldars doing....Damn you Eldrad

[Mythandariel]

Missy_MI wrote...

Teacher50 wrote...
Yes, just another hugh plot hole. Do ya'll remember what the reaper said in his dying moments?

I'll bite, what did it say again?

Also to whoever upthread was wondering why BioWare chose to use the kid as a symbol of everyone Shepard can't save instead of the dead Ashley or Kaiden... I have no idea.  Holy crap, they already had those voice actors in studio, why not milk that for all it was worth?

I would have been way more emotionally impacted with Ash as the main focus of those nightmares rather than ghost boy. 

Ah well... it was still a great way to show the mental impact of everything weighing on Shepard.  I guess that's the one good thing about the endings.  There might just be enough WTF material to continue discussing them for two more weeks until we get an answer one way or the other.

Or if some of your crew died in the Suicide Mission, have them in the dreams. Especially if your LI died. That would definately be a head-screw for Shepard.

[TamiBx]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Just an observation, if someone would have told me a year ago that a week after I had first completed ME3 I would still have not mustered the strength for a second playthrough and would have spent more time camping on these boards I would never have believed them... :/

If they had told me that the day before I got the game, I would have laughed at them. 

Btw, I'm writing a research paper here and every single website I go to has a ME3 ad on the side...