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[wook77]

If they can explain that pile of dreck, I'm all right with that. I don't see how they can merely explain but all I'm asking for is a complete product. Sure, I think the endings suck and I'm quite certain both that and BioWare's response will influence my buying choices in the future. But I just want a complete ending.

I'm curious HOW they're going to do it what with stupid spacekid and his stupid, merry band of huskateers but that's for them to decide in all their "artistic integrity" glory.

Hopefully, they'll add in the ability to tell spacekid to shove it where the stars don't shine. If they go the indoctrination route, I'm fine with that, too. Anything that gets us a complete product.

I think this is a good, medium path to take because even though everyone on this thread hates the ending, we all have a million and one ideas of what we'd like to see. They're not going to fit in each of our personal ones so if they take the route that fits the majority of requests, I'm all right with that, even if they aren't what I want to see (in this case, male shep with kaidan and garrus on a beach drinking Canadian lager and shooting the breeze). It seems to me that the major request seems to be for closure and clarity. We'll see how they get there and achieve that.

I'm just glad that they've now brought in the big guns to respond to customer concerns. Tells me that we're doing something right and that they finally see that we have a point. Plus, I also liked IGN having to write an article on how we've been "promised new endings". That was a nice little bit of lulz.

[Needsnewending]

The plot:

The Reapers use Shepard as a tool to bring the entire organic resistance to the Reapers for the harvest... brilliant plan Reapers!!! create a hero who is the "expert" on killing them, have EVERYONE follow him blindly with a "weapon" no one knows how to use or what it even does, the Reapers win.. THE END!

[TSC_1]

PurpleWhisper wrote...

'Art' doesn't always have to be depressing. Plenty of us love a good happy ending. Fiction is a great way to escape reality and my favourite thing about Mass Effect before the ME3 ending was how pumped and uplifted i always felt playing as Shepard.

See, that's the thing - people have been disparaging happy endings throughout this entire debacle. Know what? I want a happy ending where Shep lives and reunites with his/her crew and LI in a galaxy where the mass relays still exist. And I don't think there's a thing wrong with wanting that.

It isn't silly. It isn't non-artistic. It isn't childish. And it's sure as heck not unintellectual.

[KroganBillie]

Computim wrote...

Well HERE'S irony.  The Electronic Consumers Association (www.theeca.com)  of which Electronic Arts is a partner, is asking the following:

"So how do you feel about Biowares decision to create a new ending to Mass Effect 3?"

http://www.facebook...._reply#!/TheECA

-- Shoulda been a bit more ambiguous with your press releases Bioware *snickers*

*froths at mouth*

[g_bassi13]

I'm done with Bioware in the future. I'm just getting tired of their nonsense. I'll check in once in a while to see if they change their tone, but I can't be bothered enough to hold the line when this is all they can muster to answer us with. Maybe I'll be back to camping in this thread sooner then later, but as of now, my faith in Bioware to make a competent decision is at nil.

[RussianOrc]

Hold the line people!!
I can't write much right now(i'm on my Iphone) but i'm with you in spirit.
Make me proud, make yourself proud.
Keep up the good work.

Hackett out.

[Darth Garrus]

TamiBx wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...


^this! The endings were terrible and they NEED TO STOP saying art...it's art if the public says it's art and the ending was far from that. The ending would have Vincent Van Gogh question himself even more about being an artist; if he had seen it. <_< Art is a perspective given by the public eye...

Honestly, video games are not Picasso paintings. I don't want an "artistic" ending; I just want multiple endings that I can pick from. <_<

 


Yes. Like I said before. Go to your basement, and write your "artsy" game, and struggle to make a living. Perfectly fine. But don't release a multi-million dollar shooter project from a multi-billion dollar company, trying to make a gazillion dollars, and say it's art, and that's untouchable.

And people with absolutely no knowledge of art are talking about it. What it's funny is that most artists produced on demand. They were payed to produce something, and were always changing things according to the paying customer's wishes. You can name the painter, sculptor, whatever. That was usually the case. They can now hang on the wall of big galleries, but they were payed and changed according to the buyer.

Modifié par Darth Suetam, 21 mars 2012 - 08:08 .

[Lwyn]

I believe personally that if Shepard absolutely has to die in the end, it should happen with the possible LI. You know, closure and all that complicated stuff.(Did also post on the suggestion thread).

[Irishkev]

its just fancy PR talk for FU we aint changing are ending but what we will do is add a bit of text so you can understand it a bit better.

As all i got from the statment was We love what the mass effect team did for the ending it's really artistic. we know some don't like the ending

we are going to work with current content and explain the ending in april. You can take that as either they going to talk down to us and explain it or that don't know how to explain it that they need a few week to come up with a answer

[Voguul]

A new member of the Finnish fleet here.

Just finished the game about an hour ago. I knew about the RGB ending(s) even before I started my playthrough and I thought I was prepared for not being satisfied at the end of the game... but I was STILL infuriated and disappointed as I watched the scene with the godchild and everything.

And then the entire trilogy ends with the words "downloadable content"...

I appreciate everyone who has been active in this campaign for a better ending. I'm usually very shy online and not too good at defending my POV, but I'll keep voting on polls and giving my support however I can.

[TamiBx]

Lord Costantino wrote...

 @TamiBx

This is probably an accurate gif of you and me when we see the "art" excuse.

*edit*
whoelse is with us on that 

http://i19.photobuck...ros/30hvou8.gif

Hahaha, so true! 

