Aller au contenu

Photo

So we can't get the ending we want after all?


101103 réponses à ce sujet

#501
Die Varieties

Die Varieties
  • Members
  • 137 messages

Demigod wrote...

One thing that doesnt seem to be touched in the spoilers mentioned so far. What is the scene after the credits the first review mentioned?


I wonder if that could be the scene on earth showing some survivors around a campfire talking about the "Shepard" story.

#502
scotkrow

scotkrow
  • Members
  • 224 messages

Luc0s wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Has anyone thought that this is bioware's game and story, we are only the fans, they can do what they want with their story. We can only make requests and hope they are heard, but sometimes you get what you didn't want, and later you come to appreciate it for it's originality.


Well.. Considering that the fans are the ones buying their games it would behoove them to atleast think about how we feel. Especially if we've invested so much of our time(and money) in the previous parts of the series. 


Noone read my post on page 16 did they, of course not, if you did you'd also read my opinion on this "leak" and why I think all this ****ing and moaning is pointless, I'll have to say I'm just here to see what other idiotics complaints people come up with.  It's entertaining.


Your opinion on the leak doesn't matter, as the leak is proven to be accurate, even more accurate than I hoped it would be. People who have played ME3 confirmed this.


I always refuse to believe leaks, as they can be fabricated, until I confirm them with my own experiences.

Also I love Sangy, they know what's going on.

Modifié par scotkrow, 28 février 2012 - 05:37 .


#503
InHarmsWay

InHarmsWay
  • Members
  • 1 080 messages
With every race above earth I say they should get to work on this:

http://www.popsci.co...6-05/warp-drive

This is thought up by our scientists, now! Today! About 150 years before ME. I don't see how they wouldn't be able to whip this up in ME. There is no excuse they shouldn't be able to figure this out with some of the top minds in the universe working on it.

#504
Teredan

Teredan
  • Members
  • 552 messages

Nerevar-as wrote...

Teredan wrote...

KoToR 2 is an obsidian game nuff said, I was arguing bioware games.


TOR is a BW game and it screwed what was left of Kotor 1 and 2, mainly the main characters, without any need for it.

But if this is all true BW is in for a nasty surprise regarding DLC sales and future games. DA2  has already cost them a lot of credit, so possibly failing to end ME properly would hit even harder.

At least I´m starting to understand how Deception got approved.


I see I didn't know he was referring to the MMO, thx for correcting. I can't comment on that because I haven't played the MMO nor do I plan to. For what it counts KotoR is a game that has a place of eternal glory in my memory as a kid.

#505
Heather Cline

Heather Cline
  • Members
  • 2 822 messages
i wouldn't mind an ending where the crew is screwed as long as my shepard got to be with her LI in the end. ended up with her LI even if stranded on an alien planet, that is what i want to see happen. give us a little something. the romances are a major subplot in the ME series. why include it at all if they are just going to screw you over about the LI endings? makes no sense especially after LotSB where Shep and Liara if you had that romance stated 'marriage, old age, lots of little blue children'. that's one hell of a way to get our hopes up then dash them with these crappy endings.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 28 février 2012 - 05:37 .


#506
DarxydeBluus

DarxydeBluus
  • Members
  • 140 messages
I'll wait to see how it plays out because I still have questions but I'm not happy. The Crew getting stranded is probably the most offensive thing I've read because they are effectively left to die a slow, painful death. As others have pointed out, there is not enough there to create a viable colony and Garrus and Tali have even greater problems in that they can't consume the same foods we can.

Also, I'm confused about where the last mission is, if Shepard survives and is stranded, where is he stranded?

#507
Balancer

Balancer
  • Members
  • 142 messages

sangy wrote...

I'm a skeptic. I see no proof. I understand some have already played the whole game and anything is possible. Still, there's no evidence as to exactly what the endings are. Till I see it on video or after I've played the game through thoroughly, all these statements are just baseless ramblings.

