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[donmaciu]

Robhuzz wrote...

Ah yeah true. A 40KM long space station weighing several billion tons just crashed on London. Hmm...

I wonder about that... If Citadel fell wouldn't the landing site be somewhene on the Atlantic ocean due to earth rotation?

Modifié par donmaciu, 21 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[TamiBx]

 Wait...is it just me or does this sound like they're just going to release some little video explaining the ending or something...?  

[Conspicuous Cake]

ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...

Whats the news?

This.

[FinalEndeavor]

spacefiddle wrote...

I like the tone of his reply to us, but the content is largely unchanged. The time frame is narrowed to April, which is nice. But it still ends with a "trust us." We did. We trusted you a lot. That's how we got here. I trusted you enough to preorder the CE. I think you already had and lost my trust; it needs to be earned back now.

I appreciate the voluntary statement and the commitment to April. However, if there are still NO details or hard facts about what is to come, before the return window ends... I will be hard-pressed not to feel that it is in my own best interests to take advantage of that window, rather than risk being made a fool of twice.

It seems odd that we'd be asked to wait a little more with no details, then end the return window right before releasing info. Alternately, I would be open to extending the return window PAST the next announcement. That would be a concrete gesture of good faith, and less like a bait'n'switch.

I want to reiterate, though, that I believe every sentiment the Doc expresses is genuine, and they're still trying to wrap their heads around what just happened. I think with a little more time, and being able to really step back and examine the criticisms.... uh, critically... they will see what we see, and understand that it doesn't mean we think they're bad people or that they haven't crafted an otherwise amazing story.

I Agree with you. His words about being shocked or dissapointed and hurt that we and lots of gamers feel the ending wasn't a great end to the triology are true. It has to be very hard for all of them. Now we just see what will be done from here.

Hold the Line!!

April is comming!!

[TSC_1]

TamiBx wrote...

 Wait, wht's going on? 

*I just came back from class....like literally 2min ago*

Also, after you read the statement, go ahead and vote in this poll.

[Pipe 42]

Gonna have to join in again, artistic integrity isn't immutable.

When something has gone wrong and is so readily apparent to so many people, you'd be much better off holding your hands up and saying, "You're right, we'll sort this."

Whilst I understand this bunker mentality, it's hurting their core fanbase. As many have said, some people have no idea this movement even exists. They've seen the end of the game, one "huh" and moved on. Maybe they'll return to new games and franchises but aren't a guarantee.

Now I'm not saying they should change things just to please us but we are the ones they could most count on. When times are tough and money is tight, who's more likely to lay out £60 for a video game, casual players wh have finished the game once and moved on, or us? We who have multiple saves and keep an eye out for the latest developments from our favourite studios, be they Valve, Bioware or even Team 17?

Having read the blog post I do understand what they are trying to do but it does read as quite an insulting letter to your fans. What would have been so difficult to say some people wanted more, we're working on things to that end? Still not a gurantee of endiing DLC but doesn't feel like a pat on the head from a weary dog owner.

I'm also very pleased with Forbes during all this, articulating these thoughts for us in a much more concise mannner. Given the number of articles that have been in this magazine already after such a short time frame, I'd have thought Bioware would be showing that they are aware of what's going on. They aren't just in the gaming magazines now, even big buisiness mags are commenting on this. Not acknowledging this cannot be something they ca maintain. They may be able to ignore Gamesradar for example, but The BBC, Forbes, The Guardian... These are all much more powerful corporations than even the biggest gaming website. Surely some comment to these people are necessary at this point?

Holding the line,
Pipe 42

[Caelorummors]

TamiBx wrote...

 Wait...is it just me or does this sound like they're just going to release some little video explaining the ending or something...?  

Of course. You will not get what you want. These endings are the endings. Holding the line will never gain you any ground.

[TamiBx]

TSC_1 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Wait, wht's going on? 

*I just came back from class....like literally 2min ago*

Also, after you read the statement, go ahead and vote in this poll.

I did. Thank you 

[Darth Garrus]

I think it was a good thing to hear from Dr. Muzyka. It's a good sign, even if it doesn't make anything official.

I just hope BW doesn't listen to the likes of those defending the "artistic freedom" straw-man fallacy. Nobody makes a shooter, aiming to sell a gazillion copies, to say later that it was art and can't be fixed.

Feel free to make "artsy games" if you like. Sell them hoping to make a decent living and enjoying artistic freedom. Nothing wrong with that. But that's not what BW is, and that's no excuse for every game developer.

So, don't expect me to believe in this poor excuse for an evasion.

[Alikan]

http://angryjoeshow....me3-ending-dlc/

Might have been posted already, abit hard to follow the thread at times.

07:35 for epicness.

[Computim]

Caelorummors wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Wait...is it just me or does this sound like they're just going to release some little video explaining the ending or something...?  

Of course. You will not get what you want. These endings are the endings. Holding the line will never gain you any ground.

That's why we have infiltrators in their ranks.

*cough*MarauderShields*cough*

[KaiserinKai]

spacefiddle wrote...

I like the tone of his reply to us, but the content is largely unchanged. The time frame is narrowed to April, which is nice. But it still ends with a "trust us." We did. We trusted you a lot. That's how we got here. I trusted you enough to preorder the CE. I think you already had and lost my trust; it needs to be earned back now.

