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Wow i just watched those silent vids a few pages back and it just makes me want to facepalm.. lots

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, with contracts. They can't MAKE them continue writing Mass Effect titles. They can hire others sure, if they want. They have the rights to it..


You're not getting it.  They can't make them continue writing Mass Effect titles, sure.  That is, of course, if those writers don't want to have jobs anymore.  And if they do something that pisses off their entire fanbase, who would want to hire them after that?  No.  EA wants to make money off of Mass Effect, and will continue to want to make money off of Mass Effect.  So I highly doubt that EA would just let this be the end.  You can sit here and say "EA/BioWare just doesn't care about the fans!"  That may be true, but EA *does* care about money.  A dead franchise can't make money.  

Hence, we don't have all the context because EA wouldn't let the franchise just die like this.


But this is the end of Sheperds journey. It would be pathetic if EA purposely gets the crew stranded so they can use those characters again without Sheperd. Only they will find themselves at odds with many angry fans who will be furious if the Squaddies, that could have died, return and act like they never met Sheperd or don't even mention them even if they were a possible LI.

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this is the final possible, one of the best ever made, i love and hate this final, always makes me cry star looking at 3min


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Having had a night to sleep over the possibility of these endings being all we get, I came to the following conclusion for myself. When I get to the ending I will be:

1) Incredibly shocked, and stare at the ending credits for a while in disbelief.
2) Possibly cry a little.
3) Be mad at BioWare for not giving me the ending I dreamed of
4) Eventually realize that it was a fittingly epic conclusion to a great story.

5) Remain sad that it's not the ending of my choice.

All in all, I'll probably be mostly positive. But BioWare and I need to have a chat about what "choice" means. :P

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

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Actually, these endings would be very Greek tragedy.  The story of the Tragic Hero.  Especially if you take the Colonist or Earthborn backgrounds.


Yeah, but there should be one ending where you Arnold your way out of a situation.

Not like, Terminator 2, like Predator.


Actually, I wish they did have a really nice ending.  One ending where you save everyone, the relays are intact.  Earth is saved.  Everything is rainbows and butterflies.  Except Shepard is dead.  And not comic book dead like Mass Effect 2.  *Dead*.

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, with contracts. They can't MAKE them continue writing Mass Effect titles. They can hire others sure, if they want. They have the rights to it..


You're not getting it.  They can't make them continue writing Mass Effect titles, sure.  That is, of course, if those writers don't want to have jobs anymore.  And if they do something that pisses off their entire fanbase, who would want to hire them after that?  No.  EA wants to make money off of Mass Effect, and will continue to want to make money off of Mass Effect.  So I highly doubt that EA would just let this be the end.  You can sit here and say "EA/BioWare just doesn't care about the fans!"  That may be true, but EA *does* care about money.  A dead franchise can't make money.  

Hence, we don't have all the context because EA wouldn't let the franchise just die like this.


Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.

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Don't feel bad.

Doesn't look like you can get the dialogue or romance you want either.

Good times.

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Elite Midget wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, with contracts. They can't MAKE them continue writing Mass Effect titles. They can hire others sure, if they want. They have the rights to it..


You're not getting it.  They can't make them continue writing Mass Effect titles, sure.  That is, of course, if those writers don't want to have jobs anymore.  And if they do something that pisses off their entire fanbase, who would want to hire them after that?  No.  EA wants to make money off of Mass Effect, and will continue to want to make money off of Mass Effect.  So I highly doubt that EA would just let this be the end.  You can sit here and say "EA/BioWare just doesn't care about the fans!"  That may be true, but EA *does* care about money.  A dead franchise can't make money.  

Hence, we don't have all the context because EA wouldn't let the franchise just die like this.


But this is the end of Sheperds journey. It would be pathetic if EA purposely gets the crew stranded so they can use those characters again without Sheperd. Only they will find themselves at odds with many angry fans who will be furious if the Squaddies, that could have died, return and act like they never met Sheperd or don't even mention them even if they were a possible LI.


End of Shepard's journey != end of Mass Effect.  They've said that since before Mass Effect 2 came out.

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Since I lost a lot of pages (sleep and all), did anyone answer what happens with 100% readiness for sure?
Can the Normandy not get sucked in space bathub sink?

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Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Since I lost a lot of pages (sleep and all), did anyone answer what happens with 100% readiness for sure?
Can the Normandy not get sucked in space bathub sink?


Considering that is a forced plot device for the setting of ME4 or DA3 (Can't decide which one is more deliciously controversial), its safe to say it happens in every ending no matter the level of readiness.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, with contracts. They can't MAKE them continue writing Mass Effect titles. They can hire others sure, if they want. They have the rights to it..


You're not getting it.  They can't make them continue writing Mass Effect titles, sure.  That is, of course, if those writers don't want to have jobs anymore.  And if they do something that pisses off their entire fanbase, who would want to hire them after that?  No.  EA wants to make money off of Mass Effect, and will continue to want to make money off of Mass Effect.  So I highly doubt that EA would just let this be the end.  You can sit here and say "EA/BioWare just doesn't care about the fans!"  That may be true, but EA *does* care about money.  A dead franchise can't make money.  

Hence, we don't have all the context because EA wouldn't let the franchise just die like this.


Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.


They have Ultima too.....which they gave to Bioware.

And really of EA was so evil, they would not have allowed fans to remake Ultima V and VI.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 01 mars 2012 - 09:43 .


