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[Nilofeliu]

chujwamdotego wrote...

Look on this:
http://social.biowar...ex/10084349/313

There is a piece from Mrs. Jessica Merizan made about 3 h ago.

It says a bit about ReME3 movement, damage control and this:

"Yes, as someone previously mentioned we are actively monitoring how many people are finishing the game and comparing it to ME2 as a standard. This is the primary reason that we have held off on discussing the endings, for better or worse. You can expect fuller details later, but when I ask you to be patient it's not because I hate you or am scrambling to find the right words to say. I will tell you that I'm really encouraged by the feedback I'm getting and what I'm hearing from the team and I look forward to when that can be shared. Also, multiplayer numbers are a completely separate metric so you don't need to worry about us conflating the two. "

For once I'm glad I totally lost interest in playing games. I hope the less people play in ME3 the better fo Retake ME3.

But I just imagine what will "Ending DLC" do their statitics

Thanks for the piece Chuj, but the funny thing is no matter what they say, it always sounds the same. "We are pretending to listen to you, so you won't stay mad at us. Please wait a bit more until all the rage and frustration is gone, so we can just forget this ever happen and move on.."

Hell, it reminds me of those messages some companies use when they put you on hold over the phone "Your call is very important to us, please wait another ...... minutes until one of our atendants is available to assist you..."

I always hated that..

BuddhaGeek wrote...

This was a video of John Riccitiello, the CEO of EA talking about microtransations in a stockholders meeting a few months ago:


youtu.be/ZR6-u8OIJTE

A couple of quotes from this video stood out to me, given everything that has happened with Retake Mass Effect and the general outrage/fear/anxiety regarding being charged for the "real" ending:

"When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price-sensitive at this point in time"

"A consumer gets engaged in a property, they might spend 10, 20, 30, 50 hours on the game and then when they're deep into the game they're well-invested in it. We're not gouging, but we're charging and at that point in time the commitment can be pretty high"

In light of everything that has been happening, I almost find myself at a loss for words...

That left me speechless as well... As someone said "The Dark side is strong in that one" ..
Now we know what reallu happened to Bioware, and considering all of it, I doubt they will be doing much to help our cause...

Nevertheless, I am holding the line...

/Salute

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 21 mars 2012 - 01:05 .

[Nilofeliu]

edit, double post

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 21 mars 2012 - 01:05 .

[chujwamdotego]

Nilofeliu wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

Look on this:
http://social.biowar...ex/10084349/313

There is a piece from Mrs. Jessica Merizan made about 3 h ago.

It says a bit about ReME3 movement, damage control and this:

"Yes, as someone previously mentioned we are actively monitoring how many people are finishing the game and comparing it to ME2 as a standard. This is the primary reason that we have held off on discussing the endings, for better or worse. You can expect fuller details later, but when I ask you to be patient it's not because I hate you or am scrambling to find the right words to say. I will tell you that I'm really encouraged by the feedback I'm getting and what I'm hearing from the team and I look forward to when that can be shared. Also, multiplayer numbers are a completely separate metric so you don't need to worry about us conflating the two. "

For once I'm glad I totally lost interest in playing games. I hope the less people play in ME3 the better fo Retake ME3.

But I just imagine what will "Ending DLC" do their statitics

Thanks for the piece Chuj, but the funny thing is no matter what they say, it always sounds the same. "We are pretending to listen to you, so you won't stay mad at us. Please wait a bit more until all the rage and frustration is gone, so we can just forget this ever happen and move on.."

Hell, it reminds me of those messages some companies use when they put you on hold over the phone "Your call is very important to us, please wait another ...... minutes until one of our atendants is available to assist you..."

I always hated that..

/Salute

It does always sound the same. But every bit may bring at least some hope.

I just cannot stand the fact, that Bioware destroyed my favorite kind of entertainment. Still I'm willing to let it go if they live up to their promises and statements about "how they care about feedback from fans"

[Atrocity]

Mmm, I'm kinda missing the point of bioware comparing game-finish numbers... I think that's one piece of statistic which is imho largely irrelevant to this, unless of course it's comparing those numbers and the number of people unsatisfied with it.

[Atrocity]

Mmm, I'm kinda missing the point of bioware comparing game-finish numbers... I think that's one piece of statistic which is imho largely irrelevant to this, unless of course it's comparing those numbers and the number of people unsatisfied with it.

[Mavaras]

Nilofeliu wrote...

"When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price-sensitive at this point in time"

.... Evidence doesn't get more damning. Anybody still think we are appreciators of fine art?