I appreciate the voluntary statement and the commitment to April. However, if there are still NO details or hard facts about what is to come, before the return window ends... I will be hard-pressed not to feel that it is in my own best interests to take advantage of that window, rather than risk being made a fool of twice.

Like I've said before about the trust thing, we trusted that they would give us the endings and closure they promised. They lied.

Trust is far easier to break than it is to gain. They have broken our trust. Now they have to earn it back.

Modifié par KaiserinKai, 21 mars 2012 - 06:53 .

[Green man5490]

I'm just amazed at the amount of hate we're getting from other gamers ranging from calling us whiney entitled babies, pathetic geeks, and other things that don't need to be repeated it just seems uncalled for

[TSC_1]

TamiBx wrote...

I did. Thank you 

Cheers. I just want to make sure that Bioware knows what we do and do not find acceptable.

[DJBare]

Green man5490 wrote...

I'm just amazed at the amount of hate we're getting from other gamers ranging from calling us whiney entitled babies, pathetic geeks, and other things that don't need to be repeated it just seems uncalled for

It's called baiting, if there was in sincerity in their words I might sweat, just a little.

[PrinceHamlet82]

I would say we just need to be patient and wait and give them a chance to say something. They want to wait till April for whatever reason, let them. Hopefully it will turn out the way we want, I struggle to believe that even with artistic integrity, that was how they themselves wanted to end it, hence why I hold to the belief there is more planned and the reports are otherwise are simply delaying the information, time will tell.

[Geda173]

I'm sad that the offical statement did not explain the biggest plot hole of the whole game: How did the space hamster survive the disassemblement and reassemblement of the Normandy? I mean, that little thing is running around in my ship...how? Space magic?

[Computim]

Green man5490 wrote...

I'm just amazed at the amount of hate we're getting from other gamers ranging from calling us whiney entitled babies, pathetic geeks, and other things that don't need to be repeated it just seems uncalled for

Don't let it get to you.  Couple of my friends have the same attitudes..  just explain to them that you're an upset customer.. if you bought a ferrari you wouldn't expect to get a ford because Ferrari has a reputation, and it's not whining and entitled to complain to Ferrari that you didn't want a Focus, you wanted an F430.

[Ohpus]

Benirus wrote...

Prince Lex wrote...

YES THERE IS SOMETHING NEW!!!

Co-Founder of Bioware makes an official statement.

Ok, I've been very carfull with my words so far, but that is bull****.

It's like talking to a child... "Uh-uh, but everyone said we did good with the rest of the game so I don't really care"

He constantly deflects the criticism with pointing to the good things "But hey, I know that last part was soulcrushing and made people clinicly depressed, but look at the total score! :wizard:"

Hold the line people, I got the feeling this statement is purely to gain support from people who don't know or understand what the fuss is about.

All the teacher's daddy EA paid off gave us good marks, so I have to be funny, creative and smart.

Honestly, can't someone just suck it up and say "mea cupla"?

[Aiden_Cora]

Green man5490 wrote...

I'm just amazed at the amount of hate we're getting from other gamers ranging from calling us whiney entitled babies, pathetic geeks, and other things that don't need to be repeated it just seems uncalled for

Well I might be a geek and all, but at the same time I'm a sensual person. Many scenes in ME 3 touched me deeply, like for example making a recording for posterity with my Liara.

[TamiBx]

TSC_1 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

I did. Thank you 

Cheers. I just want to make sure that Bioware knows what we do and do not find acceptable.

Yeah, I don't want a little video explaining the ending or something along those lines. No matter what they say, if I can't play it, it doesn't count. 

[Generic Name]

Green man5490 wrote...

I'm just amazed at the amount of hate we're getting from other gamers ranging from calling us whiney entitled babies, pathetic geeks, and other things that don't need to be repeated it just seems uncalled for

Not to sound rude, but have you ever played an online FPS game? Your skin thickens quickly.

I actually had a vivid dream about Liara last night. It made no sense and I'm fairly certain her Shadow Broker predecessor was involved.

Modifié par Generic Name, 21 mars 2012 - 06:58 .

[Valk72]

KaiserinKai wrote...
Like I've said before about the trust thing, we trusted that they would give us the endings and closure they promised. They lied.

Trust is far easier to break than it is to gain. They have broken our trust. Now they have to earn it back.

Too bad i don't plan to give my trust to BW anymore.

[Geda173]

Generic Name wrote...

Green man5490 wrote...

I'm just amazed at the amount of hate we're getting from other gamers ranging from calling us whiney entitled babies, pathetic geeks, and other things that don't need to be repeated it just seems uncalled for

Not to sound rude, but have you ever played a FPS game? Your skin thickens quickly.

The amount of people that had sex with my mother are very high.

[MetalCargo999]

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

They torch the series, then try to talk about artistic integrity?  Bioware.... you made an artistic error!  a continuity error to be more specific.  If a painter was painting a beautiful painting and made a mistake, he's not just gonna leave it, even if he needs someone else to point it out for him!  When an artist of the culinary arts makes a mistake and nobody likes his food, does he say, "NO! I can't change my recipe!  It's an art form!"  No he doesn't, even if he tried hard and feels bad!  We're saying fix the ending because it's broken!  It is actually bad art.

Last night I tried to go through a second playthrough of the game, and halfway through the Mars mission all of my energy was just sucked out of me.  It really is ruined!  Consider our feedback seriously!