Aller au contenu

Photo

So we can't get the ending we want after all?


101103 réponses à ce sujet

#53001
Mara Shep

Mara Shep
  • Members
  • 283 messages
Has no one seen this? 

"Building on their research, Exec Producer
Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content
initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity
for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on
this in April.  We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between
the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan
feedback we’ve received.  This is in addition to our existing plan to
continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest
assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will,
continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

Sorry, just found the thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/10385152

Modifié par Mara Shep, 21 mars 2012 - 07:47 .


#53002
NeverQuiteAwake

NeverQuiteAwake
  • Members
  • 330 messages

Prince Lex wrote...

My personal stance on the ending:

I want them to use the indoctrination theory to offer an alternative, or offer a few more options if the conversation with godchild has to stay. I don't see them completely rewriting what's already there, and quite frankly I don't think that's the best way to approach it.

From "the Doctor"'s last statement, it sounded like they're adding additional scenes following the endings we currently have, and although the main priority is closure for our characters, we really need to press the point that what we want to see is that our choices matter, and not to be left with the current total mess.


Agreed. No closure or explanation is going to fix the massive plot holes and nonsense presented by the Catalyst. Right now, the best way to do so would be to "wipe the slate clean" as it were. By making it a hallucination/indoctrination attempt, it would be easier to implement the indoctrination theory rather than just to rewrite the ending.

Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 21 mars 2012 - 07:47 .


#53003
FinalEndeavor

FinalEndeavor
  • Members
  • 260 messages
As a reminder there is no confirmation to Patrick(Bioware Writer) post is real. I believe the original post said the comment was removed shortly after it was posted on reddit. Please be civil if discussing it because there is no proof that this is genuine

#53004
XTiferethX

XTiferethX
  • Members
  • 73 messages
Hold the line as long as it takes

#53005
The Big Palooka

The Big Palooka
  • Members
  • 175 messages

Mulberry wrote...

http://www.reddit.co..._dr_ray_muzyka/
Patrick Weekes (bioware writer) posted this on Penny Arcade and then deleted it:

[snip]


Important if true.  I'd love to believe it is.

I'm awfully skeptical about its origins, though.

#53006
Eadric

Eadric
  • Members
  • 24 messages

Computim wrote...

Well HERE'S irony.  The Electronic Consumers Association (www.theeca.com)  of which Electronic Arts is a partner, is asking the following:

"So how do you feel about Biowares decision to create a new ending to Mass Effect 3?"

http://www.facebook...._reply#!/TheECA

-- Shoulda been a bit more ambiguous with your press releases Bioware *snickers*


Heh, that is funny.  I don't think the phrasing there necessarily means anything, but it is amusing.

#53007
Ghaleon

Ghaleon
  • Members
  • 243 messages
To all those fighting to get the ending fixed, do not lose hope we can do this your morale may be low but i can tell you. Even through they do not post droves of people i have talked to in other games and real life support our cause.

We all knew this wouldn't be easy or fast and that groups like IGNs editors etc would attack us and our cause but remember stay civil get our point across and never give up we can do this.
Stand Fast, Stand Strong, Stand Together and most importantly Hold The Line!

#53008
firstarioch

firstarioch
  • Members
  • 708 messages
From Ray's statement it looks like we on the right track here.
But lets not stop what we doing here.
In fact now its The time to intensify the whole campaign.
I will go for even more media now.
Everyone hold the line! !!

#53009
TamiBx

TamiBx
  • Members
  • 3 150 messages

Lord Costantino wrote...


^this! The endings were terrible and they NEED TO STOP saying art...it's art if the public says it's art and the ending was far from that. The ending would have Vincent Van Gogh question himself even more about being an artist; if he had seen it. <_< Art is a perspective given by the public eye...


Honestly, video games are not Picasso paintings. I don't want an "artistic" ending; I just want multiple endings that I can pick from. <_<

#53010
Computim

Computim
  • Members
  • 2 044 messages
So uh.. I decided we needed our own PR expert to run this campaign... went out and hired Karl Rove.. he made me sign all the contracts in blood for some reason... but hey, we've already seen the results today!

#53011
mulder1199

mulder1199
  • Members
  • 1 226 messages

Mara Shep wrote...

Has no one seen this? 

"Building on their research, Exec Producer
Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content
initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity
for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on
this in April.  We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between
the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan
feedback we’ve received.  This is in addition to our existing plan to
continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest
assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will,
continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

Sorry, just found the thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/10385152


yeah, most have, and most don't want the bad endings explained away.....another ending and close up the plot holes with some gameplay!

#53012
mulder1199

mulder1199
  • Members
  • 1 226 messages

TamiBx wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...


^this! The endings were terrible and they NEED TO STOP saying art...it's art if the public says it's art and the ending was far from that. The ending would have Vincent Van Gogh question himself even more about being an artist; if he had seen it. <_< Art is a perspective given by the public eye...


