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So we can't get the ending we want after all?


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Mythandariel

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DJBare wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

If you wanted all of your problems solved in an ending, Disney makes plenty of movies that will fit your taste.

And how many disney movies have to watched that have plot holes big enough to fit an armada into?


I call troll. Don't feed it.

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mulder1199

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TamiBx wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

KLGChaos wrote...

Wow, we made the NY Daily News. As man from NY, this is one of our states major newspapers along with the Times. We're getting some real exposure now.

Hold the line.


www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/mass-effect-3-ending-changed-video-gamer-backlash-bioware-announces-article-1.1048196


i find it strange that IGN, this article, the bbc etc have all come flat out and said

'they are changing the endings'


Probably because they all think Bioware is.
I mean, if you look at it from a financial/economic perspective, it is in their best interest to make an alternative ending DLC (paid, of course) to the "vocal minority" of "very passionate fans"
Except Bioware is too proud to do that...or so it seem...:whistle:


agreed....i said earlier if they want to keep their 'artistic' integrity they can add 2 more choices to the godchild scene.,....you can tell him to beat it/shoot him and add another door to go through....

both take you to the shep breathe scene and you finish out the battle some way

the ends are the same, they expanded on the end that was really tough to get (explaining the crap away with the fact that you were indoctrinate or whatever) display in cutscene battle some of the choices you made mattering (geth fleet saves the normandy by sacracficing legion's ship, for example) and a little after war celebration or whatever and i'm good....

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"Casey Hudson stated in an interview at the Consumer Electronics Show that Mass Effect 3 will complete the story arc of Commander Shepard, and will pull in over 1,000 variables from Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 to shape how players experience the final chapter."

So, where is that? Taken from wikipedia?

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Gi-Joe-Ge

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Iucounou wrote...

But right now, I want to forget that ME3 ever existed and get on with my life.

For those of you still holding the line, keep the faith.

Keep fighting.


A pity you are leaving us lucounou, but I understand your motives.

Take care and see you around in the ME universe, fellow comrade.

If you dont mind, could you please share the link list with us for one last time or send it to me by PM? I may include it to the one I am regularly updating.

#53180
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TSC_1 wrote...

PurpleWhisper wrote...

'Art' doesn't always have to be depressing. Plenty of us love a good happy ending. Fiction is a great way to escape reality and my favourite thing about Mass Effect before the ME3 ending was how pumped and uplifted i always felt playing as Shepard.


See, that's the thing - people have been disparaging happy endings throughout this entire debacle. Know what? I want a happy ending where Shep lives and reunites with his/her crew and LI in a galaxy where the mass relays still exist. And I don't think there's a thing wrong with wanting that.

It isn't silly. It isn't non-artistic. It isn't childish. And it's sure as heck not unintellectual.

In a game about choice this should of come across the board at some point.  Not everyone sees Sheaprd having to sacrifice his/ her life for the greater good. If it were one of many possibilities then they have the option to go back and do a "what if Shepard has this outcome playthrough"? I can't wrap my head around this " we only want happy endings" nonsense. NO we don't. We want to CHOICE to have one if we choose to. That's the beauty of the game: "how does this story end"?

Does Sheaprd make the ultimate sacrifice in order to stop the reapers and finally bring peace to the galaxy? 

Does Shepard live to see all he/ she has done, and return to earth knowing that while the losses are devastatingly huge there is still work to be done in the rebuilding of the galaxy?

Does he/ she get to see the pay off of the LI they fought for?

I could go on but the point is choice should always be a factor. What's the point of talking about endings with the same outcome? That's a short conversation. However if each end varies to a point where no two are exactly the same then we have the discussion of why this ending suits my Sheaprd and why I the player choose it.

In an ending regarding happiness it could mean a variety of things depending on who you ask. To me it means seeing the outcome of the choices you made, seeing that you were able to rally people/aliens who were once distrustful of one another or just hated each other outright, but are now brothers and fighting for their future.

It means Shepard getting to bury his dear friend Anderson who had his back since the beginning. To have that drink with Garrus. To help the the galactic rebuilding of the galaxy.  To see that even though we are different if we are willing to forgive and put aside our differences we can accomplish amazing things.

It's more uplifting than happy as it shows that the war is over, casualties are everywhere and we lost good friends, allies, and civilians trying just to survive this nightmare, but at the end of it all we get to live and build a better tomorrow/ future 

We exist not because the Repears allowed it but because we earned the right to. We have earned they right to go on living.

How I see it anyway.

#53181
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Please, I'd like to request again, do not use the term troll, it is against forum rules to call anyone a troll, lets not risk warnings and thread closure, you've all be great thus far, lets keep it that way, thanks for reading.

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KaiserinKai wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

Sometimes I'm hopefull, sometimes not.

What scares me most is seeing what Biowares comes up with in DLC's/patch.

If they stick to godchild/normandy leaving/Shep dying and only give us "explanation" then they lost one paying customer.


Make that two...


Three...


Count me in. I really wanted to buy DA3 but now I don't know. If PAX don't deliver any answers than so be it but than no DLCs and noch futur Bioware Games.

#53183
BigglesFlysAgain

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Surely it was an artistic choice not to feature Liara much in me2, and then fan feedback that people wanted to see more of her changed that.

#53184
Alamandorious

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*pants* Dear lord, trying to get back to the head of this thread through the explosion of posts has made my eyes go funny >.<

#53185
Mythandariel

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DJBare wrote...