[-PG-Skyre]

Was pondering whilst in the shower...If they really wanted us to make the ending up ourselves with our own imagination, they should have just ended the game with the fleet attacking Earth with the Crucible. Yeah, it'd suck...but at least we wouldn't be scratching our heads wondering what just happened...and it'd offer more closure...on love, life and everything...beyond the number 42.

[mulder1199]

[quote]chujwamdotego wrote...


Thanks for the piece Chuj, but the funny thing is no matter what they say, it always sounds the same. "We are pretending to listen to you, so you won't stay mad at us. Please wait a bit more until all the rage and frustration is gone, so we can just forget this ever happen and move on.."

Hell, it reminds me of those messages some companies use when they put you on hold over the phone "Your call is very important to us, please wait another ...... minutes until one of our atendants is available to assist you..."

I always hated that..

/Salute
[/quote]

It does always sound the same. But every bit may bring at least some hope.

I just cannot stand the fact, that Bioware destroyed my favorite kind of entertainment. Still I'm willing to let it go if they live up to their promises and statements about "how they care about feedback from fans"

[/quote]

yes, agreed, fix the end, i'll forgive you....i'll buy your products again...

[Atrocity]

Sorry for double post, wifi @underground is something awful + my ipod won't let me edit x(

[LTBK]

BuddhaGeek wrote...

This was a video of John Riccitiello, the CEO of EA talking about microtransations in a stockholders meeting a few months ago:


youtu.be/ZR6-u8OIJTE 

A couple of quotes from this video stood out to me, given everything that has happened with Retake Mass Effect and the general outrage/fear/anxiety regarding being charged for the "real" ending:

"When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price-sensitive at this point in time"

"A consumer gets engaged in a property, they might spend 10, 20, 30, 50 hours on the game and then when they're deep into the game they're well-invested in it. We're not gouging, but we're charging and at that point in time the commitment can be pretty high"

In light of everything that has been happening, I almost find myself at a loss for words... 

I'm not really surprised about it, but I died a bit inside after reading it.

[Nilofeliu]

Atrocity wrote...

Mmm, I'm kinda missing the point of bioware comparing game-finish numbers... I think that's one piece of statistic which is imho largely irrelevant to this, unless of course it's comparing those numbers and the number of people unsatisfied with it.

Actually this is the statistic that makes more sense for them to pay close attention to. If they are thinking about releasing anything they must be sure it has a high market value, otherwise they will spend more on the product than they will get from sales. Or if they plan on releasing a free DLC (which I very much doubt) they are looking at how many customers will be getting it. If there aren't enough people to make it worthy releasing they will just cut their losses and move on.

However, if they aren't planning at all to do anything about the game, what better excuse they have if not telling us they are paying attention to our feedback. In truth, I believe the last to be the truth and they are just trolling once more hoping this movement will die out...

/Salute

[-PG-Skyre]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Atrocity wrote...
*Snip*

Actually this is the statistic that makes more sense for them to pay close attention to. If they are thinking about releasing anything they must be sure it has a high market value, otherwise they will spend more on the product than they will get from sales. Or if they plan on releasing a free DLC (which I very much doubt) they are looking at how many customers will be getting it. If there aren't enough people to make it worthy releasing they will just cut their losses and move on.

However, if they aren't planning at all to do anything about the game, what better excuse they have if not telling us they are paying attention to our feedback. In truth, I believe the last to be the truth and they are just trolling once more hoping this movement will die out...

/Salute

So really, we'd all better play/finish ME2 as many times as possible to inflate the number. That way if they turn around and say the numbers dont support our claims, we can call their bluff.

[Nimiria]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Mmm, I'm kinda missing the point of bioware comparing game-finish numbers... I think that's one piece of statistic which is imho largely irrelevant to this, unless of course it's comparing those numbers and the number of people unsatisfied with it.

Actually this is the statistic that makes more sense for them to pay close attention to. If they are thinking about releasing anything they must be sure it has a high market value, otherwise they will spend more on the product than they will get from sales. Or if they plan on releasing a free DLC (which I very much doubt) they are looking at how many customers will be getting it. If there aren't enough people to make it worthy releasing they will just cut their losses and move on.

However, if they aren't planning at all to do anything about the game, what better excuse they have if not telling us they are paying attention to our feedback. In truth, I believe the last to be the truth and they are just trolling once more hoping this movement will die out...

/Salute

Then I hope much people will not get any more products from them.

Perhaps they will think about it again in that case.

[Akodoreign]

Great Review here


Says Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

URL : http://www.blueinkal...end-of-shepard/

[-PG-Skyre]

Looks like I'm starting another ME2 play through tomorrow. Wanted to anyways, gonna make Tali a LI...see how things go with her after they...alter...the end. Boost the ME2 finishes stat while I'm at it.

