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[Hendrik.III]

WarBaby2 wrote...

So... not even EA has BioWares back anymore?

http://www.inenterta...3-refund-trend/

Not sure if this is true, but every company has a return policy for unsatisfied customers - so it really doesn't mean that much. 

I would advise people to keep their copy, to show we respect and love the Mass Effect series. At least until we have an official statement from BioWare. We're here to fight for the quality of the series, not to abandon or dismiss it.

Hold the line. We have Shepard's back!

Modifié par Hendrik.III, 21 mars 2012 - 02:27 .

[Mr Chr15topher]

Just saw the headline Mass Effect 3 DLC and got very excited, but then it turned out to be alternate costumes for Final Fantasy XIII-2 styled after ME3.
http://www.xbox360ac...asy-XIII-2.html (how do you hyperlink these things btw? Haven't figured it out yet.)

[mulder1199]

LPKerberos wrote...

This silence could be also taken as to "Wait for the perfect time to announce the ending.". The outcome will be biggest if the outrage is the loudest.

Now, Bioware is not stupid. They are a big company, they are not 3 people sitting in a basement. I think they KNOW:
"Either we change it, we add something, or we loose millions of dollars every year.". With EA beeing a sponsor, I can see a great deal in EA demanding Bioware to release the ending in a DLC which EVERYONE will buy just to get more money. If you have invested hundreds of hours, you want a worthy end. And who here would not pay for it?

With the pressure going on now, no company would keep quite over such a long time if there was not a A+ backup plan in stock.

"Why not go into detail now? Everyone knows the endings.". Yes, but not everyone actually has this emotional state we have right now. We WANT it to end, no matter what the price. Others maybe not. So wait until more complete the game, and then release it. We are in this for the long haul. They know, one week more or less won't kill everything.

The refund thing is actually not by Bioware, but by some companies themselves. When I was in a Media Markt today and asked about it they said: "No, No refunds.". If Bioware would want to get rid of us, the order for refunds would be everywhere, not just amazon and Origin. It is simply a matter of saying: "If you are not happy, we will refund you.". It is to keep bad critics because of wasted money at bay. It would also contradict with gambles post: "If fans knew what is to come, the reaction would be different.". He is NOT a fool. He knows that the only different reaction (Happiness) would be a new ending.

so they basically have 2 options, rescue dlc that closes up the holes in the story for the upset (unlikely) as there's a set market NOT to buy this

or a patch+DLC like 'omega' that will up your galactic readiness war assests etc and along with the patch fixes the holes....

[WarBaby2]

Hendrik.III wrote...

Not sure if this is true, but every company has a return policy for dissatisfied customers - so it really doesn't mean that much. 

And hat about "it is art"? You cannot refund art... ok, ok, I'll drop it... it makes no sense whatsoever.^^

[nitefyre410]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Just saw the headline Mass Effect 3 DLC and got very excited, but then it turned out to be alternate costumes for Final Fantasy XIII-2 styled after ME3.
http://www.xbox360ac...asy-XIII-2.html (how do you hyperlink these things btw? Haven't figured it out yet.)

 

insignificant  fan service...  the same thing  was done for Assassins Creed there are ton of alternate costumes you can get for them. This is just comestic  things....  don't be distracted by that announcement.  

needs to stay focused on the endings.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 21 mars 2012 - 02:29 .

[mulder1199]

hey casey, you may say this isn't the last we'll hear from shep....it's the last you'll get my money to hear from him unless the ending is changed.....

just sayin

hold the line!

[ClericofDeath286]

52K+ replies and no real word from bioware............... I is sad's

[RDSFirebane]

689,727 <-- was just told thats how many unhappy gamers are on the Mass effect 3 FB page as of late is that true? and if so how is that a minority in any way?

[Ossborn76]

Reporting back to the line.

I think, i spent a little bit to much of my spare time here (mostly reading, thread grows faster than I can read, sometimes posting), so I will have to reduce my activity here in the next days, as Bioware anyway said, there will be no news for the next 2 weeks

But I am not lost to the movement, I just don´t come back every 5 minutes to the thread, but every 2-3 hours.

I still hold the line!

Oh, and Goikiu... if you didn´t see it already... you got mail 

Modifié par Ossborn76, 21 mars 2012 - 02:30 .

[BCMakoto]

mulder1199 wrote...



so they basically have 2 options, rescue dlc that closes up the holes in the story for the upset (unlikely) as there's a set market NOT to buy this

or a patch+DLC like 'omega' that will up your galactic readiness war assests etc and along with the patch fixes the holes....