Honestly, video games are not Picasso paintings. I don't want an "artistic" ending; I just want multiple endings that I can pick from. <_<

i bet van gogh would give his other ear for the 'good ending'

#53013
Prince Lex

Prince Lex
  • Members
  • 148 messages
IGN have just covered it in an article. I'd link to it but I now genuinely hate everything about IGN and don't want to justify their site with traffic.

If you're interested, it's on their facebook page.

#53014
mulder1199

mulder1199
  • Members
  • 1 226 messages

firstarioch wrote...

From Ray's statement it looks like we on the right track here.
But lets not stop what we doing here.
In fact now its The time to intensify the whole campaign.
I will go for even more media now.
Everyone hold the line! !!


given the connections you have, it would be great if they know we just don't want the crap ending explained away....

#53015
Lord Costantino

Lord Costantino
  • Members
  • 558 messages
@TamiBx 

Exactly! This is why I added you to my friends list lol :lol: I even put that in my letter to Bioware, regarding the whole "art" defense.

#53016
TamiBx

TamiBx
  • Members
  • 3 150 messages

mulder1199 wrote...

firstarioch wrote...

From Ray's statement it looks like we on the right track here.
But lets not stop what we doing here.
In fact now its The time to intensify the whole campaign.
I will go for even more media now.
Everyone hold the line! !!


given the connections you have, it would be great if they know we just don't want the crap ending explained away....


We want the choices we were promised, not just an explanation on colorful endings. 

#53017
-PG-Skyre

-PG-Skyre
  • Members
  • 691 messages
"Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@socrates92 Both Casey and Ray's statements say we will release additional content to address questions, not necessarily alter anything."

2hrs ago on the Mass Effect twitter account.

#53018
mulder1199

mulder1199
  • Members
  • 1 226 messages
we don't need your education, we don't need your thought control.....


we need a few more endings that also close up plot holes

hold the line

#53019
Lord Costantino

Lord Costantino
  • Members
  • 558 messages
@mulder1199

[/quote]
i bet van gogh would give his other ear for the 'good ending'[/quote]

this link is for you

http://i0.kym-cdn.co...did there 2.png

#53020
Prince Lex

Prince Lex
  • Members
  • 148 messages
We need a better ending. Not more scenes from the same crappy one!

#53021
Kaidan Fan

Kaidan Fan
  • Members
  • 2 556 messages

Mara Shep wrote...

Has no one seen this? 

"Building on their research, Exec Producer
Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content
initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity
for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on
this in April.  We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between
the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan
feedback we’ve received.  This is in addition to our existing plan to
continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest
assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will,
continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

Sorry, just found the thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/10385152


I don't need more clarity or further closure.  I would like an ending that: 1) makes sense.  2) Provides options/choices and 3) Doesn't have my Shepard acting OOC. 

Their true original story that they were building up in the first two games was fine and the endings to that made more sense than this "artistic" stuff we got for ME3.

I'm also sick of seeing people who are fine with the ending bash people who don't like the ending.

I mostly "hold the line" silently, but I've been with this thread since the beginning and will stick it out with you guys.

#53022
nitefyre410

nitefyre410
  • Members
  • 8 944 messages

Prince Lex wrote...

WARNING: OPINIONATED ^_^

If that's true, my faith in Patrick is intact and he has my sincerest sympathies for what the end must have put him through. I think it's clear it was Casey's idea from the "MUCH SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE" side of things though.

In fact, even if it's not true, the abomination we're left with is Casey's idea no matter what way you look at it. Not trying to be rude or uncivil, that's just a cold hard fact.

As it stands, I'm pleased by the way things are going so far. Still holding the line for as long as it takes, but it certainly feels like we are having an impact.

My personal stance on the ending:

I want them to use the indoctrination theory to offer an alternative, or offer a few more options if the conversation with godchild has to stay. I don't see them completely rewriting what's already there, and quite frankly I don't think that's the best way to approach it.

From "the Doctor"'s last statement, it sounded like they're adding additional scenes following the endings we currently have, and although the main priority is closure for our characters, we really need to press the point that what we want to see is that our choices matter, and not to be left with the current total mess.

 


I find that supposed post  by Weekes very interesting  in its  timing and tone.   If it  is  true and I mean if,   Then sometime between I would say Monday and Muyzka statement there had to be come kind of meeting or  meetings where peoples feet were put to the fire and  jobs my be one the line.   I could be wrong but that just a gut feeling... no way  it can proven but the timing of the post is just very interesting.. .to say the least.   

#53023
WaffleCrab

WaffleCrab
  • Members
  • 3 027 messages
Gotta love how they do the "its all destructive criticism" defence... that is just lame bioware. Too lame to fly.

#53024
mulder1199

mulder1199
  • Members
  • 1 226 messages
[quote]Lord Costantino wrote...

@mulder1199

[/quote]
i bet van gogh would give his other ear for the 'good ending'[/quote]

this link is for you

http://i0.kym-cdn.co...did there 2.png[/quote]

nyucknyuck......

i don't want the end explained to me folks at ea/bw.....i want another CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!

#53025
TamiBx

TamiBx
  • Members
  • 3 150 messages
 If you don't want to go to IGN for coverage, there is an another article:

http://gamerant.com/...c-johnj-139277/