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baronkohinar wrote...
The cynical part of me feels like they're just waiting 'til April 'cause that's when the one-month window expires to return the game to Amazon for a full refund...
. I was hoping not to have to do this to them..
Well, it's nice to see that this is going to the highest levels (of Bioware, anyway). However, he didn't really say much. Of course, as many individuals have pointed out with great insight on this and other threads, if anything is going to happen about the ending, it's not going to be tomorrow. Large corporations are slow beasts.Prince Lex wrote...
YES THERE IS SOMETHING NEW!!!
Co-Founder of Bioware makes an official statement.
Modifié par beyondsolo, 21 mars 2012 - 03:41 .
Aedera wrote...
Everyone needs to relax a bit. We got a direct statement from pretty much the biggest name we could get from bioware. He even said they are working to address the questions we have. Our job now is to not let them forget about their words. Keep having active discussions regarding our displeasure of the ending(s) but keep it civil. The gnashing of teeth and anger can get out of hand. I am just as mad as everyone but keep it civil.
The thing that bothers me is that it really looks like the indoctrination theory isn't what they were doing. I still dont see how they could have lost all control of the story right at the end. I mean, EVERYTHING just fell apart.
But overall, we got direct feedback and a bit more of a conformation they are going to do something about it. Not enough for me to stop posting but i do at least feel like it is progress.
Modifié par naes1984, 21 mars 2012 - 03:40 .
Benirus wrote...
Ok, I've been very carfull with my words so far, but that is bull****.Prince Lex wrote...
YES THERE IS SOMETHING NEW!!!
Co-Founder of Bioware makes an official statement.
It's like talking to a child... "Uh-uh, but everyone said we did good with the rest of the game so I don't really care"
He constantly deflects the criticism with pointing to the good things "But hey, I know that last part was soulcrushing and made people clinicly depressed, but look at the total score! :wizard:"
Hold the line people, I got the feeling this statement is purely to gain support from people who don't know or understand what the fuss is about.
Modifié par Nilofeliu, 21 mars 2012 - 03:42 .
Prince Lex wrote...
YES THERE IS SOMETHING NEW!!!
Co-Founder of Bioware makes an official statement.
Modifié par Gtacatalina, 21 mars 2012 - 03:52 .
Mattroy wrote...
"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey."
This is the only thing I took away from the article, which could just be him talking about regular DLC they already had planned. Still, the whole journal was neither here nor there so I'm gonna keep holding the line until we get a definitive "yes" or "no".
Also, 75 reviewers? That's a vocal minority compared to what we've gathered here.
Matt_gekko88 wrote...
Maybe we'll get an "April fool guys!"...
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Aedera wrote...
Everyone needs to relax a bit. We got a direct statement from pretty much the biggest name we could get from bioware. He even said they are working to address the questions we have. Our job now is to not let them forget about their words. Keep having active discussions regarding our displeasure of the ending(s) but keep it civil. The gnashing of teeth and anger can get out of hand. I am just as mad as everyone but keep it civil.
The thing that bothers me is that it really looks like the indoctrination theory isn't what they were doing. I still dont see how they could have lost all control of the story right at the end. I mean, EVERYTHING just fell apart.
But overall, we got direct feedback and a bit more of a conformation they are going to do something about it. Not enough for me to stop posting but i do at least feel like it is progress.
Jere85 wrote...
People... stop complaining about him being vague please, he has to be in order to keep up with whatever they are planning, at least he's saying something, and what he says is positive news, i would call it a win at any day, its all we could ask for after getting the silent treatment for so long. Seriously take what you can get, stop being greedy.
Thanks Ray, you da man!
DJBare wrote...
Then do not prove him right.KaiserinKai wrote...
He's treating us like a bunch of 5 year olds stomping our feet in a fanboy rage, rather than consumers who are unhappy with a product due to false advertising.
beyondsolo wrote...
Well, it's nice to see that this is going to the highest levels (of Bioware, anyway). However, he didn't really say much. Of course, as many individuals have pointed out with great insight on this and other threads, if anything is going to happen about the ending, it's not going to be tomorrow. Large corporations are slow beasts.Prince Lex wrote...
YES THERE IS SOMETHING NEW!!!
Co-Founder of Bioware makes an official statement.
I wonder what those "game content initiatives" are Muzyka speaks of. Are they actually considering game content to at least clarify the endings? I'm afraid that this would be a waste of time, as the first thing they need to address are the absolutely ridiculous plot holes. I'd very much like to know why everyone abandoned Shepard at the end and how they got aboard the Normandy--and I doubt BioWare is going to have an easy time filling any of those plotholes with content that expands on the existing ending.
Muzyka also stated that we'll be able to continue the story of our Shepards. Well, I find that hard to believe. I'm pretty sure that they at least planned pre-ending content (such as Omega), but nothing to happen after the ending. I mean, I would have bought additional pre-ending missions to expand the experience, if not everything was leading up to the same, completely detached ten minutes that render every action obsolete.
Finally, I doubt that BioWare's surprise at the fan reaction to the endings is genuine. From my point of view they just pasted it together because they were running out of time or ideas and hoped for the best--like when having to write an essay and having no clue what to write about. Even if we ignore how the last ten minutes are completely detached from the rest of the game, there are so many plotholes, fractures of style, and contradictions of established canon that I cannot see how the otherwise competent writers at BioWare could have in good conscience released it.
And that's what bugs me. I think they didn't release it in good conscience. I think they were biting their finger nails all the way up to their wrists, hoping that no one would notice. Well, I'm sorry, BioWare, but you have one of the most dedicated and involved fan bases out there. Of course we noticed.
I would like BioWare to see our protest against the ending as a chance to fix things. Personally, I'm not demanding a new ending tomorrow. I'm asking that BioWare look at their work critically and do what they should have done in the first place: take their time to develop an ending that is worthy of a so far fantastic series.
Nilofeliu wrote...
The bold part is the entire problem in my opinion. Trust. As Bioware's late behavior I just can't find eny trust left in the company. Some of you are already cheering because of this article and some going as far as saying that we have won. This isn't true. We have not won, and this entire article is just another pretense meant to cool us down and forget about the movement.
As far as I was able to perceive, he didn't lie about anything, however, he didn't tell us anything we didn't previously know. This is the same kind of announcements we have been getting for the past week where Bioware states they are reviewing our feedback and that all critics are being taken into consideration. But they haven't told us anything yet about what they plan to do.
And the answer is simple. They have no plans, and so far they are only worried about damage control. They want us to return meekly to our lives and let go of this. They do not want to share Mass Effect 3 with us, because they believe deep in it is not ours, therefore, they have no need to share. They also believe, as many Bioware represantatives have already claimed that the ending is "perfect" and no changes are needed.
For over a week I have been posting critics and statements asking Bioware to prove me wrong. Hoping they will find in their hearts that appeasing the customers is the best business call they can make, and not only a PR one. But so far, all we got is silence followed by empty words.
This will not do Bioware. Acknowledge your wrongdoings and mistakes, acknowledge the sub par game you threw as us hoping we would he happy with whatever we got as long as it had you logo stamped on it, and once you do acknowledge it and your mistakes, apologise. Only then, we will be able to start trusting you again.
/Salute
And holding the line
baronkohinar wrote...
The cynical part of me feels like they're just waiting 'til April 'cause that's when the one-month window expires to return the game to Amazon for a full refund...
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