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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games
Now, tell me EA still needs Mass Effect, or heck, Bioware. They'd cut the fat if they need to. And apparently they work their employees to death so hey, maybe the writters would welcome the break.
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
Sashimi_taco wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sashimi_taco wrote...
I agree with you, i'm having a hard time believing people. But is seems just real enough to be true. All i've wanted from this game from the start was at least a little bit of a happy ending. I don't care about the mass relays or anything. Just shepard finally getting the time to be with the people she cares about in the end without having to be worried about th end of all life. Just a moment where she goes, "finally" and her friends and her just sit down and breath. Just something, anything, where her life is not a tradgedy.
Yeah, poor Shepard really can't get a break.
Actually, these endings would be very Greek tragedy. The story of the Tragic Hero. Especially if you take the Colonist or Earthborn backgrounds.
You know where I get my fill of tradgedy and sad endings? My life. It sounds dramatic but it is true. I'm in recovery for an eating disorder and other things so I go to group therapy where is hear the MOST HORRIFIC AND HORRIBLE THINGS I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY ENTIRE LIFE AND EVER WILL HEAR! NOTHING COULD EVER BE ANY WORSE THAN THE THINGS I HEAR IN THOSE ROOMS! THE DEPTHS OF HUMAN DEPRAVITY THAT HAVE BEEN UNLEASHED ONTO THE POOR WOMEN I LISTEN TO IS BEYOND ALL THOUGHT AND REASON.
So when i play mass effect i like to play the "Lahdee dahhh, i can fix anything and anyone despte my horrible background and struggles. Despite a horrible thing happening, i can still be rewarded with a full and happy life at the end if i work hard enough" But noooo we have to be realistic for ALL the endings, by screwing you over and not letting you be happy.
I still don't believe the endings, but i do believe them. I just have no accepted them to be true because we were promised through development we would get our "golden ending" and happy endings with our LIs. I do not think casey hudson would purposely mislead everyone.
G3rman wrote...
Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...
G3rman wrote...
Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...
Since I lost a lot of pages (sleep and all), did anyone answer what happens with 100% readiness for sure?
Can the Normandy not get sucked in space bathub sink?
Considering that is a forced plot device for the setting of ME4 or DA3 (Can't decide which one is more deliciously controversial), its safe to say it happens in every ending no matter the level of readiness.
So we still don't know for certain, right?
Are the "endings" being posted on youtube the bink videos again?
I want in-game cutscenes of 100% readiness / full war assets.
Just mark my words..mark my words..
xtorma wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
that is the most simplified explaination of anything i have ever read. It's like saying....food tastes good.
The Free Jaffa wrote...
xtorma wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
that is the most simplified explaination of anything i have ever read. It's like saying....food tastes good.
Of course its simplified. Do I need to write a frelling essay about the behavior of corporations? No. Simple sometimes gets the point across.
Corporations: Money good. No money bad.
Mass Effect Franchise: Make money. Corporations like.
A Dead Mass Effect Franchise: Make no money. Bad! Corporations hate!
The Free Jaffa wrote...
Sashimi_taco wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sashimi_taco wrote...
I agree with you, i'm having a hard time believing people. But is seems just real enough to be true. All i've wanted from this game from the start was at least a little bit of a happy ending. I don't care about the mass relays or anything. Just shepard finally getting the time to be with the people she cares about in the end without having to be worried about th end of all life. Just a moment where she goes, "finally" and her friends and her just sit down and breath. Just something, anything, where her life is not a tradgedy.
Yeah, poor Shepard really can't get a break.
Actually, these endings would be very Greek tragedy. The story of the Tragic Hero. Especially if you take the Colonist or Earthborn backgrounds.
You know where I get my fill of tradgedy and sad endings? My life. It sounds dramatic but it is true. I'm in recovery for an eating disorder and other things so I go to group therapy where is hear the MOST HORRIFIC AND HORRIBLE THINGS I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY ENTIRE LIFE AND EVER WILL HEAR! NOTHING COULD EVER BE ANY WORSE THAN THE THINGS I HEAR IN THOSE ROOMS! THE DEPTHS OF HUMAN DEPRAVITY THAT HAVE BEEN UNLEASHED ONTO THE POOR WOMEN I LISTEN TO IS BEYOND ALL THOUGHT AND REASON.
So when i play mass effect i like to play the "Lahdee dahhh, i can fix anything and anyone despte my horrible background and struggles. Despite a horrible thing happening, i can still be rewarded with a full and happy life at the end if i work hard enough" But noooo we have to be realistic for ALL the endings, by screwing you over and not letting you be happy.
