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[Nharia1]

TamiBx wrote...

 Good morning (to America)!

Any news? Not that I'm expecting a Bioware statemente to be released anytime soon, but..it's worth checking. 

They'll say something in 2 weeks, at least that's what I heard from someone else on here, about 5 hours ago.... not sure where they got it, Twitter maybe?

[nitefyre410]

TamiBx wrote...

 Good morning (to America)!

Any news? Not that I'm expecting a Bioware statemente to be released anytime soon, but..it's worth checking. 

 

Morning,  

 Here is a new article someone  posted supporting the cause... 

http://www.wildcat.a...ill_be_salvaged  


Me, I'm settling in for the long haul... I'm expecting some kind of response at PAX... hopefully the way I see things shaking out...  They do a Expansion/DLC  Like Awakenings type deal, with Better Endings,  new quest hubs,  MP maps, more interaction, more guns,  new side missions,  more hair styles and casual out fits(especaily for Femshep)   at nice budget price right around the Holiday Season.    It does 2 things.. repair the damage that is done   and gets Mass Effect 3 talked about in the Holiday rush of games. 

[TamiBx]

Nharia1 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Good morning (to America)!

Any news? Not that I'm expecting a Bioware statemente to be released anytime soon, but..it's worth checking. 

They'll say something in 2 weeks, at least that's what I heard from someone else on here, about 5 hours ago.... not sure where they got it, Twitter maybe?

Yeah, something about PAX. I was here when that. I can deal with two weeks, as long as they say they are making one.

I wonder what would happen if they said they aren't...

[kleindropper]

After watching Angry Joe, I am more convinced than ever about Indoctrination Theory.

I never noticed that the child was running into the locked door at the beginning of the game (before the vent scene.) I always thought it was weird that I wasn't given the option to yell at Anderson "hey there is a kid in here!".

Also I didn't understand what Anderson meant by "more than one" after Shep says "I owe you one." And it's very strange that nobody is helping the child into the shuttle. My paragon Shepard finally admitted to somebody in a conversation (Liara I think) that he saw the child and was disturbed by his death.

[fade2black2610]

Alright guys,

Been holding the line now for a week or so and I've had a great time doing it. Everyone's been getting along, fighting for one cause and in a mature and polite manner. We've gotten positive coverage, negative coverage, but we've always reacted the same. Sticking by what we believe in and just trying to get our points of view across.

However, having watched Angry Joe's latest vid (his Mass Effect 3 trilogy videos are fantastic) on indoctrination, I find myself starting to favour this theory greatly. I had read up some stuff on the theory, but I'm pretty sure I hadn't seen nearly all of it and it's a fascinating one. Joe's 10 points put it in all one video and make it a little clearer. Now, there would still be plot holes and let's not even go into selling an unfinished game and ending it with DLC (what about the people who can't afford it/don't have connection through their console?), but that aside... I can't help but believe this now.

I'm still going to hold the line and support you guys as best as I can, because I believe this is still not the right way to go about things from BioWare and their silence is now becoming a real annoyance. I was just wondering if I was alone in this, or if others have been "turned" by seeing all the facts together in the Angry Joe vid.

Peace and love.

[RPGmom28]

Nice article. The question is, did they intend indoctrination, or would they just be grabbing onto the idea that was suggested in order to salvage the situation? Not that I'd blame them.

[Iucounou]

Morning all. I take it there has been no news.

I still think Bioware have played us all. But I'm not going to go away until they explain themselves.

[N085]

 Hi everyone, not sure if this has been posted yet so i'll post now. www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_effect_3/news/mass_effect_3_ending_discussed_by_ken_levine_and_paul_barnett.html

[sutrov]

Hmm, i really don't have a problem with the the way ME3 ended, there as we all know 3 ways of endning the game, and in my opinion, the Renegade solution paves the way for a continuation ;-) ...
Just hope the team have the same thought :-D ... in other words, you wouldn't tell Steven King or some other favorite writer to rewrite their respective work, just because something in the book isn't the way you read was in your interest of what it should or could have been ;-)

There was also a very good explanation of why the story ended as it did, Indoctrination! ... play the series all over again and pay extra attention to the story rather than the gameplay and it all makes sense ;-) ... that's just my personal opinion.

However, i am a dedicated fan of the series as a whole, books comics and games .. i mean WOW!!

Reading Revelation novel, playing Mass effect 1, then read Ascension, then play Mass effec 2, then read Retribution and now playing Mass effect 3 ... the story in it self has some plotholes and flaws, but it's a damn good experience when you go into the depth of the story as a whole, and can only be recommended!!! you won't regret it, and im sure you all will see the end of mass effect 3 in another light ;-)

[Iucounou]

Some information and humour to help people cope. If you can think of more, post them and I'll include them in this list and re-post every once in a while.