How many endings could someone have gone through even with the "Space Edition"? The Mass Effect team won't confirm anything because they're not allowed. Only they can give a true spoiler. Even with videos, you'll still never know unless you play it through several times.

Don't believe the hype!


True story, i wont judge until i finished the game myself. still if these endings are true i dont really mind and for the romance part i dont mind he flashbacks if only before the end you get a chance with your li

#508
AllThatJazz

AllThatJazz
  • Members
  • 2 758 messages

AVPen wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

There are 7 endings we know of. 6 of them are:
2 endings for Control
4 endings for Destroy
Each of these range from "Earth is screwed" to "Earth is ok". This has been confirmed by several people who played the game early.

There's also another one, a 7th ending, which is stated to be an ending we can achieve if we "get a perfect game", and that is the Synergy, or "Merge" ending. (They are one and the same) I'm guessing the NG+ ending is this one.

Incorrect, the Synergy "Merge" ending is NOT the Perfect Ending (not by a long shot, apparently), nor is it the NG+ Ending (which no one has seen as of yet).


How do you know this? I'm not meaning that question in a horrible 'RAAAWWWRRRR YOU KNOW NOTHING' kind of way, it's a genuine question :)

#509
scotkrow

scotkrow
  • Members
  • 224 messages
The LI are more about finding comfort in the eye of the storm before rushing back in. They aren't about happily ever after.

#510
Teredan

Teredan
  • Members
  • 552 messages

Xayoz wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Actually the "ultimate sacrifice" archetype is the far more prevelant one.

Heh. No.


Depends on what medium of fiction.
Nevertheless I also wouldn't agree that it's the far more prevelant one looking at fiction as a whole.
What I would argue is that it's common enough that I don't get people praising creators for going for that ending on the merit of it being original, unusual etc...

#511
panamakira

panamakira
  • Members
  • 2 751 messages

RiouHotaru wrote...

AVPen wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

There are 7 endings we know of. 6 of them are:
2 endings for Control
4 endings for Destroy
Each of these range from "Earth is screwed" to "Earth is ok". This has been confirmed by several people who played the game early.

There's also another one, a 7th ending, which is stated to be an ending we can achieve if we "get a perfect game", and that is the Synergy, or "Merge" ending. (They are one and the same) I'm guessing the NG+ ending is this one.

Incorrect, the Synergy ending is NOT the Perfect Ending, nor is it the NG+ Ending (which no one has seen as of yet).


I'm calling bullcrap on the whole "the six endings are variations of a theme".  There's no point to that.  ME1 allowed for variations on a theme with it's ending, even if it was only in the dialog.  Why make 6 endings if they're just copy-pastes with minor changes.

And locking an ending behind NG+ is the biggest kind of 'No'.  Again, much like these supposedly "leaked" endings, it flies directly in the face of Bioware's style.  Regardless of whether you like their writing or not, Bioware is amazingly consistent.  To suddenly pull a 180 degree paradigm shift NOW makes NO GODDAMN SENSE.


That is true. Not even in Dragon Age 2's "tragic disaster" or whatever ppl were ****ing about was as bad. I will believe in that we might have some hope left until I play the game.

#512
Nerevar-as

Nerevar-as
  • Members
  • 5 375 messages

Teredan wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Teredan wrote...

KoToR 2 is an obsidian game nuff said, I was arguing bioware games.


TOR is a BW game and it screwed what was left of Kotor 1 and 2, mainly the main characters, without any need for it.

But if this is all true BW is in for a nasty surprise regarding DLC sales and future games. DA2  has already cost them a lot of credit, so possibly failing to end ME properly would hit even harder.

At least I´m starting to understand how Deception got approved.


I see I didn't know he was referring to the MMO, thx for correcting. I can't comment on that because I haven't played the MMO nor do I plan to. For what it counts KotoR is a game that has a place of eternal glory in my memory as a kid.


