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[clearsnowflakes]

I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but that letter actually made me more angry than anything. It almost sounded condescending.

In any case, I've lost so much faith in Bioware that I probably won't buy whatever DLC is coming out until after I read up on it...

[Computim]

naes1984 wrote...

Computim wrote...

That's because Dragon Age II didn't try to sell the idea that your choices all mattered and then yanked the rug out from under you at the end.  They made really no claims about that and most people just played the game they were presented.. some didn't like it, I didn't mind it at all, only thing I disliked was that you never left that city...ever.

When you advertise "NO A, B, OR C endings!" and push how much your choices matter, it shows A) You didn't really have a complete comprehension of your own project, or  You didn't care.

I guess the rug was really pulled out from the fans in DA2 when they couldn't import their Grey Warden hero from DA and DA:Awakenings. Instead we get Hawke who may as well have been a silent protaganist.

Yeah but they also advertised DA2 was supposed to be a different story arc fairly early on if I remember correctly.  Everyone KNEW Mass Effect was a singular arc.

DA2, by itself, was a solid story as well and had it been DA1 would have been a standards setting game.
For that alone I can forgive a LOT of things.  ME3 was a solid story up to the end then dropped the ball big time.  The standard was set BY Bioware, and they failed to live up to it, which is why there is so much disappointment, add in the completely inaccurate comments by individuals prior to the game launch and you get a recipe for what we're seeing now.

[Mr Chr15topher]

Crazed Weevil wrote...

One thing that struck me about the blog post is the point about telling friends to go and buy the game...seems they are worried about the influence of people who have finished the ending telling others not to bother and looking at the fall in prices and fall in the charts I'd say that it already having an effect. Also shows how little influence those 75 'critics' had as well...

Some might say its having a mass effect 

[Akodoreign]

I have multiple copies of this game at my house (due to having kids who want to play it same time daddy does) My personal copy is going back to gamestop. It is the only way I can emphasize my displeasure. and it lets them keep their artistic values.

[Crellis]

http://news.softpedi...ms-260084.shtml

IS this real?


Holding the line tentatively

[Ampmaster]

Computim wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...

BuddhaGeek wrote...

Yatzhee has finally done Mass Effect 3 in Zero Punctuation.  Nothing really about the ending or Retake, but it made me giggle, nonetheless

http://www.escapistm...7-Mass-Effect-3 

He didn't get, that you can also date Kaidan as Maleshep.

He probably thought "Oh I can choose a guy or a girl crewmate... Sorry Kaiden, Ashley's cuter" and so never even saw those lines of dialog.

Yahtzee was... surprising today, I was really expecting him to tear into us

[naes1984]

Even if we are a vocal minority as a premise, is it really logical for a company to conclude that irritating 35% or 40% of their fans is a GOOD idea? Is fixing fixing the endings really going to alienate the alleged majority of fans who liked Red/Green/Blue? I don't think so. It seems that both Bioware's premise and conclusion is fatally flawed.

[chmarr]

Sassafrass23 wrote...

Hmmf future content? Like New weapons? Retake Omega? New multiplayer maps? Sorry bioware ill pass.

3 multiplayer DLC packs have been leaked, all of which were supposidly priced in the 800+MS points mark, each pack adds in 2 new chars 3 weapons and a couple of weapon mods, which from the leak says they need to be unlocked or require in game credits to unlock

[monima]

LTBK wrote...

monimakitten wrote...

what exactly is going on? Just got home

This.

Its a respones I suppose, but the word artistic worries me. Not sure what to think about this:?

[MysticBinary82]

Computim wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...

BuddhaGeek wrote...

Yatzhee has finally done Mass Effect 3 in Zero Punctuation.  Nothing really about the ending or Retake, but it made me giggle, nonetheless

http://www.escapistm...7-Mass-Effect-3 

He didn't get, that you can also date Kaidan as Maleshep.

He probably thought "Oh I can choose a guy or a girl crewmate... Sorry Kaiden, Ashley's cuter" and so never even saw those lines of dialog.

I always could relate to Kaidan, thats why I like him and that is why I am happy that Shep finaly can date him in ME3.

But isn't that the cool thing about Mass Effect. You always find a character you can relate to. And so everyone plays the game differently. That is what Bioware missed at the end.

[Mr Chr15topher]

monimakitten wrote...

LTBK wrote...

monimakitten wrote...

what exactly is going on? Just got home

This.

Its a respones I suppose, but the word artistic worries me. Not sure what to think about this:?

None of us are

[Fox544]

Well Yahtzee's vote is in. "It could have been worse". Figure thats about all we would get. http://www.escapistm...7-Mass-Effect-3

[Benirus]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

monimakitten wrote...

