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[Huyna]

dw99027 wrote...

Did you really believe that Bioware would build up the Reapers to a mythical level only to have it all end like a certain Tom Cruise movie?

Well, they once allowed us to stop a wannabe god (not once, but twice, sorry)  and banish demon-prince.
And to have little happines for Shepp in the world devastated by Reapers is not a "happy ending". It's just and fair ending.

Modifié par Huyna, 01 mars 2012 - 11:15 .

[varterral]

If they allowed us to resurrect in ME2 I dont see why this is suddenly so shockingly unrealistic to expect.

Modifié par varterral, 01 mars 2012 - 11:14 .

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

varterral wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

It's not like you spend 3 games learning your squadmates and getting close to them, right?

It's also not like BioWare writers themselves used a kid you knew for a bit when leaving Earth to show you how personal it is.

When the ones you lose have faces you know, it has more impact.

[DavidGraham]

you wanna hear a joke ?

Mass Effect writer Mac Walters talks about the series and its use of science fiction, and tries to understand its wide appeal.

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1219568p1.html

he says that Star Trek had a big influence on him !!

Quote:

"And this is something I really thought about going into Mass Effect 3. If I can write this story in a way that it honours everything that all the players who had been in there before, honours everything they have done – all the decisions they have made – but at the same time I wanted to introduce new players to this Universe, like the Star Trek movie did. So for me it was a big influence. We actually changed some of our narrative structure – the way that we actually write our dialogue – to emulate [the pace of Star Trek] in Mass Effect 3."

yeah right !!

[Maialeth]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

varterral wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

It's not like you spend 3 games learning your squadmates and getting close to them, right?

It's also not like BioWare writers themselves used a kid you knew for a bit when leaving Earth to show you how personal it is.

When the ones you lose have faces you know, it has more impact.

It's. not. About. squadmates. not. dying. It's about the way it's handled at the end. It's about.. No matter what you do, If shep lives. He is forever separated from his crew. They're all going to die anyway stranded on a deserted planet with no ship and no Relays... Why the hell couldn't they all be stranded together in at least /one/ of the damn endings that are all just slight variations of the other? I think That's all that most are asking for.

sorry if I misread what you were trying to say.. It's early/late.

Modifié par Maialeth, 01 mars 2012 - 11:28 .

[varterral]

If I had the option to keel over and die and let the reapers win I'd take that right now, because Shepard doesnt deserve this. I mean he gets vaporised or liquefied in 2 of the 3 endings.

[chickenNstrawberries]

I've made about three Sheps myself, and ran through the games multiple times with each. I did that because I wanted to see what all of my different choices would mean later. Wasn't that one of the main selling points of the games? But all of these endings are basically the same. That, to me, is what sucks.

[varterral]

Maialeth wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

varterral wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

It's not like you spend 3 games learning your squadmates and getting close to them, right?

It's also not like BioWare writers themselves used a kid you knew for a bit when leaving Earth to show you how personal it is.

When the ones you lose have faces you know, it has more impact.

It's. not. About. squadmates. not. dying. It's about the way it's handled at the end. It's about.. No matter what you do, If shep lives. He is forever separated from his crew. They're all going to die anyway stranded on a deserted planet with no ship and no Relays... Why the hell couldn't they all be stranded together in at least /one/ of the damn endings that are all just slight variations of the other? I think That's all that most are asking for.

Well put.

[CrashTagger]

I think the ending fits finely to the universe. Not that I like it, absolutely not. But it fits. The Mass Effect universe has always been dark, and to be honest, I expected something like this to be the ending to the trilogy, but just not this far-fetched. Also, I doubt Shepard could have any personal happiness from this point on, with all he's witnessed. Do you want a nonsensical Gears of War 3 ending all over again? I know I'd bash my head against the wall if I saw something like that in Mass Effect 3's ending.

As people said, this leaves very little to be done in future Mass Effect titles, and we all know they can't and won't kill the franchise like this. It'd be stupid from both of them. And "boycott BioWare products"? Really? They're free to do what they want, they're a corporation. Deal with it. They want and have to make money to stay afloat. Boycotting them could result in EA stopping publishing BioWare games, and BioWare suffering income losses. What would that result to? Let me guess... people losing their jobs? They have to surpass an amount of income before it becomes "profit". They first have to cover production costs - which will be high, considering Mass Effect's production values. Applause, boycotting them would be a grand idea.

