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[Arathon]

SSV Leipzig is holding the line
for the majority and not "some loyal
gamers"...

[Darth Garrus]

WvStolzing wrote...


http://twitter.com/#...512779385765888

'Craft a story'.... yeah, right.

Besides, did anyone pass a law about game endings? No, it's possibly (still just possibly) BW doing what she thinks is best for their buyers. It's a simple business-consumer relation. No "freedom" will be crushed if BW pens another ending.

Not to mention that Mr. Moriarty's whole talk is just nonsense. But we already talked about it.

[nitefyre410]

Nharia1 wrote...

Okay so I got this from Liara T'soni on Twitter

http://i.imgur.com/3Qq6U.jpg

It's freaking epic~!!!! xD

 

OMG... that so epic... 

"For Marauder Shields" 

Laughing so hard I can't breathe.

[TSC_1]

Current poll results:

I would be satisfied if Bioware took no action at all regarding the ending of Mass Effect 3: 1% (5 votes)

I would be satisfied if Bioware released additional content to explain the current ending (i.e. explain the fate of the galaxy/crew and explain away plotholes) without modifying the ending: 10% (97 votes)

I would be satisfied if Bioware removed the current ending and replaced it or if Bioware added additional content providing new endings entirely (i.e. Indoctrination Theory or other): 89% (862 votes)

[MysticBinary82]

Arathon wrote...

SSV Leipzig is holding the line
for the majority and not "some loyal
gamers"...

hi there SSV Chemnitz here.

[KLGChaos]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

...link?

http://twitter.com/#...512779385765888

And all the comments are insults towards us. And they call us the "man-babies" when we've been more civil than they ever were. If anyone needs to grow up, it's them.

As for the freedom to craft a story how they see fit-- Bioware has every right to craft the story how they want. They could have easily just said no. They would have just lost a ton of customers in the process. Something the "art" supporters need to understand is that no matter what you call it, it's still a product that had certain promises behind it that weren't delivered on. Art or not, our money is what keeps them able to craft these games. We have just as much at 
 Invested as they do.

Modifié par KLGChaos, 21 mars 2012 - 10:45 .

[Vholien]

Alikan wrote...

I consider it a rush yes. Same as happened with DA2, not that they admitted that until months later-until then it was just talk about how thye tried to be inovative, aiming for awesome etc etc,

ME3 was already pushed forward once(?) and with the end of the fiscal year coming they got the order that this was it. At least what i think and there is alot ofthings to support that.

If it was rushed, it might actually be better for our cause...I would, of course, have preferred that it wasn't rushed, but surely they are more likely to change the ending if they were stressed and had to get it done somehow than if they had all the time in the world to sit around discussing the ending, and this was the one they eventually decided was best?

[Misterdde45000]

Nharia1 wrote...

Okay so I got this from Liara T'soni on Twitter

http://i.imgur.com/3Qq6U.jpg

It's freaking epic~!!!! xD

Epic. My favorit fanpics. Period.

[PurpleWhisper]

I still feel like Shep was manipulated by the Reapers in the end and in was in fact their victory and not ours.

And why did it take the form of the child that Shepard could not save? It must have been inside her head to see that particular memory. That child dying seemed to be something that affected Shep most deeply, it represented a time when she had to stand by helplessly as the kid was destroyed. She was powerless in that moment and perhaps it was the first time she had real doubts about things. So why would the reaper chose to take up that form? Seems like it was trying to demoralise her to better influence her or something..

[TSC_1]

KLGChaos wrote...

As for the freedom to craft a story how they see fit-- Bioware has every right to craft the story how they want. They could have easily just said no. They would have just lost a ton of customers in the process. Something the "art" supporters need to understand is that no matter what you call it, it's still a product that had certain promises behind it that weren't delivered on. Art or not, our money is what keeps them able to craft these games. We have just as much at 
 Invested as they do.

This needs to be repeated. Bioware has the right to do whatever they want in the plot department. But if they want to sell games people will buy, they need to listen to their fans. That isn't trampling a right, that's existing in the real world of capitalism.

I can't understand why people don't get that.

[CimCake]

Nightfire78 wrote...

soske aizen wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

...link?

http://twitter.com/#...512779385765888

can someone make this guy(Colin) shut up??

the guy has a poll way to far up his ass to shut up

It's a free country, he can say what he wants, but with a name like C. Moriarty, I think it's pretty clear what we're supposed to make of it

Don't make promises you can't keep, people will remember those promises when you fail to deliver. That's the message in all this. If they had delivered what they promised and delivered it badly I'm thinking most of us wouldn't be as dissapointed, but they were not even close to delivering what they told us. They should've just kept their mouths shut about the ending before they knew what it was gonna be.
I do feel bad for the writers tho, if they truly wanted this ending, this backlash must be hard on them, but we still have the right to be dissapointed.

[WvStolzing]

KLGChaos wrote...

As for the freedom to craft a story how they see fit-- Bioware has every right to craft the story how they want. They could have easily just said no. They would have just lost a ton of customers in the process. Something the "art" supporters need to understand is that no matter what you call it, it's still a product that had certain promises behind it that weren't delivered on. Art or not, our money is what keeps them able to craft these games. We have just as much at 
 Invested as they do.

The BITTER irony in this, is that people are complaining because of the utter lack of craftsmanship in that abomination of an ending.