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Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Since I lost a lot of pages (sleep and all), did anyone answer what happens with 100% readiness for sure?
Can the Normandy not get sucked in space bathub sink?


No, but I think that we can chalk it up to Joker being a terrible pilot.

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I... if this all ends up to be true... I feel really sick.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.


You really don't understand corporations, do you?  They are money-making machines.  I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact.  It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more.  WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world.  But they'd make slightly less money.  Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money."  Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"

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Lol, does a Colonist/ Sole Survivor really expect anything other than an ending in which only he survives? I'm guessing the end sequence doesn't even make him blink.

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.


You really don't understand corporations, do you?  They are money-making machines.  I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact.  It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more.  WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world.  But they'd make slightly less money.  Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money."  Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"


http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games

Now, tell me EA still needs Mass Effect, or heck, Bioware. They'd cut the fat if they need to. And apparently they work their employees to death so hey, maybe the writters would welcome the break.

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dw99027 wrote...

Lol, does a Colonist/ Sole Survivor really expect anything other than an ending in which only he survives? I'm guessing the end sequence doesn't even make him blink.


The game ends with shepard saying "story of my life" sigh and walk away fade in and done

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Obidex wrote...

NG + ending still awaiting verification?


Pretty sure I read in the Prima guide there is one.

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I agree with you, i'm having a hard time believing people. But is seems just real enough to be true. All i've wanted from this game from the start was at least a little bit of a happy ending. I don't care about the mass relays or anything. Just shepard finally getting the time to be with the people she cares about in the end without having to be worried about th end of all life. Just a moment where she goes, "finally" and her friends and her just sit down and breath. Just something, anything, where her life is not a tradgedy. 


Yeah, poor Shepard really can't get a break.


Actually, these endings would be very Greek tragedy.  The story of the Tragic Hero.  Especially if you take the Colonist or Earthborn backgrounds.


You know where I get my fill of tradgedy and sad endings? My life. It sounds dramatic but it is true. I'm in recovery for an eating disorder and other things so I go to group therapy where is hear the MOST HORRIFIC AND HORRIBLE THINGS I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY ENTIRE LIFE AND EVER WILL HEAR! NOTHING COULD EVER BE ANY WORSE THAN THE THINGS I HEAR IN THOSE ROOMS! THE DEPTHS OF HUMAN DEPRAVITY THAT HAVE BEEN UNLEASHED ONTO THE POOR WOMEN I LISTEN TO IS BEYOND ALL THOUGHT AND REASON.

So when i play mass effect i like to play the "Lahdee dahhh, i can fix anything and anyone despte my horrible background and struggles. Despite a horrible thing happening, i can still be rewarded with a full and happy life at the end if i work hard enough" But noooo we have to be realistic for ALL the endings, by screwing you over and not letting you be happy. 

I still don't believe the endings, but i do believe them. I just have no accepted them to be true because we were promised through development we would get our "golden ending" and happy endings with our LIs. I do not think casey hudson would purposely mislead everyone. 

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.


You really don't understand corporations, do you?  They are money-making machines.  I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact.  It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more.  WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world.  But they'd make slightly less money.  Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money."  Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"


http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games

Now, tell me EA still needs Mass Effect, or heck, Bioware. They'd cut the fat if they need to. And apparently they work their employees to death so hey, maybe the writters would welcome the break.


Still not getting it is all about the money if mass effect is in the black that goose will keep laying them eggs

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DCYNIGR8 wrote...

Obidex wrote...

NG + ending still awaiting verification?


Pretty sure I read in the Prima guide there is one.


Somebody finished NG+.

Nothing changed.

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G3rman wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Since I lost a lot of pages (sleep and all), did anyone answer what happens with 100% readiness for sure?
Can the Normandy not get sucked in space bathub sink?


Considering that is a forced plot device for the setting of ME4 or DA3 (Can't decide which one is more deliciously controversial), its safe to say it happens in every ending no matter the level of readiness.


So we still don't know for certain, right?

Are the "endings" being posted on youtube the bink videos again?

I want in-game cutscenes of 100% readiness / full war assets. Posted Image

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shimpt wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.


You really don't understand corporations, do you?  They are money-making machines.  I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact.  It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more.  WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world.  But they'd make slightly less money.  Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money."  Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"


http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games

Now, tell me EA still needs Mass Effect, or heck, Bioware. They'd cut the fat if they need to. And apparently they work their employees to death so hey, maybe the writters would welcome the break.


Still not getting it is all about the money if mass effect is in the black that goose will keep laying them eggs


Sure, but not if it's too much trouble. It's far easier to pop out a new NBA Live every year with the new rosters. And those are guranteed to sell.

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

So when i play mass effect i like to play the "Lahdee dahhh, i can fix anything and anyone despte my horrible background and struggles. Despite a horrible thing happening, i can still be rewarded with a full and happy life at the end if i work hard enough" But noooo we have to be realistic for ALL the endings, by screwing you over and not letting you be happy. 


I have something for that.

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Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

G3rman wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Since I lost a lot of pages (sleep and all), did anyone answer what happens with 100% readiness for sure?
Can the Normandy not get sucked in space bathub sink?


Considering that is a forced plot device for the setting of ME4 or DA3 (Can't decide which one is more deliciously controversial), its safe to say it happens in every ending no matter the level of readiness.


So we still don't know for certain, right?

Are the "endings" being posted on youtube the bink videos again?

I want in-game cutscenes of 100% readiness / full war assets. Posted Image


Just mark my words..mark my words..