Reviews:

Gamefront's 5 reasons the fans are right
http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/
Angry Joe's top 10 reasons to hate the ME3 ending

ME3 endings comparison

Jeremy Jahns ending review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4
Archengeia's thoughts on the ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUqAhKW7498&feature=youtu.be
The California Literary Review
http://calitreview.com/24673
Forbes' Myth of Entitlement
http://www.forbes.co...er-entitlement/
The Mary Sue review
http://www.themarysu...ee-as-possible/
BBC Technology News article
http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719

Podcasts:

The Paranoid Gamer (Lions and Tigers and Bioware, Oh my!)
http://theparanoidga...-bioware-oh-my/
Spill.com (Ending spoiler review)
http://my.spill.com/...logPost:5224387

Inspirational stuff:

The Commander Shepard song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiRDJLcYua0
The Hold the Line video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspE9ctseIU
Commander Shepard is still a jerk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4
Mass Effect - In the End
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCddYcOGYUg&feature=related


Satire and Parody:

ME3 Recontextualised
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWIimukNeAE
Mass Deffect 7 Shepard's Reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYLTbQQEZQ&feature=related
The Animal House ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4iNJXrHA_I
Mass Deffect Monster Reaper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyoev5RzO_w
Japanime ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAmVVAjZZeM
Marauder Shields - He gave his life trying to save us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNoIwHychkY&feature=youtu.be
Marauder Shields comic strip
http://koobismo.devi...rt.com/gallery/

Twitter:

HarbytheReaper
https://twitter.com/#!/HarbyTheReaper

Images and Pictures:

VGCats #300
http://www.vgcats.co...ages/120318.jpg
What it should have said on the box
http://i14.photobuck...me3ba_super.jpg
What the kittens think of it all
http://i14.photobuck...s/ME3Boldly.jpg
Marauder Shields
http://koobismo.devi...andomize:1&qo=4

[TamiBx]

kleindropper wrote...

After watching Angry Joe, I am more convinced than ever about Indoctrination Theory.

I never noticed that the child was running into the locked door at the beginning of the game (before the vent scene.) I always thought it was weird that I wasn't given the option to yell at Anderson "hey there is a kid in here!".

Also I didn't understand what Anderson meant by "more than one" after Shep says "I owe you one." And it's very strange that nobody is helping the child into the shuttle. My paragon Shepard finally admitted to somebody in a conversation (Liara I think) that he saw the child and was disturbed by his death.

Mine admitted to Garrus. 
But I always thought that little boy was weird. There was an article back when the demo first came out to journalists (way back in August or so) where the author implied that the little boy wasn't real, because he said that the little boy just disappeared and no one interacted with him. I don't know, the kid is creepy. 

[Nharia1]

TamiBx wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Good morning (to America)!

Any news? Not that I'm expecting a Bioware statemente to be released anytime soon, but..it's worth checking. 

They'll say something in 2 weeks, at least that's what I heard from someone else on here, about 5 hours ago.... not sure where they got it, Twitter maybe?

Yeah, something about PAX. I was here when that. I can deal with two weeks, as long as they say they are making one.

I wonder what would happen if they said they aren't...

All hell would break loose, there would be riots in the streets, you know the usual stuff~! Honestly though, I'd have to say if they say they aren't going to make us an ending, then Bioware, might no longer exsist at the end of next year maybe.... Sad to think about I know, but that's what happens when you give your major fanbase(or consumers) a rushed ending...

[Nharia1]

TamiBx wrote...

kleindropper wrote...

After watching Angry Joe, I am more convinced than ever about Indoctrination Theory.

I never noticed that the child was running into the locked door at the beginning of the game (before the vent scene.) I always thought it was weird that I wasn't given the option to yell at Anderson "hey there is a kid in here!".

Also I didn't understand what Anderson meant by "more than one" after Shep says "I owe you one." And it's very strange that nobody is helping the child into the shuttle. My paragon Shepard finally admitted to somebody in a conversation (Liara I think) that he saw the child and was disturbed by his death.

Mine admitted to Garrus. 
But I always thought that little boy was weird. There was an article back when the demo first came out to journalists (way back in August or so) where the author implied that the little boy wasn't real, because he said that the little boy just disappeared and no one interacted with him. I don't know, the kid is creepy. 

which convo is that in? Cause I want to do that, I'm tired of not telling them about monsuier godchild.... pissing me off....

[MordiMoro]

sutrov wrote...

However, i am a dedicated fan of the series as a whole, books comics and games .. i mean WOW!!