LTBK wrote...

monimakitten wrote...

what exactly is going on? Just got home

This.

Its a respones I suppose, but the word artistic worries me. Not sure what to think about this:?

None of us are

 True, I don't trust it either, but one thing is for certain. We should wait and see what happens, dont jump on it.

Hold the line.

[Computim]

Akodoreign wrote...

I have multiple copies of this game at my house (due to having kids who want to play it same time daddy does) My personal copy is going back to gamestop. It is the only way I can emphasize my displeasure. and it lets them keep their artistic values.

You bring up an excellent point... They're trying to maintain artistic integrity based off an artistically flawed ending... It's broken but we made it so we're leaving it.. however if someone else had screwed with our vision.. ohh we'd be angry and make them change it!  kotaku.com/5882185/bioware-to-patch-error+laden-mass-effect-novel-in-response-to-fan-uproar

I'd like to see some stats on who of those 75 critics actually FINISHED the entire game (especially with a Galactic Readiness over 3000)

[Tebjorn]

I hardly ever register to forums I read(there are quite few actually). And even if I do register to somewhere, I hardly ever post anything.

After been mentally gutted by that horrid excuse of an ending I have been feeling like crap over a week now. Been lurking here since then and hoping that the ending was just an error in space-time continuum. Sadly it wasn't.
Now there has been two PR approved statements from Bioware where they dont really say anything. So I decided actually post here and voice my support to you people!

Keep posting and discussion in civil tone!

PS. English is not my first language so forgive possible typos and bad grammar.

[ld1449]

Ok people now that Ray spoke we need to move the line. Start clarifying that you want the endings changed, or that you want MORE endings. Don't let them get away with simply EXPLAINING it. (Though if they really could they have an excellent bull****er on their team.)

Modifié par ld1449, 21 mars 2012 - 04:41 .

[BuddhaGeek]

 For me, the problem isn't just that the endings were bad.  For me, it's the fact that we were told that our actions up until that point would have an impact and didn't. Upon reading Dr. Ray's statement, I'm a bit concerned that that fact is being glossed over.

Closure is great and God knows I want to have it, but to have the reins tugged from my hands at the last second is the hardest part for me to accept.

[Kyria Nyriese]

Benirus wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

monimakitten wrote...

LTBK wrote...

monimakitten wrote...

what exactly is going on? Just got home

This.

Its a respones I suppose, but the word artistic worries me. Not sure what to think about this:?

None of us are

 True, I don't trust it either, but one thing is for certain. We should wait and see what happens, dont jump on it.

Hold the line.

Definitely taking it with a grain of salt.  I'll keep the flicker of hope alive with it, but I'm not holding my breath.

However I am HOLDING THE LINE!

[The Big Palooka]

Sacred Of the Grey Wardens wrote...

ajunta_ wrote...

Hey, guys, maybe we don't need to flood them now with tons of letters, but instead compose a collective letter signed by everyone willing, stating that we want new endings, not a clarification to the old ones?

I'd be up for this idea, it would really show them how many of us there are and maybe they'll see the the "few players" or "Minority" is far larger than they originally thought.

This.  However people think is the best way to present this idea, whether it be through a letter, a video message, whatever.

[Lwyn]

Fox544 wrote...

Well Yahtzee's vote is in. "It could have been worse". Figure thats about all we would get. http://www.escapistm...7-Mass-Effect-3

I guess it technically could've been worse.
Casper the Genocidal Ghost could've spoken in reverse esperanto.

[monima]

[quote]Benirus wrote...

[/quote] True, I don't trust it either, but one thing is for certain. We should wait and see what happens, dont jump on it.

Hold the line.

[/quote]

I know, I guess we just have to wait until april, then take it from there. Not that I am going anywhere

[Iucounou]

ld1449 wrote...

Ok people now that Ray spoke we need to move the line. Start clarifying that you want the endings changed, or that you want MORE endings. Don't let them get away with simply EXPLAINING it. (Though if they really could they have an excellent bull****er on their team.)

The explanation of the ending is simple...

[Alexraptor1]

This is not satisfactory!
Mr Muzyka is pretty much using corporate double-speak to say "we have no intention of changing the ending whatsoever, but we will release a DLC that expands on it further".

Keep the pressure on them!

[xPandax]

switzerland is back to hold the line!

did i miss something?

[Crazed Weevil]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Crazed Weevil wrote...

One thing that struck me about the blog post is the point about telling friends to go and buy the game...seems they are worried about the influence of people who have finished the ending telling others not to bother and looking at the fall in prices and fall in the charts I'd say that it already having an effect. Also shows how little influence those 75 'critics' had as well...

Some might say its having a mass effect 

Shoot him Smithers...quickly before he quibs again...