Modifié par CrashTagger, 01 mars 2012 - 11:34 .

[kingsims]

Star trek RPG with mass effect choices could be totally cool. Id buy it.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Maialeth wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

varterral wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

It's not like you spend 3 games learning your squadmates and getting close to them, right?

It's also not like BioWare writers themselves used a kid you knew for a bit when leaving Earth to show you how personal it is.

When the ones you lose have faces you know, it has more impact.

It's. not. About. squadmates. not. dying. It's about the way it's handled at the end. It's about.. No matter what you do, If shep lives. He is forever separated from his crew. They're all going to die anyway stranded on a deserted planet with no ship and no Relays... Why the hell couldn't they all be stranded together in at least /one/ of the damn endings that are all just slight variations of the other? I think That's all that most are asking for.

sorry if I misread what you were trying to say.. It's early/late.

I was replying to varterral. You've probably missed all the times I said I'd prefer to have Shepard and the Normandy crew together like you say.

Edit: Damn, I also read the final line too late.

Modifié par Ghost Rider LSOV, 01 mars 2012 - 11:34 .

[Spooky223]

I didn't mind DLC or ORIGIN - which a lot of people complaint - but I want at least one ending like my femShep saying at LoSB "Marriage, old age and bunch of little blue children." Maybe I'm naïve but one happy-end/whateverecallit won't kill them. They're saying "U will have alotta choices which crucial influence game/end" I just hope that doesn't mean "U can choice if die Shepard or crew = reaper lose or everyone die = reapers win". It will be lame. And it will be fun watch storm/rage/totallyfreakingflame on BSN.

I have pre-ordered Collector edition and I hope that won't be last BW game I bought.

[Maialeth]

When the supposed 'best' ending has Shep stranded on his own, and his crew (for many which will include team dextro, who even if there were food they couldn't eat it) stranded on some unknown planet, that to me is the worst. The space magic Merge ending seems better than /that/ one, cause at least then.. they may be able to survive, even if Shep is dead, even if there's no way to explain how the hell it happened. So.. As I said before. And with all the grimdark, forever alone endings they gave us.. They don't even have the decency for a ME2 esque fail ending, where the Reapers win? Yeah.. It's a big ol FU to the fans.

[dw99027]

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

You answered your own question. Billions dead, yet your friends have to be the ones that survive... makes sense... in Hollywood.

Well, they once allowed us to stop a wannabe god (not once, but twice, sorry)  and banish demon-prince.

Which is why it's called a 'high-fantasy' setting, with no fictional historical connection to present day Earth. As opposed to ME.

And to have little happines for Shepp in the world devastated by Reapers is not a "happy ending". It's just and fair ending.

Believe me, I get where you're coming from. But with the amount of destruction we're about to see, simply put any tempt to instill some 'reprieve' would feel tacked on. While I totally undestand people who mostly enjoyed ME for its rich interactions , thre are some like me who viewed those interactions as a brilliant side dish to a great yet ominous story about mortalkind versus a terrifying and projected as invincible enemy. Call us inconsiderate or cold or anything, but the culmination should be about that battle above all else.

[Elite Midget]

Maialeth wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

varterral wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

It's not like you spend 3 games learning your squadmates and getting close to them, right?

It's also not like BioWare writers themselves used a kid you knew for a bit when leaving Earth to show you how personal it is.

When the ones you lose have faces you know, it has more impact.

It's. not. About. squadmates. not. dying. It's about the way it's handled at the end. It's about.. No matter what you do, If shep lives. He is forever separated from his crew. They're all going to die anyway stranded on a deserted planet with no ship and no Relays... Why the hell couldn't they all be stranded together in at least /one/ of the damn endings that are all just slight variations of the other? I think That's all that most are asking for.

sorry if I misread what you were trying to say.. It's early/late.

Because Bioware doesn't believe you deserve nice things, apparantly.

First DAII, than SWTOR, and now ME3? Bioware what happened to you? Was it EA? Or have you forgotten the fundamentals that brought you to your golden age? It seems to me that such an age is quickly passing us by.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 01 mars 2012 - 11:38 .