Art...have I ever mentioned I've always hated art classes? <_<

[nrcrane]

Just curious, but does anyone know what "game content initiatives" means? To me it sounds like a fancy way to say they are in the process of starting to think about possibly doing something in the near to far future.

[Gi-Joe-Ge]

Voguul wrote...

A new member of the Finnish fleet here.

Welcome Voguul.

I know what you mean by being shy and not gong much to internet forums. I am actually the same type of personality. However we have a mission here and every contribution counts.

You are a good example to all lurkers here. Everyone who is only reading in this forum.

MAKE YOUR VOICES BEING HEARD AND JOIN OUR RANKS.

We can't let space magic win.

Modifié par Gi-Joe-Ge, 21 mars 2012 - 08:12 .

[FinalEndeavor]

nrcrane wrote...

Just curious, but does anyone know what "game content initiatives" means? To me it sounds like a fancy way to say they are in the process of starting to think about possibly doing something in the near to far future.

It is all just speculation at this point. All we know is that he said that something will be done to "clarify" things. Whether that is new endings added on or they just add things to make these endings along with the plot holes make sense. No one knows yet

[Lord Costantino]

TamiBx wrote...

Hahaha, so true! 

Art...have I ever mentioned I've always hated art classes? <_<

Same here...I love their explanations. "Art is free form" then turn around and give u a set of rules which NO ARTIST follows lol. We should make a video called "Vincent Van Gogh, from Doctor Who, sees Bioware calling Mass Effect 3 ending art" Then have that scene where hes crying in the musuem... SOLID GOLD right there. 

[Mythandariel]

nrcrane wrote...

Just curious, but does anyone know what "game content initiatives" means? To me it sounds like a fancy way to say they are in the process of starting to think about possibly doing something in the near to far future.

That's how I take it. They're carefully weighing their options. I think they are starting to realize that traditional PR tactics aren't working. Even worse, they're backfiring, big time.

Seriously rethinking the descision to sell yourselves to EA aren't you, Bioware?

[Jason76]

Hendrik.III wrote...

snip

Dear BioWare, we are Commander Shepard. We deserve to choose our own destiny.

^this whole posting, so much THIS!

Exactly why I care about this game, characters etc. Couldn't have said it better. You managed to write exactly what I've been thinking and feeling all this time. 

[J.Random]

nrcrane wrote...

Just curious, but does anyone know what "game content initiatives" means? To me it sounds like a fancy way to say they are in the process of starting to think about possibly doing something in the near to far future.

Nah, they just meet in their money vault, swim in money, drink some champaigne or beer and play The Witcher, that's all.

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[unclee]

If the Weekes post is true, then it would explain why the ending feels so divorced from the rest of the game.

Going to take it with a huuuuuuge grain of salt, but if true, would explain a lot about why the ending feels how it does.

[Kenkimaru]

Euw just came home.
Seems like things getting started? Lets see how thies "Ends"

Hold the Line

[Tibbur]

Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...

Voguul wrote...

A new member of the Finnish fleet here.

Welcome Voguul.

I know what you mean by being shy and not gong much to internet forums. I am actually the same type of personality. However we have a mission here and every contribution counts.

You are a good example to all lurkers here. Everyone who is only reading in this forum.

MAKE YOUR VOICES BEING HEARD AND JOIN OUR RANKS.

We can't let space magic win.

Same took me a while to jump in.

[Artemis_Fowl]

Darth Suetam wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
*snip*

Honestly, video games are not Picasso paintings. I don't want an "artistic" ending; I just want multiple endings that I can pick from. <_<

 


Yes. Like I said before. Go to your basement, and write your "artsy" game, and struggle to make a living. Perfectly fine. But don't release a multi-million dollar shooter project from a multi-billion dollar company, trying to make a gazillion dollars, and say it's art, and that's untouchable.
*Snip*

We are not only holding the line for the endings anymore. As far as I think we are holding this line for sake of games. Yes they might be called art, but they should be called art as games not art as part of movies or paintings or books. This is healthy progress(I don't think evolution is correct thing to say.. or is it?) there has been same kind of progress in every art genre. Movies have gone trough it from mute to with audio and from black&white to coloured.
Thanks for bearing with me with my thoughts.

[TamiBx]

Darth Suetam wrote...

Yes. Like I said before. Go to your basement, and write your "artsy" game, and struggle to make a living. Perfectly fine. But don't release a multi-million dollar shooter project from a multi-billion dollar company, trying to make a gazillion dollars, and say it's art, and that's untouchable.

And people with absolutely no knowledge of art are talking about it. What it's funny is that most artists produced on demand. They were payed to produce something, and were always changing things according to the paying customer's wishes. You can name the painter, sculptor, whatever. That was usually the case. They can now hang on the wall of big galleries, but they were payed and changed according to the buyer.

I agree. And honestly, most of the artists were never famous while they were alive...now you wonder why....

[Mhgasa]

Voguul wrote...

A new member of the Finnish fleet here.

Just finished the game about an hour ago. I knew about the RGB ending(s) even before I started my playthrough and I thought I was prepared for not being satisfied at the end of the game... but I was STILL infuriated and disappointed as I watched the scene with the godchild and everything.

And then the entire trilogy ends with the words "downloadable content"...

I appreciate everyone who has been active in this campaign for a better ending. I'm usually very shy online and not too good at defending my POV, but I'll keep voting on polls and giving my support however I can.

Welcome.  Seems like the endings have brought forth alot of people who normally wouldnt post, myself included