So we can't get the ending we want after all?
#53801
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:38
http://masseffect.com/about/story/
“Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience and outcome.”
Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer)
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“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”
Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer)
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“I’m always leery of saying there are 'optimal' endings, because I think one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are optimal for different people”
Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
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“And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as much as we are anyway.”
Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/
“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…”
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Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending.
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“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you didn't make”
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“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different based on what you would do in those situations.”
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“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”
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Hudson: “Um… You know, at this point, I think we’re co-creators with the fans. We use a lot of feedback.”
Interview with Casey Hudson (Director)
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Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?”
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”
“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player decide what your story is.”
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Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike Gamble.
Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
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"Of course you don’t have to play multiplayer, you can choose to play all the side-quests in single-player and do all that stuff you’ll still get all the same endings and same information, it’s just a totally different way of playing"
Casey Hudson (Director)
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“The whole idea of Mass Effect3 is resolving all of the biggest questions, about the Protheons and the Reapers, and being in the driver's seat to end the galaxy and all of these big plot lines, to decide what civilizations are going to live or die: All of these things are answered in Mass Effect 3.”
Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.computera...ly-good/?page=2
“There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you approach the end-game. And even in terms of the ending itself, it continues to break down to some very large decisions. So it's not like a classic game ending where everything is linear and you make a choice between a few things - it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who plays it.”
Someone posted this in another thread. I'm sure all of you have seen this a thousand times, but I think it's important to remember that not only are the endings bad, but they're exactly the opposite of what they promised.
#53802
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:39
TamiBx wrote...
Bionic Weapon wrote...
Quick question: Say the endings don't change and we do in fact get just an explanation of the current ones. Why was that tweet about if we knew what they were planning we would hold onto our saves forever even said? To give us hope that never was coming? Or do they believe that MP and pre ending content will actually make us happy?
All this just seems strange. Hold on to our saves but for what purpose? Pre ending content will not require us to do that nor would MP content. What's up with that?
See, Bioware also said to us that we would get 16 different endings where our choices did matter, and that they were not going to be a,b,c...They also said we would get closure...so, yeah...
I'm trying to believe, I really am, but their past makes it hard for me to believe them...
Join us on the victory celebration side of the room. We have cookies, and punch! And they're not a week old anymore!
#53803
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:40
On the show itself they basically talked about mazukya's (I can't remember how to spell his name) letter blog post thing. Sara underwood announced that they were going to change the end and everyone cheered. She then said or not and everyone said ahhhh.WvStolzing wrote...
I don't know what happened on the show, but the poll results are very 'interesting'.ld1449 wrote...
What's this? What happened on Attack the show?
Nothing groundbreaking, but any press that doesn't call us stark raving lunatics is good press in my book.
#53804
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:40
Teleraine wrote...
Anyone seen the yahtzee video...and I think hes saying something along the lines its not very good but to be fair in his own words hes pretty jaded.
www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/5497-Mass-Effect-3
Yeah I loved that video today.. mind you I love all of Yahtzee's videos. He threw me for a loop when he all but proposed to Saints Row 2 lol.
#53805
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:41
http://da.twitch.tv/luzarius
Im so excited to see what happens!.
#53806
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:41
Uh huh, Hey Casey, don't know if you've played Mass Effect 3 yet.....oh wait.Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.computera...ly-good/?page=2
“There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you approach the end-game. And even in terms of the ending itself, it continues to break down to some very large decisions. So it's not like a classic game ending where everything is linear and you make a choice between a few things - it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who plays it.
#53807
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:42
I'm thinking of doing a video on youtube/to send to bioware. Have everyone on here do a quick video saying "I am Commander Shepard" and what they've accomplished as the hero of the citadel.
Then put it into one video so Bioware can look "some of it's fanbase" in the eyes.
#53808
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:42
#53809
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:42
Computim wrote...
Join us on the victory celebration side of the room. We have cookies, and punch! And they're not a week old anymore!
Thank you! :happy:
I never thought one game could ruin a whole month of my life and make it an emotional rollercoaster...
#53810
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:44
KRAETZNER wrote...
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Someone posted this in another thread. I'm sure all of you have seen this a thousand times, but I think it's important to remember that not only are the endings bad, but they're exactly the opposite of what they promised.
And this is why I can't accept anything I'm told now as truth without hard evidence (which they don't want to give us), and why I expect more lies from them to try and diffuse the situation as much as possible.