[Maialeth]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Maialeth wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

varterral wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

It's not like you spend 3 games learning your squadmates and getting close to them, right?

It's also not like BioWare writers themselves used a kid you knew for a bit when leaving Earth to show you how personal it is.

When the ones you lose have faces you know, it has more impact.

It's. not. About. squadmates. not. dying. It's about the way it's handled at the end. It's about.. No matter what you do, If shep lives. He is forever separated from his crew. They're all going to die anyway stranded on a deserted planet with no ship and no Relays... Why the hell couldn't they all be stranded together in at least /one/ of the damn endings that are all just slight variations of the other? I think That's all that most are asking for.

sorry if I misread what you were trying to say.. It's early/late.

I was replying to varterral. You've probably missed all the times I said I'd prefer to have Shepard and the Normandy crew together like you say.

Edit: Damn, I also read the final line too late.

I added it a moment after I hit submit.. cause.. I realized that I think you were the one I was agreeing with about Shep and the ship stranded together. So you may have caught it before I added it.   I'm just getting so tired of the few that for who knows what reason seem to like these endings.. Jumping onto the.. oh if you don't like them you must be demanding that they change everything to Disney, froofroo bunny hearts and candy endings.

[Elite Midget]

Maialeth wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Maialeth wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

varterral wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

It's not like you spend 3 games learning your squadmates and getting close to them, right?

It's also not like BioWare writers themselves used a kid you knew for a bit when leaving Earth to show you how personal it is.

When the ones you lose have faces you know, it has more impact.

It's. not. About. squadmates. not. dying. It's about the way it's handled at the end. It's about.. No matter what you do, If shep lives. He is forever separated from his crew. They're all going to die anyway stranded on a deserted planet with no ship and no Relays... Why the hell couldn't they all be stranded together in at least /one/ of the damn endings that are all just slight variations of the other? I think That's all that most are asking for.

sorry if I misread what you were trying to say.. It's early/late.

I was replying to varterral. You've probably missed all the times I said I'd prefer to have Shepard and the Normandy crew together like you say.

Edit: Damn, I also read the final line too late.

I added it a moment after I hit submit.. cause.. I realized that I think you were the one I was agreeing with about Shep and the ship stranded together. So you may have caught it before I added it.   I'm just getting so tired of the few that for who knows what reason seem to like these endings.. Jumping onto the.. oh if you don't like them you must be demanding that they change everything to Disney, froofroo bunny hearts and candy endings.

Don't try and understand, some people just enjoy feeding off the despair of others or bait them into fight for no other reasons than their own personal amusement.

[varterral]

dw99027 wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

You answered your own question. Billions dead, yet your friends have to be the ones that survive... makes sense... in Hollywood.

Well, they once allowed us to stop a wannabe god (not once, but twice, sorry)  and banish demon-prince.

Which is why it's called a 'high-fantasy' setting, with no fictional historical connection to present day Earth. As opposed to ME.

And to have little happines for Shepp in the world devastated by Reapers is not a "happy ending". It's just and fair ending.

Believe me, I get where you're coming from. But with the amount of destruction we're about to see, simply put any tempt to instill some 'reprieve' would feel tacked on. While I totally undestand people who mostly enjoyed ME for its rich interactions , thre are some like me who viewed those interactions as a brilliant side dish to a great yet ominous story about mortalkind versus a terrifying and projected as invincible enemy. Call us inconsiderate or cold or anything, but the culmination should be about that battle above all else.

I still hate the endings but thank you for posting a logical and fair response instead of going with the "This isnt disney you dont get unicorns and gumdrop trees" sort of troll post.

[shimpt]

Elite Midget wrote...

Maialeth wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Maialeth wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

varterral wrote...

So expecting 2 or 3 of your closest friends to survive when billions of people and entire star systemshave been destroyed suddenly makes the ending go from dark and realistic to a Tom Cruise movie? Ya I see the logic there.

It's not like you spend 3 games learning your squadmates and getting close to them, right?

It's also not like BioWare writers themselves used a kid you knew for a bit when leaving Earth to show you how personal it is.