Or three:
Give the DLC which gives in after Shepards breath and complete the story. I always read indoctrination.

Guys, he was hit by a Reaper laser and was possibly tossed meters. Hitting his head would cause a serious knockout and everything could be a delusion. It does not have to be indoctrination by default.

It is simple not physically possible to survive the explosion at the destroy point, the air field of the citadel exploding with it, then beeing in the emptyness of space for several minutes, THEN falling back to Earth. In his physical state. Every child knows that. But hey,

[Nilofeliu]

Phaedros wrote...

Bubi7 wrote...

MrFob wrote...
Sorry, can't find the original post anymore. But I googled a link to some forum where the essentials are summed up in the 4th post (the big one with spoiler warnings). Here you go. Apparently hardly anyone else liked it but I think it would have been a very fitting ending.

That dark engery ending makes more sense, since in our time, the dark energy is essential to hold clusters and galaxies together. It just makes sense that this energy is depleting or increasing over time and isn't that helpful anymore. Like CO² or O³ on our planet. Seeing Biowares skill to write awesome stories (not including the end) why they did not stick to the ending. OMG STORY LEAKED NOW WE MUST CHANGE. I certainly do not agree to that.

That's Dark Matter.  Dark Energy is something else..

Funny thing is, if they had chosen to use the Dark Matter theory for an ending, it would still give them plenty of options for a later development of the series. According to that theory the Reapers were harversting species so they could find a way to deal with dark matter, so even if we won the battle against the Reapers, we still had to do something about it. This alone would leave plenty of space to develop even a new trilogy with new characters. And we would get to see how all of ours choices played out in the new trilogy, or at least some of the major choices, like peace between Geth and Quarians, ending the genophage, etc..

Instead, we  got a very rushed and poorly done ending, with no sense at all, and that gives Bioware no leeway for future series development in the mass effect universe. This was not only a poor PR, customer's satisfaction decision. This was bad business and management decision mostly. Even if there wasn't such an outrage, they would have still killed the series because there isn't anything left to do in it right now.

And instead of acknowledging it, Bioware decided to call a "major management screwup merged with  poor writing skills" simply an "artistic license work". Fancy name for such a mess. Wake up Bioware, you are only hurting youself..

/Salute

And holding the line

[Katsumi Liqueur]

"And we won't fight this war alone my friends
Shepard's on his way back home again..."

Oh, BW, why, why lie to us even on the song?

[revaew]

AntiDave wrote...

What the hell is this?
https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

Bioware so unbelievably ignorant. God I could puke right now,
We aren't even taken seriously.

this page doesnt exist anymore. what did it say?

[Goikiu]

Ossborn76 wrote...

Reporting back to the line.

I think, i spent a little bit to much of my spare time here (mostly reading, thread grows faster than I can read, sometimes posting), so I will have to reduce my activity here in the next days, as Bioware anyway said, there will be no news for the next 2 weeks

But I am not lost to the movement, I just don´t come back every 5 minutes to the thread, but every 2-3 hours.

I still hold the line!

Oh, and Goikiu... if you didn´t see it already... you got mail 

Seen and replyed thanks 

[Masrim]

I remember reading how we would get 16 different endings, and I was really looking forward to that. I also remember how over 1000 variables from the 3 games would determine the ending. Instead we got...

[Goikiu]

revaew wrote...

AntiDave wrote...

What the hell is this?
https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

Bioware so unbelievably ignorant. God I could puke right now,
We aren't even taken seriously.

this page doesnt exist anymore. what did it say?

The page exists. 

https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

[Doppelgaenger]

Reporting back in.

[mulder1199]

LPKerberos wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...



so they basically have 2 options, rescue dlc that closes up the holes in the story for the upset (unlikely) as there's a set market NOT to buy this

or a patch+DLC like 'omega' that will up your galactic readiness war assests etc and along with the patch fixes the holes....

Or three:
Give the DLC which gives in after Shepards breath and complete the story. I always read indoctrination.

Guys, he was hit by a Reaper laser and was possibly tossed meters. Hitting his head would cause a serious knockout and everything could be a delusion. It does not have to be indoctrination by default.

It is simple not physically possible to survive the explosion at the destroy point, the air field of the citadel exploding with it, then beeing in the emptyness of space for several minutes, THEN falling back to Earth. In his physical state. Every child knows that. But hey,

agreed, i'll take it, anything really.....if they wanted to do this, just patch it in at the end, another choice after elroy (the space kid) and you pick that one and boom there you are at the breathe scene, finish up the battle, score...