It has a good place in my memory and I played it as an adult. I´m just used to ignore the parts of the SW EU I don´t like (a lot and growing ...), but I can´t do the same here.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 28 février 2012 - 05:40 .


#513
incinerator950

incinerator950
  • Members
  • 5 617 messages

magnuskn wrote...

Harvoification wrote...

Why is everyone complaining? You wanted a happy ending where very little is sacrificed? The Reapers continued the cycle for millions of years, stopping them should be a huge sacrifice. It should be sad. There should be no ultimate happy ending where Shepard settles down for retirement with his LI because it just isn't realistic and breaks the immersion and isn't believable.

For those that say "It makes everything Shepard does seem pointless" are illogical. Without the actions of Shepard in ME1 the Reapers would've gained access to the Citadel and all spacefaring life would have been exterminated within centuries.

Shepard broke the cycle. At huge cost, yes, but wasn't that his true goal? To save the galaxy from the Reapers? He did, and saved all future civilizations as well.


What exactly gives you the authority to decide whether a more happy ending is appropiate or not? There has been tons of fiction where you could get a good ending, is all of that fiction wrong? Because you say so?

You are not the sole arbiter of what is good writing and what is not.


Neither are you and the majority of people in this topic.

#514
Commander Dariush Shepard

Commander Dariush Shepard
  • Members
  • 288 messages

balancer wrote...

sangy wrote...

I'm a skeptic. I see no proof. I understand some have already played the whole game and anything is possible. Still, there's no evidence as to exactly what the endings are. Till I see it on video or after I've played the game through thoroughly, all these statements are just baseless ramblings.

How many endings could someone have gone through even with the "Space Edition"? The Mass Effect team won't confirm anything because they're not allowed. Only they can give a true spoiler. Even with videos, you'll still never know unless you play it through several times.

Don't believe the hype!


True story, i wont judge until i finished the game myself. still if these endings are true i dont really mind and for the romance part i dont mind he flashbacks if only before the end you get a chance with your li



Yeah. Let's just hope there can be a free-roaming ending *crosses fingers*. This guy sounds like he just read the scrpt, y'know, minus the crew part. and flashback part. I dunno, it seems a little Troll-ish to me. :unsure:

#515
sangy

sangy
  • Members
  • 662 messages
A song for the forum, hope this link works.

http://pl.st/s/43943185

#516
cerberus1701

cerberus1701
  • Members
  • 1 791 messages

CerberusSoldier wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

****SPOILER***** ALERT ***** SPOILER *****


But let's think for a moment: IF we save earth, and destroy the reapers. The citadel is moved to Earth during the game, and the final choice will happen there. Which means Shepard is in Earth after the destruction, so are all the civilizations, ships, troops, from every species Shepard gathered to help retake Earth. The protheans reverse engineered the mass relays. So, with the help of Turians, Salarians, Asari, Krogan (maybe even the Prothean himself) *, which will want to get back to their homeworlds, wouldn't it be a logic outcome that everybody would try to build mass relays ASAP, and eventually finding the Normandy crew wherever they are?


As we say in Brazil, "Hope is the last one to die!".

EDIT: forgot about Quarians and Geth!*



This makes perfect sense.

Add to that the fact that they've already confirmed mission style DLC and the fact that they simple are not going to *end* the universe of a AAA title that has consitently earned more acclaim and more cash for BW/EA I'd say this is likely.

But too many people want their bows tied up all nice and pretty NOW.

    



Bioware should have learned after DA 2 well this time  they will learn the hard way


Why would they? Most people aren't complaining (A good chunk of people here are, but we're not most people.) We're fans of a game. Fans that care enough to post on a social forum that revolves around it. We're a subset of a subset.

*Most* buyers will, quite probably be satisfied with the game, ending included.

