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[Aramintai]

kingsims wrote...

I think they just wanted to shock their fans and they indeed got it. It looks like they wanted to end mass effect and they did it. There are some unfinished things about shepard and the Normandy crew but bioware will probably wrap it with a DLC.

They won't. They said there won't be any post-end DLC.

[EddieL]

luzburg wrote...

EddieL wrote...

luzburg wrote...

it seems that alot of pepole are pissed cause of the endings. and im not to upsett and starting to live with it
but my fear is that som nutcase hwo happens to love mass effect marches into the bioware studios with an ak 47. like anders bering brevik 2.0

What a loser.

me or the what i descibed?

Sorry, my post wasnt clear.  The person you was describing.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Aramintai wrote...

kingsims wrote...

I think they just wanted to shock their fans and they indeed got it. It looks like they wanted to end mass effect and they did it. There are some unfinished things about shepard and the Normandy crew but bioware will probably wrap it with a DLC.

They won't. They said there won't be any post-end DLC.

They also said

This, BioWare producer Mike Gamble told Eurogamer, puts pressure on the team to deliver a satisfying ending.
"We have a really talented team of writers. We go through iteration after iteration, making it the best and most satisfying we can," he said.
"It's going to make some people extremely happy. It's going to make some people angry. But that's part of it, right? To invoke the emotion putting some of these stories to bed will naturally bring up.

http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry

Trying to find who is "extremely happy".

[CerberusSoldier]

Oh so they want to play that card . hey Bioware you suck at story telling and understanding Sci Fi . As well what makes a Sci Fi story work

[PosterAnonymous]

xtorma wrote...

PosterAnonymous wrote...


you have a hangover and you are suggesting someone else get counciling?


If I had a hangover every night this week, you'd have a leg to stand on. Considering this is my first hangover in 2 weeks,
WRONG, sir!



We'd all be lucky if this were even in the top 10 biggest disappointments in our lifetimes. Just cancel the pre-order like I did if it bothers you that much.

Don't get me wrong, if true this blows and I don't mind everyone venting here (I've done so myself), but don't go kill yourself over it or anything.

alcoholics lie , how can we believe its the first time in two weeks? Someone told me one time about some obscure bible verse that stated remove the log out of your own eye before you try and remove the splinters from anothers. I am not a believer , but there is wisdom in that.

Meh. Believe what you will. I don't know you from Adam, so I'm not losing any sleep over it. :shrugs:

My point stands - This isn't the end of the world, just a REALLY crappy ending to a beloved video game series.

[Lux]

Separated from everyone and friends stranded somewhere is my idea of "extremely pissed". Still on the lookout for that "extremely happy" part.

[xtorma]

Stay tuned , i'm not done yet........it'll cost you 20 more bucks though.

[Aramintai]

[quote]Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

This, BioWare producer Mike Gamble told Eurogamer, puts pressure on the team to deliver a satisfying ending.
"We have a really talented team of writers. We go through iteration after iteration, making it the best and most satisfying we can," he said.
"It's going to make some people extremely happy. It's going to make some people angry. But that's part of it, right? To invoke the emotion putting some of these stories to bed will naturally bring up.[/quote]

http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry

Trying to find who is "extremely happy". [/quote]
Sadistic BSN users who will gleefuly gloat and laugh at those BSN users who wanted a happy ending. I've seen some already.

[dw99027]

Huyna wrote...

dw99027 wrote...


Believe me, I get where you're coming from. But with the amount of destruction we're about to see, simply put any tempt to instill some 'reprieve' would feel tacked on..

With all do respect, but not to let it become "tacked on" is also part of scriptwriters's job. So yes, they can go an easy road (just like, in my opninion, they did) and mount one unavoidable catastrophy of different scale after another (huge scale - death of millions, small scale - Shep's separation from Normandy) .  But when it comes to "amount of destruction"  and "reprievee" an amasing Babylon 5 series comes mind. There was a huge bloody war (well, much more complicated, actually) of ancient powerfull race versus young races (humanity among them). Eventually, that was was won (again, not exactly correct statement), and the price of this "victory" was enormous. And yet there were time and place for some of main characters's personal happines, after all horrors they witnessed and survived.  And , somewhow, it was not cheesy at all.

I agree in principle but getting too creative can and will lead to an 'uncanny valley' effect more often than not. Is there a perfect ending in theory that accomodates everyone? Probably, but good luck coming up with it. In my opinion, they had the following options:
-Happy mainstream ending. Safest route , yet totally invalidates the Reapers. Even with losses galore. Rage ensues.
-Dark brooding ending. Stays true to the ME spirit, vindicates Reaper buildup, annoys those more interested in interactions. Rage ensues.
-Multiple endings encompassing both of the above. Satisfies everyone, no immediate raging. Totally convolutes their universe for future use necessitating application of official canon. Rage ensues.


They just picked the way that was more true to the whole spirit of ME in the end. Rage was inevitable. 

[The Asari]

Bioware has really taken that ''if you havent played the previous two mass effect games ME 3 is a great place to jump in'' part to heart. And of course the new players who have no affiliation with the characthers or the story will simply say ''oh cool'' to the endings. But for the fans that have been with this franchise since the beginning and that actually cares about the characthers, the universe and the series, the endings are simply a giant middle finger to us long time fans.