[Mr Chr15topher]

LPKerberos wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...



so they basically have 2 options, rescue dlc that closes up the holes in the story for the upset (unlikely) as there's a set market NOT to buy this

or a patch+DLC like 'omega' that will up your galactic readiness war assests etc and along with the patch fixes the holes....

Or three:
Give the DLC which gives in after Shepards breath and complete the story. I always read indoctrination.

Guys, he was hit by a Reaper laser and was possibly tossed meters. Hitting his head would cause a serious knockout and everything could be a delusion. It does not have to be indoctrination by default.

It is simple not physically possible to survive the explosion at the destroy point, the air field of the citadel exploding with it, then beeing in the emptyness of space for several minutes, THEN falling back to Earth. In his physical state. Every child knows that. But hey,

Unless someone rebuilds him again with space magic 

Modifié par Mr Chr15topher, 21 mars 2012 - 02:34 .

[TSC_1]

revaew wrote...

AntiDave wrote...

What the hell is this?
https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

Bioware so unbelievably ignorant. God I could puke right now,
We aren't even taken seriously.

this page doesnt exist anymore. what did it say?

It's still there. It says this:

@mirta0001 We are getting plenty of feedback from people who love the ending and consider the thought of changing it an affront, as well.

Keep in mind they aren't saying they would be affronted by a change. They're saying the people who liked the ending would be.

[RDSFirebane]

Goikiu wrote...

The page exists. 

https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

They really want to see the game of the year be the most returned as well huh?

[Generic Name]

BuddhaGeek wrote...
A couple of quotes from this video stood out to me, given everything that has happened with Retake Mass Effect and the general outrage/fear/anxiety regarding being charged for the "real" ending:

"When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price-sensitive at this point in time"

"A consumer gets engaged in a property, they might spend 10, 20, 30, 50 hours on the game and then when they're deep into the game they're well-invested in it. We're not gouging, but we're charging and at that point in time the commitment can be pretty high"

In light of everything that has been happening, I almost find myself at a loss for words... 

I stumbled across that some time last week and it caused me to uninstall BF3 (a game I had hardly played since it launched).

Pyjaks reporting. I've got about 4 pages left to read to be caught up.

Hold the line.

[spacefiddle]

Hi Thar!

I've been active in some other fast-moving threads for a bit. Just wanted to report in, and mention some things:

1. As I should have realized from the start, the game reports final saves / completion / achievements to BWEA. As a determined skeptic of corporate statements and firm believer that this was all botched very badly, I feel that when they say they are "waiting for more people to finish the game," they really are. Not some vague date, but actual numbers of completions seen. Tangentally, if the numbers of say "games completed per week" suddenly flattens out, this will also tell them that people are not replaying, or hearing about the endings and giving up on the idea, or boycotting play. So let's give a little slack to BWEA on this one, it seems honestly legit.

2. Some of the stat hounds at Bioware will be looking at BSN stats over the rest of the week. It was brought up how many new forumites there seem to be precisely because of this issue, and how many long-time lurkers have gone active. Numbers of suddenly-vocal customers, who have moved out of the silent majority, may be a new dimension not previously looked at. The metrics BWEA has may give insight into this movement that weren't previously available for this sort of thing.

So, for new folks joining us, or folks with old accounts who've barely posted in 2 years then suddenly pepper the forums with posts (such as myself), you ARE going to be noticed.

On that last - if you haven't voted in a poll, do so, however you feel about it. Qualitatively, your "recent posts" will show how you feel, but quantitatively, how you vote in polls will be much faster to gather and analyze.

SSV Wes'Philly gettin' some more coffee.

[RedWolf08]

LPKerberos wrote...
snip

Now how about this:
How about Bioware is comparing the ending numbers to wait for the best possible time to actually release a "Pay to play" DLC for the endings. Judging by EA beeing the sponsor, and the quotes above, I can just imagine it right now. "You love the game? Then PAY for the end!".

I will hold the Line until this is trough. It is some interesting stuff to think about though.

If they add new endings to a DLC and charge for it, I think I MIGHT buy it just to see the conclusion to my shep and what happened to my friends and the rest of the galaxy, but I guarantee that will be the last thing I buy from Bioware/EA.  Stuff like that sets a very very bad precedent in that if they get away with it other gaming companies are likely to follow thinking "hey we can have a crappy ending or a non ending and then put out a better ending dlc and we'll make even more money"

Bioware/EA-If you think I need to imagine my own ending with what you gave me, then you can imagine me playing your future games while I'm playing games from other companies.

[SpuDSheraM]