I still don't believe the endings, but i do believe them. I just have no accepted them to be true because we were promised through development we would get our "golden ending" and happy endings with our LIs. I do not think casey hudson would purposely mislead everyone.
Uh...okay...
xtorma wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
Sashimi_taco wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sashimi_taco wrote...
I agree with you, i'm having a hard time believing people. But is seems just real enough to be true. All i've wanted from this game from the start was at least a little bit of a happy ending. I don't care about the mass relays or anything. Just shepard finally getting the time to be with the people she cares about in the end without having to be worried about th end of all life. Just a moment where she goes, "finally" and her friends and her just sit down and breath. Just something, anything, where her life is not a tradgedy.
Yeah, poor Shepard really can't get a break.
Actually, these endings would be very Greek tragedy. The story of the Tragic Hero. Especially if you take the Colonist or Earthborn backgrounds.
You know where I get my fill of tradgedy and sad endings? My life. It sounds dramatic but it is true. I'm in recovery for an eating disorder and other things so I go to group therapy where is hear the MOST HORRIFIC AND HORRIBLE THINGS I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY ENTIRE LIFE AND EVER WILL HEAR! NOTHING COULD EVER BE ANY WORSE THAN THE THINGS I HEAR IN THOSE ROOMS! THE DEPTHS OF HUMAN DEPRAVITY THAT HAVE BEEN UNLEASHED ONTO THE POOR WOMEN I LISTEN TO IS BEYOND ALL THOUGHT AND REASON.
So when i play mass effect i like to play the "Lahdee dahhh, i can fix anything and anyone despte my horrible background and struggles. Despite a horrible thing happening, i can still be rewarded with a full and happy life at the end if i work hard enough" But noooo we have to be realistic for ALL the endings, by screwing you over and not letting you be happy.
I still don't believe the endings, but i do believe them. I just have no accepted them to be true because we were promised through development we would get our "golden ending" and happy endings with our LIs. I do not think casey hudson would purposely mislead everyone.
Uh...okay...
you don't believe the endings....but you do believe them? ok you are way smarter than i am. Because this is just way confussing
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games
Now, tell me EA still needs Mass Effect, or heck, Bioware. They'd cut the fat if they need to. And apparently they work their employees to death so hey, maybe the writters would welcome the break.
By the gods. Are you paying attention? Mass Effect makes EA money. They would not let the Mass Effect franchise just die if they know it's a money maker. I understand how profitable EA is, and how many games they have. You're not frelling getting it. Corporations don't need everything they have. They don't need to do everything they do. But if it makes them money, they will keep doing it. They would not allow BioWare to kill the Mass Effect franchise, because that would be killing a source of income. EA execs get money from sales. If they kill off a money maker like Mass Effect, that means they make less money. Do you think the Koch Brothers need over 50 billion dollars combined? Guess what? They're lobbying the government to lower their taxes to make even more money. The combined wealth of the Walton familiy is the same as the bottom 30% of the America. They are also lobbying to lower their taxes.
So no. It doesn't matter if EA execs could still be millionaires without Mass Effect, they still wouldn't kill it. They may want to use that money to make new games, as well as give themselves nice hefty bonsues. Seriously.
Corporation.
Modifié par MelfinaofOutlawStar, 01 mars 2012 - 10:01 .
Lmao.Icinix wrote...
Don't feel bad.
Doesn't look like you can get the dialogue or romance you want either.
Good times.
shimpt wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
xtorma wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
that is the most simplified explaination of anything i have ever read. It's like saying....food tastes good.
Of course its simplified. Do I need to write a frelling essay about the behavior of corporations? No. Simple sometimes gets the point across.
Corporations: Money good. No money bad.
Mass Effect Franchise: Make money. Corporations like.
A Dead Mass Effect Franchise: Make no money. Bad! Corporations hate!
Way to boil it down
The Free Jaffa wrote...
xtorma wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
that is the most simplified explaination of anything i have ever read. It's like saying....food tastes good.
Of course its simplified. Do I need to write a frelling essay about the behavior of corporations? No. Simple sometimes gets the point across.
Corporations: Money good. No money bad.
Mass Effect Franchise: Make money. Corporations like.
A Dead Mass Effect Franchise: Make no money. Bad! Corporations hate!
Modifié par xtorma, 01 mars 2012 - 10:05 .
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games
Now, tell me EA still needs Mass Effect, or heck, Bioware. They'd cut the fat if they need to. And apparently they work their employees to death so hey, maybe the writters would welcome the break.