To really make bioware feel that they have dissapointed us is, which is not possible, but wouldve have been cool. is if nobody bought the game so when bioware check their sales and how much money they made, they would be at a terrible loss : ) the most anticipated game of 2012 would be the biggest failure of 2012. i love mass effect but this would show them how unhappy we are with those god awful endings, which all are basically the same ending with shades of grey.

[luzburg]

Elite Midget wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

How is it that a series like Gears of War, a TPS, can offer a better ending in the face of absolute destruction but Bioware can't pull it off with ME3 if the leaks are true?

   


The endings are real because the pc version of the game is already on the net . People have data mined its video files and found all the endings . The SR 2 disaster is un avoidable

Ironic from a company that used to pride itself on choices and listening to its fans.

the normandy is in the middle of a relay jump when it explodes

[eternalshiva]

Well, I just heard the citadel is in orbit around earth at the end, so... if this is true, and Shep survives the blast, he's not too far away from earth.

Maybe if your LI is the VS, don't accept them back on the normandy and they won't get seperated from you at the end when Joker gets taken away by space magic? Sounds like BW gives you a choice almost at the start "You can have all the sex you want with your LI, keep 'em around but you lose 'em at the end OR don't allow them back on the Normandy, survive the blast and fanfic your way into make-up sex".

Destroy ending for me, regardless. Something fishy about the guardian I don't give a **** about EDI or the Geth anyway - too much math logic. I do feel abd about the Normandy, but I'm glad Shepard isn't going to be forever alone with this ending. He's back on earth (evantually) if the Citadel is in orbit around earth like I jusst read in the spoiler forums.

Modifié par Liedral, 01 mars 2012 - 01:03 .

[DragonRageGT]

So, they can lie about giving us a wide range of endings, making people very happy and very mad but they cannot lie about post game DLC?

Guess what, if the first lie is confirmed, then why not push them to make the second a lie as well? Give us the damn post game DLC with the proper ending for those who have been building emotional attachment with some of the team for many years now!

Brazilian base in Antarctica burst to flames a few days ago. It's a Navy base. Two officers lost their lives there. All the other remaining Navy people cried like babies while paying their last tribute to their falling comrades. That happens even with Marines, Seals, Chuck Norries and Rambones all around. So don't say asking for a proper ending is for "teenagers wishing sunshine and bunnies". I'm 48 next 14th and I wouldn't mind a happy ending but at least give us some proper closure to the emotional investment we made in the series!

[CrashTagger]

dw99027 wrote...
I agree in principle but getting too creative can and will lead to an 'uncanny valley' effect more often than not. Is there a perfect ending in theory that accomodates everyone? Probably, but good luck coming up with it. In my opinion, they had the following options:
-Happy mainstream ending. Safest route , yet totally invalidates the Reapers. Even with losses galore. Rage ensues.
-Dark brooding ending. Stays true to the ME spirit, vindicates Reaper buildup, annoys those more interested in interactions. Rage ensues.
-Multiple endings encompassing both of the above. Satisfies everyone, no immediate raging. Totally convolutes their universe for future use necessitating application of official canon. Rage ensues.


They just picked the way that was more true to the whole spirit of ME in the end. Rage was inevitable. 

Very well said, rage is inevitable, and until I play the game, based on the supposed "official" information, I'm glad they stayed true to the universe's tone. But that might completely change once I actually finish the game, along with everyone else.

[Prometheus75]

I have lost so much enthusiasm for this game that I'm debating cancelling my CE pre-order.

[luzburg]

DragonRageGT wrote...

So, they can lie about giving us a wide range of endings, making people very happy and very mad but they cannot lie about post game DLC?

Guess what, if the first lie is confirmed, then why not push them to make the second a lie as well? Give us the damn post game DLC with the proper ending for those who have been building emotional attachment with some of the team for many years now!

Brazilian base in Antarctica burst to flames a few days ago. It's a Navy base. Two officers lost their lives there. All the other remaining Navy people cried like babies while paying their last tribute to their falling comrades. That happens even with Marines, Seals, Chuck Norries and Rambones all around. So don't say asking for a proper ending is for "teenagers wishing sunshine and bunnies". I'm 48 next 14th and I wouldn't mind a happy ending but at least give us some proper closure to the emotional investment we made in the series!

you got my support. 
i got so little to do in the last few years that mass effect has grown to a large and important part of my life.
and hearing this is actualy a devestating thing for me since i spent time reading the novels,  around 1400 hrs of me1 and 2 gametime.  and all that for the destruction of something i wanted to se "flower" without the reaper threat even if it ment sacrifasing shepard the rest is just salt in the wound

Modifié par luzburg, 01 mars 2012 - 01:12 .

[CerberusSoldier]

luzburg wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

How is it that a series like Gears of War, a TPS, can offer a better ending in the face of absolute destruction but Bioware can't pull it off with ME3 if the leaks are true?