When the ones you lose have faces you know, it has more impact.

It's. not. About. squadmates. not. dying. It's about the way it's handled at the end. It's about.. No matter what you do, If shep lives. He is forever separated from his crew. They're all going to die anyway stranded on a deserted planet with no ship and no Relays... Why the hell couldn't they all be stranded together in at least /one/ of the damn endings that are all just slight variations of the other? I think That's all that most are asking for.

sorry if I misread what you were trying to say.. It's early/late.

I was replying to varterral. You've probably missed all the times I said I'd prefer to have Shepard and the Normandy crew together like you say.

Edit: Damn, I also read the final line too late.

I added it a moment after I hit submit.. cause.. I realized that I think you were the one I was agreeing with about Shep and the ship stranded together. So you may have caught it before I added it.   I'm just getting so tired of the few that for who knows what reason seem to like these endings.. Jumping onto the.. oh if you don't like them you must be demanding that they change everything to Disney, froofroo bunny hearts and candy endings.

Don't try and understand, some people just enjoy feeding off the despair of others or bait them into fight for no other reasons than their own personal amusement.

welcome to the internet

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Elite Midget wrote...
Don't try and understand, some people just enjoy feeding off the despair of others or bait them into fight for no other reasons than their own personal amusement.

Yeah. At least it has been quite a few pages since the last "those delicious tears" from such people.

I still want to know if 100% readiness can make a difference and if it is indeed achievable through multiplayer or just singleplayer.

Because having the numbers for assets and such gives you the ending, but wouldn't having all (well, the number you need for best) assets and 100% readiness give you something different?

But the problem then is, how will the Normandy get back to Earth (isn't that where they said he survives?).
And if it stops with the breathing video, how do people know he's on Earth? Things are still missing, right?

[Perkocet13]

[/quote]

Because Bioware doesn't believe you deserve nice things, apparantly.

First DAII, than SWTOR, and now ME3? Bioware what happened to you? Was it EA? Or have you forgotten the fundamentals that brought you to your golden age? It seems to me that such an age is quickly passing us by.

[/quote]

you can't forget ea sports titles like madden and nhl both of the titles are horrid, especially madden

[CerberusSoldier]

CrashTagger wrote...

I think the ending fits finely to the universe. Not that I like it, absolutely not. But it fits. The Mass Effect universe has always been dark, and to be honest, I expected something like this to be the ending to the trilogy, but just not this far-fetched. Also, I doubt Shepard could have any personal happiness from this point on, with all he's witnessed. Do you want a nonsensical Gears of War 3 ending all over again? I know I'd bash my head against the wall if I saw something like that in Mass Effect 3's ending.

As people said, this leaves very little to be done in future Mass Effect titles, and we all know they can't and won't kill the franchise like this. It'd be stupid from both of them. And "boycott BioWare products"? Really? They're free to do what they want, they're a corporation. Deal with it. They want and have to make money to stay afloat. Boycotting them could result in EA stopping publishing BioWare games, and BioWare suffering income losses. What would that result to? Let me guess... people losing their jobs? They have to surpass an amount of income before it becomes "profit". They first have to cover production costs - which will be high, considering Mass Effect's production values. Applause, boycotting them would be a grand idea.

   



wait in Gears 3 it ended and the war was over it was a awesome ending . In this game there is no point in even playing when you know you are staring death in the face

[turian councilor Knockout]

About the stranded ending, i hope we can avoid it through unlocking a survival pack in multiplayer or dats what i've heard atleast so it's not over guys 

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 01 mars 2012 - 11:46 .

[Mhgasa]

I mostly dislike the fact that the epilogue seems totally unexplained. you dont get any hints as to what the galaxy looks like based on your decisions, so what was the point of making all those choices along the way? We are only left with speculation and over analyzation of the few things we do know.
I dont mind the endings themselves, but i hate their implementation. For at story that was supposed to have no loose ends, it seems like the exact opposite is true. There are more questions than ever!

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

About the stranded ending, i hope we can avoid it through unlocking a survival pack in multiplayer or dats what i've heard atleast so it's not over guys 

You're trolling...

Modifié par Ghost Rider LSOV, 01 mars 2012 - 11:48 .