By the gods. Are you paying attention? Mass Effect makes EA money. They would not let the Mass Effect franchise just die if they know it's a money maker. I understand how profitable EA is, and how many games they have. You're not frelling getting it. Corporations don't need everything they have. They don't need to do everything they do. But if it makes them money, they will keep doing it. They would not allow BioWare to kill the Mass Effect franchise, because that would be killing a source of income. EA execs get money from sales. If they kill off a money maker like Mass Effect, that means they make less money. Do you think the Koch Brothers need over 50 billion dollars combined? Guess what? They're lobbying the government to lower their taxes to make even more money. The combined wealth of the Walton familiy is the same as the bottom 30% of the America. They are also lobbying to lower their taxes.
So no. It doesn't matter if EA execs could still be millionaires without Mass Effect, they still wouldn't kill it. They may want to use that money to make new games, as well as give themselves nice hefty bonsues. Seriously.
Corporation.
Yes, it makes money. That's clear. What comes into play is whether the cost of the development, production, staff, marketing etc. is worth the end result. They can and will simply stop a series if they feel it is not up to their standard, or keeping with their companies interests. Just because "it makes money" doesn't mean they will continue to bully the creators into coming out with more titles. That almost never results in a polished finished product. Particularly when you drive down morale and run creativity dry. Corporations like money, they like to make it but there are many other variables to consider in making money. You're oversimplifying it.
xtorma wrote...
No, but if you want to berate people for their ignorence on how corporations work, you need to add a little bit more than.....uggg money good, no money bad.....(scratch armpit)
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
The Free Jaffa wrote...
MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Sure they can let it die. You realize how many franchises they own? They have the Sims, the fecking Sims! Not to mention all the sports games. Really, they're not hurting for one bastard child of an action RPG.
You really don't understand corporations, do you? They are money-making machines. I'm not bashing corporations, I'm saying fact. It doesn't matter if they don't need the Mass Effect franchise to make plenty of money, but with the Mass Effect franchise, they can make even more. WalMart could afford to pay all of their employees $10 an hour and still be the most profitable super-market in the world. But they'd make slightly less money. Corporations don't think, "we don't need this because we already have enough money." Corporations think, "what makes us money, and how can we use it to make even more money?"
http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games
Now, tell me EA still needs Mass Effect, or heck, Bioware. They'd cut the fat if they need to. And apparently they work their employees to death so hey, maybe the writters would welcome the break.
By the gods. Are you paying attention? Mass Effect makes EA money. They would not let the Mass Effect franchise just die if they know it's a money maker. I understand how profitable EA is, and how many games they have. You're not frelling getting it. Corporations don't need everything they have. They don't need to do everything they do. But if it makes them money, they will keep doing it. They would not allow BioWare to kill the Mass Effect franchise, because that would be killing a source of income. EA execs get money from sales. If they kill off a money maker like Mass Effect, that means they make less money. Do you think the Koch Brothers need over 50 billion dollars combined? Guess what? They're lobbying the government to lower their taxes to make even more money. The combined wealth of the Walton familiy is the same as the bottom 30% of the America. They are also lobbying to lower their taxes.
So no. It doesn't matter if EA execs could still be millionaires without Mass Effect, they still wouldn't kill it. They may want to use that money to make new games, as well as give themselves nice hefty bonsues. Seriously.
Corporation.
Yes, it makes money. That's clear. What comes into play is whether the cost of the development, production, staff, marketing etc. is worth the end result. They can and will simply stop a series if they feel it is not up to their standard, or keeping with their companies interests. Just because "it makes money" doesn't mean they will continue to bully the creators into coming out with more titles. That almost never results in a polished finished product. Particularly when you drive down morale and run creativity dry. Corporations like money, they like to make it but there are many other variables to consider in making money. You're oversimplifying it.
I'm not oversimplifying it, you're not frelling getting it. Mass Effect, thus far, has been a money maker. EA is marketing like hell to make even more money off of it. You think they're going to do that for a dead franchise? Hell no. They have been recently talking about the "future of the Mass Effect franchise". You keep saying that EA doesn't need it. They don't, but they aren't going to kill it if it is making them money. And so far, it is.
The Free Jaffa wrote...
xtorma wrote...
No, but if you want to berate people for their ignorence on how corporations work, you need to add a little bit more than.....uggg money good, no money bad.....(scratch armpit)
Don't you have someone to flame?
PoliteAssasin wrote...
How about we stay on topic, the horrible endings, and take mass effect 4 talks elsewhere eh? Let's not give the mods a reason to close the thread.
-Polite
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