   


The endings are real because the pc version of the game is already on the net . People have data mined its video files and found all the endings . The SR 2 disaster is un avoidable

Ironic from a company that used to pride itself on choices and listening to its fans.

the normandy is in the middle of a relay jump when it explodes

  


so it can not be saved . it just makes even more sick and disgusting

[AllThatJazz]

PosterAnonymous wrote...

xtorma wrote...

PosterAnonymous wrote...


you have a hangover and you are suggesting someone else get counciling?


If I had a hangover every night this week, you'd have a leg to stand on. Considering this is my first hangover in 2 weeks,
WRONG, sir!



We'd all be lucky if this were even in the top 10 biggest disappointments in our lifetimes. Just cancel the pre-order like I did if it bothers you that much.

Don't get me wrong, if true this blows and I don't mind everyone venting here (I've done so myself), but don't go kill yourself over it or anything.

alcoholics lie , how can we believe its the first time in two weeks? Someone told me one time about some obscure bible verse that stated remove the log out of your own eye before you try and remove the splinters from anothers. I am not a believer , but there is wisdom in that.

Meh. Believe what you will. I don't know you from Adam, so I'm not losing any sleep over it. :shrugs:

My point stands - This isn't the end of the world, just a REALLY crappy ending to a beloved video game series.

Good lord, the guy mentions a hangover and all of a sudden he's an alcoholic?! That's a little extreme, don't you think? Especially since the fella was just trying to help a fellow forumite gain some perspective ie that all this stuff, if true (and okay it probably is), and however unpalatable it may be to some fans, is not the end of the world. 

[DragonRageGT]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

luzburg wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

How is it that a series like Gears of War, a TPS, can offer a better ending in the face of absolute destruction but Bioware can't pull it off with ME3 if the leaks are true?

   


The endings are real because the pc version of the game is already on the net . People have data mined its video files and found all the endings . The SR 2 disaster is un avoidable

Ironic from a company that used to pride itself on choices and listening to its fans.

the normandy is in the middle of a relay jump when it explodes

  


so it can not be saved . it just makes even more sick and disgusting

Please, no one say anything about the pirated N7 DDE for the PC that leaked on TPB and some other websites yesterday. It has a Russian first screen at the Origin installer (which then keeps in English) and it cannot be installed without a proper key. There is no way someone could install and file mine without the key. At least until there is no crack for it.

[xtorma]

AllThatJazz wrote...

PosterAnonymous wrote...

xtorma wrote...

PosterAnonymous wrote...


you have a hangover and you are suggesting someone else get counciling?


If I had a hangover every night this week, you'd have a leg to stand on. Considering this is my first hangover in 2 weeks,
WRONG, sir!



We'd all be lucky if this were even in the top 10 biggest disappointments in our lifetimes. Just cancel the pre-order like I did if it bothers you that much.

Don't get me wrong, if true this blows and I don't mind everyone venting here (I've done so myself), but don't go kill yourself over it or anything.

alcoholics lie , how can we believe its the first time in two weeks? Someone told me one time about some obscure bible verse that stated remove the log out of your own eye before you try and remove the splinters from anothers. I am not a believer , but there is wisdom in that.

Meh. Believe what you will. I don't know you from Adam, so I'm not losing any sleep over it. :shrugs:

My point stands - This isn't the end of the world, just a REALLY crappy ending to a beloved video game series.

Good lord, the guy mentions a hangover and all of a sudden he's an alcoholic?! That's a little extreme, don't you think? Especially since the fella was just trying to help a fellow forumite gain some perspective ie that all this stuff, if true (and okay it probably is), and however unpalatable it may be to some fans, is not the end of the world. 

all i was saying is , if you are perfect you have the right to cast stones. If you are not.....

[Milana_Saros]

Simple question because I simply cba to skim through 214 pages:

If your LI is on your ground team before the end and they survive and Shepard survives then won't you be stranded with your LI and be able to be together? Or is there some additional "ha ha, no real choice for you after all" bull**** going on here? Like Shepard dying anyway etc.

Edit: Nvm read if from another thread. Haha fail. Glad I got a gift card for this game and only had to pay 7 euros.

Modifié par Milana_Saros, 01 mars 2012 - 01:18 .

[CptData]

Aramintai wrote...

kingsims wrote...

I think they just wanted to shock their fans and they indeed got it. It looks like they wanted to end mass effect and they did it. There are some unfinished things about shepard and the Normandy crew but bioware will probably wrap it with a DLC.

They won't. They said there won't be any post-end DLC.

Technically, a DLC that changes the endings, is no post-end DLC.

I just doubt BW will do us a favor and produce such DLC. They simply wanted to end the story - and did it in a way no one ever can continue it without massive "asspulls" and "retcons". Regardless of the Endings.

Snake91 wrote...

I have read one article is little old but hope to be true


http://games.ign.com.../1217922p1.html

It would be too detached from the original trilogy & universe ... not sure if I want to play that.
"Our" trilogy had a promising start and felt quite real since it was an extension of our -real- history.
A new ME-trilogy might work - but only 500 - 1000 years after the original trilogy.
And that means we're pretty much detached from the humans we might see then.

Modifié par CptData, 01 mars 2012 - 01:18 .