And I find your protests hollow since, if the guess that it was planned from the start and will be released is correct, and subsequent DLC restores the universe to largely what it was before, you're going to buy it, lap it up and sing BW's praises and be at the midnight launch for the next game to pick up your CE.

And if that's not the case, I, for one, never expected Shep to cheat death forever or even expected the galaxy to continue with the Reaper relays intact.

#517
Teredan

Teredan
  • Members
  • 552 messages

incinerator950 wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Harvoification wrote...

Why is everyone complaining? You wanted a happy ending where very little is sacrificed? The Reapers continued the cycle for millions of years, stopping them should be a huge sacrifice. It should be sad. There should be no ultimate happy ending where Shepard settles down for retirement with his LI because it just isn't realistic and breaks the immersion and isn't believable.

For those that say "It makes everything Shepard does seem pointless" are illogical. Without the actions of Shepard in ME1 the Reapers would've gained access to the Citadel and all spacefaring life would have been exterminated within centuries.

Shepard broke the cycle. At huge cost, yes, but wasn't that his true goal? To save the galaxy from the Reapers? He did, and saved all future civilizations as well.


What exactly gives you the authority to decide whether a more happy ending is appropiate or not? There has been tons of fiction where you could get a good ending, is all of that fiction wrong? Because you say so?

You are not the sole arbiter of what is good writing and what is not.


Neither are you and the majority of people in this topic.


The difference is that he doesn't deny other people endings they like.

#518
RolandX9

RolandX9
  • Members
  • 449 messages
If this is true, I Am Dissapoint. I'll wait until the game's actually out, but...yeah, after all the "lol JRPGs are linear" smacktalk from days gone by, I would've hoped that Bioware wouldn't pull an obvious "oh crap we need to force everything back to a single point where we can make sequels" thing.

Ah well, here's hoping.

#519
Pallym

Pallym
  • Members
  • 61 messages

Xayoz wrote...

Agreeage!
I wanted an ending where I marry TIM and make at least 6 blue-eyed babies!

Preorder. Cancelled.

blue eyes FTW<3

#520
turian councilor Knockout

turian councilor Knockout
  • Members
  • 1 127 messages
yeah your poor dear LI will die a horrible death while the rest of the galaxy just " Ah well you're stranded we've already dismissed that claim" and they slowly fade away from the harsh environment so if you wanna be happy then you damn well take as many reapers with you as you can.

#521
scotkrow

scotkrow
  • Members
  • 224 messages

sangy wrote...

A song for the forum, hope this link works.

http://pl.st/s/43943185


I approve, this recieves the awesomness stamp and a hug.:D

#522
Teredan

Teredan
  • Members
  • 552 messages
A shepard dies ending could be actually really good if bw would show us the aftermath through the characters that shepard touched including his crew.

I mean anybody remembers the glory of ocarina of time ending? Where the whole world celebrates.
And you see almost all the characters you've met.

#523
Nerevar-as

Nerevar-as
  • Members
  • 5 375 messages
BTW, things shouldn´t end happy because the Reapers are too strong? Well, they didn´t no mater what. Humanity has been massacred. Asari and Turians don´t seem to have fared much better. Batarians have it worse than humans. And so on. So even if Shepard lived and retired with the LI it still would be a bittersweet ending. All it would take is actually showing it and not passing over it as with th hundreds of thousands of reapered colonists from ME2. A million is not ans statistic if you don´t treat it as such.

#524
Arch1eviathan

Arch1eviathan
  • Members
  • 1 100 messages

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

yeah your poor dear LI will die a horrible death while the rest of the galaxy just " Ah well you're stranded we've already dismissed that claim" and they slowly fade away from the harsh environment so if you wanna be happy then you damn well take as many reapers with you as you can.


Words to live by.

#525
Heather Cline

Heather Cline
  • Members
  • 2 822 messages
In Ocarina of Time Link got sent back in time to his past to grow up again after defeating Gannon. So in fact there was a happy ending.