Call me paranoid but based on the evidence so far, EA/BW can't be trusted to keep their word, and all those quotes prove it.
I've seen no proof they plan to do anything to fix things, just hollow, empty words that have no weight due to the past lies.
#53811
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:44
Mythandariel wrote...
I still think this was all a PR stunt that went sideways.
That is entirely possible. Sadly we will probably never know the truth.
#53812
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:44
me either, certainly a first for meTamiBx wrote...
Thank you! :happy:
I never thought one game could ruin a whole month of my life and make it an emotional rollercoaster...
#53813
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:45
We should definitely make a party.xDTamiBx wrote...
Computim wrote...
Join us on the victory celebration side of the room. We have cookies, and punch! And they're not a week old anymore!
Thank you! :happy:
I never thought one game could ruin a whole month of my life and make it an emotional rollercoaster...
#53814
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:49
RussianOrc wrote...
We should definitely make a party.xD
Party Hard?
#53815
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:49
#53816
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:49
we have helped the arab spring happen! we are helping to get kony? . we help elect a president. and now we are fighhting for our rights as consumers and costumers . to get what we paid for.
a 100% compleete product that lives up to the promises given. nothing more nothing less
hold the line. its worth it!
Modifié par kewnsty, 22 mars 2012 - 02:56 .
#53817
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:49
I'm sorry, but that is the lamest disguising of "**** YOU" I have ever read. Honestly, I can't believe people are thanking him for a response, all we got was a big middle finger and a "maybe."
#53818
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:49
Yeah, getting over DAII took me less than a week, I guess Mass Effect had a much greater impact on me.TamiBx wrote...
I never thought one game could ruin a whole month of my life and make it an emotional rollercoaster...
#53819
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:49
#53820
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:49
TamiBx wrote...
I never thought one game could ruin a whole month of my life and make it an emotional rollercoaster...
Tell me about it.....
I don't think this is a PR stunt went awry or anything; I think it's a lot simpler than that:
1) They made a radical change in the plot (dark energy to 'tech. singularity')
2) By November 2011, they had no idea how to wrap up the 'updated' story
3) At some point they decided not to bother finding multiple decent endings. (Lots of Speculation!)
4) They thought they could get away with that, if they could sufficiently muddy the waters. (Casper)
...and, they couldn't get away with it. Because we're not stupid.
#53821
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:50
Please edit your quotes in order to reduce pyramids, this is very helpful to others reading.
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#53822
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:50
RussianOrc wrote...
We should definitely make a party.xDTamiBx wrote...
Computim wrote...
Join us on the victory celebration side of the room. We have cookies, and punch! And they're not a week old anymore!
Thank you! :happy:
I never thought one game could ruin a whole month of my life and make it an emotional rollercoaster...
Definitely.. we need fireworks.. we're totally having the celebration you don't see at the end of ME3.. yet.
#53823
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:50
TamiBx wrote...
Bionic Weapon wrote...
Quick question: Say the endings don't change and we do in fact get just an explanation of the current ones. Why was that tweet about if we knew what they were planning we would hold onto our saves forever even said? To give us hope that never was coming? Or do they believe that MP and pre ending content will actually make us happy?
All this just seems strange. Hold on to our saves but for what purpose? Pre ending content will not require us to do that nor would MP content. What's up with that?
See, Bioware also said to us that we would get 16 different endings where our choices did matter, and that they were not going to be a,b,c...They also said we would get closure...so, yeah...
I'm trying to believe, I really am, but their past makes it hard for me to believe them...
I believe nothing they say until I see It for myself... seriously. Foo me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me... They did not mispeak or misquote... they straight up and down lied... they are not 16 different endings in this game. Its is a lie and we need to start calling it what it is and stop sparing them.
They lied... clear as day and if that hurts some of their staffs feelings... well then tough..
Modifié par nitefyre410, 22 mars 2012 - 02:53 .
#53824
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:51
Darkspazztic wrote...
RussianOrc wrote...
We should definitely make a party.xD
Party Hard?
I'll party when the new/alternative ending comes out...or I'll just go to the corner of my room to cry if it doesn't...
If they don't fix it, I think I'll never be able to touch a ME game again. Too traumatized.
#53825
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:52
Let's not get abusive please, the folk participating in this thread have been remarkably restrained given their own passion, let's at least attempt to remain civil.Reptilian Rob wrote...
I read that letter from Ray again.




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