[LadyMarisa]

I was at work so I don't know if this has already been mentioned or not.

I just got my PC Gamer in the mail with it's ME3 review and I don't know why, but I was shocked that they didn't have much of a reaction to the ending. I don't know if they're just trying to avoid controversy but I've seen them denounce games that made bad decisions before. Maybe they don't want to offend the publisher etc but I've been a subscriber for years and I was really hoping they'd say *something* about it, even if they're vocally for (though I'd prefer against) the endings. Well technically they do say something but given the world wide reaction to the endings (no matter what side you're on) I was expecting more of a statement.

Tom Francis writes:

The ending I got could have gone a lot better. It's satisfying in some ways, nonsensical in others, and ultimately too simple.

I guess they're trying to be very very neutral but it still bothers me on a personal level. It's my own fault, just because I am a fan of the magazine and I usually agree with their reviews doesn't mean they'd react the way I 'd expect them to. I just don't understand what was satisfying about the endings. Not a single color choice or the plot holes etc made me happy. Though he does say they're too simple and we all agree they don't make sense. I suppose I'm being too harsh, I just expected more.

I wonder if I should write to them or not.

[talk_sick]

thing is - the world of Mass Effest DOES come alive based on your choices.

Even if those choices ultimately boil down to your EMS value, reading the war terminal tells you how exactly giving an interview increases respect for the geth and how the citadel sends the flashlights some raw materials so they could patch themselves up.

What we are dealing with here, are two different situations.

One is the epic game called Mass Effect 3, and the other is the epic fail called (undeservingly) the ending.

[Sevantha]

nitefyre410 wrote...


Oh please... I'm so sick of him.... he can go cry his tears some place else...  When you market you art, its no longer under you creative freedom. If you want to get back to artistic roots, make smaller indy and downloadable games... Like Bastion and Journey.  When you get millions of dollars  the people  funding the project are going to want to see a retrun on  that investment... Its nature of the Beast.  

Don't want to play the game... then get out of it. 

Matter of fact thats what ALOT of developers and artist do  Actors get tired of the grind in Hollywood, what do they do?  They go do thearter.   

So really he needs to go sit down and take a nap... 

He was way to busy kissing biowares ass in reviews and then dismiss us as raging 5 year olds to use his brain. Now he cant back out so ofc he uses the "this game is art" excuse.

I'm sick and tired of people like him, but sadly the internet is for everyone....

[Alamandorious]

Colin Moriarty is giving me a headache.

[kleenex92]

Nightfire78 wrote...

soske aizen wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

...link?

http://twitter.com/#...512779385765888

can someone make this guy(Colin) shut up??

the guy has a poll way to far up his ass to shut up

It's a free country, he can say what he wants, but with a name like C. Moriarty, I think it's pretty clear what we're supposed to make of it

it is funny because apparantly a developer can make as many promises as they want acodring to that and not deliver on any part and still think they are gonna get away with it...
The subject at hand is that the end is so **** that it ruins the entire franchise, and it does not deliver on what it was said to deliver on therefor we can claim the right to get our money back due to false advertisement.

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[PhoenixDove1]

Nharia1 wrote...

Okay so I got this from Liara T'soni on Twitter

http://i.imgur.com/3Qq6U.jpg

It's freaking epic~!!!! xD

awesome  

[RussianOrc]

Nightfire78 wrote...

soske aizen wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

...link?

http://twitter.com/#...512779385765888

can someone make this guy(Colin) shut up??

the guy has a poll way to far up his ass to shut up

It's a free country, he can say what he wants, but with a name like C. Moriarty, I think it's pretty clear what we're supposed to make of it

I don't have any problem with his opinion, i just hate how he is disrespectful with us, like if he's opinion is the only one that matters.

[MysticBinary82]

WvStolzing wrote...

KLGChaos wrote...

As for the freedom to craft a story how they see fit-- Bioware has every right to craft the story how they want. They could have easily just said no. They would have just lost a ton of customers in the process. Something the "art" supporters need to understand is that no matter what you call it, it's still a product that had certain promises behind it that weren't delivered on. Art or not, our money is what keeps them able to craft these games. We have just as much at 
 Invested as they do.

The BITTER irony in this, is that people are complaining because of the utter lack of craftsmanship in that abomination of an ending.

The problem is, that the ending is not even BWs idea it was used in Deus Ex... So much for art. It is stolen art. Apple would have sued Bioware for that.


2139 CE
 
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 Kahlee Sanders is born.

Modifié par MysticBinary82, 21 mars 2012 - 10:49 .

[PhoenixDove1]

DJBare wrote...

*snip*

Hope I did that right, don't know how to snip or make quotes smaller, or link for that matter   Thanks for posting all this every few pages, preciate it!

[Twiggyrez]

Nharia1 wrote...

Okay so I got this from Liara T'soni on Twitter

http://i.imgur.com/3Qq6U.jpg

It's freaking epic~!!!! xD

Lol, now I want to watch the movies (again) and it's late

[Kuranai3]

Back from work, any news?

[WvStolzing]

MysticBinary82 wrote...
The problem is, that the ending is not even BWs idea it was used in Deus Ex... So much for art. It is stolen art. Apple would have sued Bioware for that.

Maybe they should have already: The dialogue wheel is a bit too reminiscent of an iPod's click-wheel.