Please, I'd like to request again, do not use the term troll, it is against forum rules to call anyone a troll, lets not risk warnings and thread closure, you've all be great thus far, lets keep it that way, thanks for reading.


Sorry...

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Tajah Silver-Sparke wrote...

ME3- The Animal House Ending
www.youtube.com/watch

Hilarious!
Apologies if this has already been posted a bunch of times :)


That was AWESOME.

#53187
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Keep on trucking guys! We can win this.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 21 mars 2012 - 08:49 .


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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Ok patrick thing is fake http://social.biowar...x/10399933&lf=8

I think everyone expected that, it sounded waaaaaaay to much like what I wanted to belive as a disappointed fan. Plus Patrick publicly blaming the end on those 2 and no one was able to take a screenshot before it was taken down? I was calling shenanigans pretty much from the start.

#53189
dorktainian

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this thread is brill.

HOLD THE LINE!!

#53190
Cybermortis

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unclee wrote...

AntiDave wrote...

And here it is:
https://twitter.com/...517553602629633
No new endings.


They're not going to do anything to jeopardize sales right now. The first few weeks to a month after a game is released is the most critical time for sales. If they say they're going to alter the ending then they risk people who were initially going to buy the game in that time finding out and then holding off until the alterations are made.

So don't put much stock in the ME twitter at the moment.


What sales?

Two weeks after release ME3 isn't in Amazons top ten list for the US, and is only 4th in the UK charts. In both cases Diablo III on PC is getting more sales.

Heck, in Japan ME3 isn't even in the top 25....
http://gamerinvestme...ory/sales-data/

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Hello, something I missed?

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[quote]Hendrik.III wrote...



this is also PR (as is everything).....initially, before release, they over promised and under produced.....they are all now giving little bits to keep enthusiams there, but tempered and want to be able to say (at PAX) here's the big fix, it's exactly what you wanted...[/quote]

Plus, if they decide to run with the indoctrination theory... they don't need to "alter" anything, just add "additional content" - if you know where I'm going :whistle:

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correct, patch in another choice, have the option to shoot elroy the space boy in the head (either one wakes you up at shep breathe back in london)...somebody explains what happens to you and you finish out the fight conventionally....

#53193
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[quote]mulder1199 wrote...

[quote]Hendrik.III wrote...



this is also PR (as is everything).....initially, before release, they over promised and under produced.....they are all now giving little bits to keep enthusiams there, but tempered and want to be able to say (at PAX) here's the big fix, it's exactly what you wanted...[/quote]

Plus, if they decide to run with the indoctrination theory... they don't need to "alter" anything, just add "additional content" - if you know where I'm going :whistle:

[/quote]

correct, patch in another choice, have the option to shoot elroy the space boy in the head (either one wakes you up at shep breathe back in london)...somebody explains what happens to you and you finish out the fight conventionally....
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And make it so that those who have lots of War Assets and Paragon/Renegade points can weasle their way out of Kid Harbinger's clutches.

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Cybermortis wrote...

What sales?

Two weeks after release ME3 isn't in Amazons top ten list for the US, and is only 4th in the UK charts. In both cases Diablo III on PC is getting more sales.

Heck, in Japan ME3 isn't even in the top 25....
http://gamerinvestme...ory/sales-data/



Where is EA and their economists at times like these? :whistle:

#53195
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dorktainian wrote...

there are so many issues that need addressing.....

1. teleportation.
2. Shep Shooting Anderson - but actually wounding himself.
3. God Child.
4. red/green/blue
5. The Stranded Fleet.
6. The mass relay explosions should have wiped out trillions of life forms.
7. is this all just a PR stunt to gain publicity?


-The fact that the citadel fell within a Day. From TIM's HQ to getting back to earth wasn't even a day, It was an immidiate counterattack. yet:
-We see no fighting
-Aria?
-C-sec
-Commander Bailey

Closures...:
Krogan
Geth.quarian


TO be honest, I thought when you went up the beam I was going to meet up with resistance fighters inside the citadel... c-sec, aria's mercs?

hell in the space battle, being only one scene, we never saw the geth fleet, we never saw Aria's fleet.

Ground battle?
Krogan plus their mounts?
geth primes?
Arachni?

List goes on and on and on

#53196
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Those are some scary statistics Cyber, considering this was "the most anticipated game of the year"

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mulder1199 wrote...

this is also PR (as is everything).....initially, before release, they over promised and under produced.....they are all now giving little bits to keep enthusiams there, but tempered and want to be able to say (at PAX) here's the big fix, it's exactly what you wanted...


Im extremely curious to how this will all play out.  They can't afford to release sub-par content a second time lol.

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PhoenixDove1 wrote...

It's really hard to not let myself lash out when people try to compartmentalize why the endings were bad.  Specifically when Ray Murzyka says things like this "It’s incredibly painful to receive feedback from our core fans that the game’s endings were not up to their expectations” .  As has been shown and linked many times, the interviews before the games release promised us this, this was not false speculation (no pun intended) or expectation based on 'our' (our own individual sheps) playthroughs.  This expectation is what they gave us.

Calm again.  Thanks for letting me vent Image IPB


I feel the need to vent sometimes too, your not alone. That's when i take a break from the forums and try to calm myself.
Hold the line.

#53199
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OK so removing endings is basically impossible. Leave end endings then, just add a few to it! This talk of no new endings makes me sad. :( I don't think it's unreasonable to pick up after people who chose the Destroy option and add to it, or give us a couple whole endings from the beam run.

*sigh*