Reading Revelation novel, playing Mass effect 1, then read Ascension, then play Mass effec 2, then read Retribution and now playing Mass effect 3 ... the story in it self has some plotholes and flaws, but it's a damn good experience when you go into the depth of the story as a whole, and can only be recommended!!! you won't regret it, and im sure you all will see the end of mass effect 3 in another light ;-)

I've tried ... but I still see a patchwork rushed and incomplete.

But you do not see that they were in such haste that sheppy breathing at the end, male or female is the same?

Modifié par MordiMoro, 21 mars 2012 - 12:25 .

[Hendrik.III]

RPGmom28 wrote...

Nice article. The question is, did they intend indoctrination, or would they just be grabbing onto the idea that was suggested in order to salvage the situation? Not that I'd blame them.

Whatever it is, for now it's by far the best solution to the problem. They can certainly use this to save the qualilty of the franchise.

[nitefyre410]

RPGmom28 wrote...

Nice article. The question is, did they intend indoctrination, or would they just be grabbing onto the idea that was suggested in order to salvage the situation? Not that I'd blame them.

 

It was never intended... that much was proven from the Dev notes  released on the Final Hour app...they may be grabing on to it to salvage this mess  because it gives them an easy out... Honestly I just want better endings... Indoc or not.  The whole theory seems like grasping at straws and shoehorns everyone into  Shepard dying ending because the damage  from Indoctrination is irrevisable and can't be fixed.  Which I don't mind but the point is to have variable endings some where Shepard lives, some where Shepard dies etc... now If they go and Retcon  Indoctrination and  come up with a solution to get ouf of it and fix the mental damage...then okay.. 

Indoctrination  = slow and tourtous mind raep until you are slave of the Reapers. 

[TamiBx]

Nharia1 wrote...
All hell would break loose, there would be riots in the streets, you know the usual stuff~! Honestly though, I'd have to say if they say they aren't going to make us an ending, then Bioware, might no longer exsist at the end of next year maybe.... Sad to think about I know, but that's what happens when you give your major fanbase(or consumers) a rushed ending...

I mean, there is a difference between announcing something like this online and in PAX. The media will be there...and so will a lot of fans...
I just hope they don't announce anything bad at PAX...

[nitefyre410]

TamiBx wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...
All hell would break loose, there would be riots in the streets, you know the usual stuff~! Honestly though, I'd have to say if they say they aren't going to make us an ending, then Bioware, might no longer exsist at the end of next year maybe.... Sad to think about I know, but that's what happens when you give your major fanbase(or consumers) a rushed ending...

I mean, there is a difference between announcing something like this online and in PAX. The media will be there...and so will a lot of fans...
I just hope they don't announce anything bad at PAX...

 

it would be prudent for them not to at this point... the brand loyality is trouble.. When Forbes is reporting that this could  damage the brand  permentally ... EA and Bioware Execs took notice.   Now we just have to sit and wait. 

[VivaLaWhatsername]

I just hope no fans let us down at PAX and act like idiots...

[donmaciu]

Just look at what Shepard did! We are different. Live all over the world. Grown up in different environments.
Yet we are all united. We all are...

HOLDING THE LINE

Modifié par donmaciu, 21 mars 2012 - 12:35 .

[Ohpus]

Does any of this increase our Readiness Rating? Really don't want to be obliged to play MP.

Modifié par Ohpus, 21 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[eXelorath]

Hello guys! Back in the trenches holding the line.
Any news? 

[DJBare]

Find below some important links you may want to follow.
Added some inspiritational links, check them out.

BBC news technology section
Angry Joe Mass Effect 3 Review:
Angry Joe 10 plot holes created by ending:
Retake Mass Effect - Child's Play ***Please Donate***
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?
Official ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
Mission Statement Thread
Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports
Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics
Retake Mass Effect on Facebook
IGN facebook page
Retake Mass Effect on Youtube
ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread
Retake Mass Effect 3 Endings - Extranet Site - Resource Collector
PC PowerPlay review
Mass Effect 3 Ending and Why We Hate It!
TAKE IT BACK! - Official Mass Effect 3 Music Video by Miracle Of Sound & Bioware
Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
@RetakeME3

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[RPGmom28]

I'm terrified about that possibility. Fans at a con be like a swarming tide of lunacy. Somebody will be arrested covered in glow paint and shouting, "Remember Marauder Shields!"

[nitefyre410]

xHezz90 wrote...

I just hope no fans let us down at PAX and act like idiots...

 

as long as they are not attacked first but if snide comments starting thrown around at people to their faces...

Things will not end well... Its one thing to throw insults at some one over the net...its whole other ballgame to do it  in person...