[mulder1199]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Mmm, I'm kinda missing the point of bioware comparing game-finish numbers... I think that's one piece of statistic which is imho largely irrelevant to this, unless of course it's comparing those numbers and the number of people unsatisfied with it.

Actually this is the statistic that makes more sense for them to pay close attention to. If they are thinking about releasing anything they must be sure it has a high market value, otherwise they will spend more on the product than they will get from sales. Or if they plan on releasing a free DLC (which I very much doubt) they are looking at how many customers will be getting it. If there aren't enough people to make it worthy releasing they will just cut their losses and move on.

However, if they aren't planning at all to do anything about the game, what better excuse they have if not telling us they are paying attention to our feedback. In truth, I believe the last to be the truth and they are just trolling once more hoping this movement will die out...

/Salute

they are doing 3 things by waiting for more people to finish. 1) hoping more people like the end 2) hoping we quit 3) buying time

we won't quit, we will hold the line

[VyseN1]

Nilofeliu wrote...


I am thinking what if they decide to wait until PAX only to announce in there that they will not be making any changes to the game, and due to its current situation, that they will also be dropping the franchise....

That would give a whole new meaning to the expression "all hell will break lose"

/Salute

At that point they would have to be stupid not to realize that between DA2 and this, they would lose a lot of customers. Bioware really is at a turning point right now, for a great many people.

[chmarr]

wow really, to busy giving stuff away to other companys instead of thinking about us.

http://www.digitalsp...asy-xiii-2.html

[nythwx]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

Was pondering whilst in the shower...If they really wanted us to make the ending up ourselves with our own imagination, they should have just ended the game with the fleet attacking Earth with the Crucible. Yeah, it'd suck...but at least we wouldn't be scratching our heads wondering what just happened...and it'd offer more closure...on love, life and everything...beyond the number 42.

Our showers must be somehow connected, I was thinking almost the same thing, in the shower

[DJBare]

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BBC news technology section
Angry Joe Mass Effect 3 Review:
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Retake Mass Effect - Child's Play ***Please Donate***
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?
Official ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
Mission Statement Thread
Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports
Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics
Retake Mass Effect on Facebook
IGN facebook page
Retake Mass Effect on Youtube
ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread
Retake Mass Effect 3 Endings - Extranet Site - Resource Collector
PC PowerPlay review
Mass Effect 3 Ending and Why We Hate It!
TAKE IT BACK! - Official Mass Effect 3 Music Video by Miracle Of Sound & Bioware
Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
@RetakeME3

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[Denethar]

I wish I could play the game right now. To see my romances with Ashley and Tali, some of the missions and all that. Did main story mostly on my first run as always, so there are so many good moments I've not seen. But every time I think about starting the game I see that horrible ending in front of me and just end up playing FIFA instead.....FIFA Bioware!, see what you have reduced me to.

sigh, 10 minutes ruined so much.

[talk_sick]

@chujwamdotego - epicki nick bro. kudosy ze stolicy

[BuddhaGeek]

LTBK wrote...

BuddhaGeek wrote...

This was a video of John Riccitiello, the CEO of EA talking about microtransations in a stockholders meeting a few months ago:


youtu.be/ZR6-u8OIJTE 

A couple of quotes from this video stood out to me, given everything that has happened with Retake Mass Effect and the general outrage/fear/anxiety regarding being charged for the "real" ending:

"When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price-sensitive at this point in time"

"A consumer gets engaged in a property, they might spend 10, 20, 30, 50 hours on the game and then when they're deep into the game they're well-invested in it. We're not gouging, but we're charging and at that point in time the commitment can be pretty high"

In light of everything that has been happening, I almost find myself at a loss for words... 

I'm not really surprised about it, but I died a bit inside after reading it.

I found these more enlightening than disheartening mostly because it raised the question on who is really pulling the strings on this whole affair. Is it Bioware or is it EA?  Is EA the "shadowy puppet master"?  Was this the idea they were going for when they released that ending?  So many questions!

[MrFob]

Damn, I just read about the original idea they had for the trilogy's ending back with Drew Karpyshyn. That would have been the most AWESOME ending EVER!!!
The whole choice you would have had at the ending would have been brilliant. Why oh why did they ever steer away from that after ME2. Damn!

[Wearyanna]

MrFob wrote...

Damn, I just read about the original idea they had for the trilogy's ending back with Drew Karpyshyn. That would have been the most AWESOME ending EVER!!!
The whole choice you would have had at the ending would have been brilliant. Why oh why did they ever steer away from that after ME2. Damn!

Can you link to that doc/post please.

Wearyanna out