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[nitefyre410]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

I read that letter from Ray again.

I'm sorry, but that is the lamest disguising of "**** YOU" I have ever read. Honestly, I can't believe people are thanking him for a response, all we got was a big middle finger and a "maybe."

Oh I know  Rob... I read that letter...   like I said.. we give them a chance but what I'm not doing is sparing their feelings anymore over this.. They lied, straight up  lied and Ray has audicity to see there and play victim about harsh cristism. Well if  there staff could not take harsh cristism they should not have gotten in the buisness of mass produciing their creative endevours.  Considering the cristicism in the  Gaming Industary is patty cake compared to   Book, Movies, Music and other Media.     

like a I said my repsonse in the  Sticky  thread.. for the blog post.. "I also advise that you choose your words more wisely, using the word "Destructive" when addressing you customers complaints is not the way to handle this situation." 

[RatedRRachel]

TamiBx wrote...

RatedRRachel wrote...

And that is why I am sick of the negative side of "don't make the writer's change their vision". They didn't even know how they wanted to end it until very late in the process. And the promises they made were not kept. If their vision was crafted for five years and this was the ultimate goal, that is one thing. But it wasn't. Dark energy seemed to be the original plan and when that was scrapped... we were left with RGB and space magic. 

I know, right? Thanks for the awesome ending that fulfilled all of the promises...not.
And honestly, I'm sick of the "video game is art" defense. It's not. It's a game. I get to pick the endings and you just make them. You create the path and I pick it. 

P.S. I love your profile picture...but it's reminding me that there will never be Shenko babies...

Yeah. If you want to play a very linear RPG like those from Sqaue Enix, play them. With Bioware, it has always been about the stories and the characters. How are we supposed to feel content about the whole galaxy being screwed over in the end? And even if Shepard dies, what of the crew? With Bioware games, you felt like you were crafting your own story within their template. With those endings, it was like everyone's Shepard was the same in the end.

P.S. - Thanks! I am on the forum so much I wanted to have his picture around. But yeah... I try not to think of the end. Hard to do, but trying to stay postive that something will change. If not Shenko babies, maybe some actual closure and choice. 

[whoisthis98]

We already got a response it's we will not meet your demands but we will throw you a bone and tack on some lousy scenes to explain joker running etc. Hah i got 5 bucks says it's blocks of text you have to read and 0 game play haha you know it's true.

Again Bethesda changed their ending and gave us broken steel one of the best dlc's ever. Bioware... well lets see if they are a good company or not and if they are as smart as Bethesda. If they are then the will do as the promised long ago and give us a large range of endings from happy to sad that come from our choices and hey even after the game dlc like broken steel.... maybe TIM lives and we have to hunt him down and get that final boss fight after all ( that dlc i would pay for ) . AND NO GOD KID WITH SPACE MAGIC..

[Blue Liara]

Don't be fooled by this latest release from Muzyka. Seems to me like the same PR nonsense. Also I am really getting sick and tired of the belittling way they refer to those who don't like the ending as the most passionate fans. This article on Forbes does a really good job of analyzing Muzyka's statement.

Points out that his call for constructive criticism is a bit ridiculous. If its supposed to be 'art' why should it be constructive?!. They are trying to calm things down to let off the pressure. Do not let up as soon as we do they will have the upper hand. STAY ON THE FORUMS, KEEP UP THE PRESSURE!

HOLD THE LINE!!!!

AND READ THIS ARTICLE ON MUZYKA'S STATEMENT AND REPOST IT WHEREVER YOU CAN!!!

www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/21/bioware-co-founder-apologizes-to-fans-for-the-mass-effect-3-ending-sort-of/

[DJBare]

SE JN wrote...
It's points like this that anger me.  Sigh.  I have to remember though, that Bioware is filled with some of the best game development PEOPLE, and people make mistakes.

I'm still having a hard time accepting the ending was a mistake, some of the developers had to have played through this game before it's release, 20 to 30 hours of play to end like that?, it does not make sense.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Mara Shep wrote...

I keep getting the urge to do a run through of all three games, and then I remember the ending. And the desire leaves me completely.

Urgh, this game has put my life on hold at the moment. RIDICULOUS.

I don't know if I can watch.  That poor guy.

I really really want to finish my Vanguard character in ME2 but I can't do it, what's the point? the ending is the same no matter what I do 

[FinalEndeavor]

Mara Shep wrote...

I keep getting the urge to do a run through of all three games, and then I remember the ending. And the desire leaves me completely.

Urgh, this game has put my life on hold at the moment. RIDICULOUS.

I don't know if I can watch.  That poor guy.

i will eventually go back and start a new game on me1 and go through to me2.....but its going to a long time before i do that

[Generic Name]

Bionic Weapon wrote...

Quick question: Say the endings don't change and we do in fact get just an explanation of the current ones. Why was that tweet about if we knew what they were planning we would hold onto our saves forever even said? To give us hope that never was coming? Or do they believe that MP and pre ending content will actually make us happy?

All this just seems strange. Hold on to our saves but for what purpose? Pre ending content will not require us to do that nor would MP content. What's up with that?

(Yes a little late as I'm still 5 pages back)

Obviously they are talking about the Omega DLC and multiplayer maps.

[TamiBx]

Lord Costantino wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

Today i took some time to think about it and now i'm almost sure bioware will change the ending.Think about it if they release any pre-ending dlc, it's almost certain that the sales will be very low at best, so, based on their 1 year support plan for ME3, if the first dlc end up in a massive failure, the whole Mass Effect 3 project may be considered a failure unless they surrender to the requests of their fanbase(us) and change their dlc plan so the next one won't end up the same way, so, if we are the majority of the fanbase(as i think we are) it's just a question of time before they change the ending.

Then we need to keep the pressure on them to make sure DA3 is good, imo <_<

DA3...

I'm not getting it if ME3 ending isn't fixed (it breaks my heart to do it, but I can't give in), unless they bring Alistair back (which I highly doubt they will, but...)

I'm pretty sure after all of this, they are reviewing their DA3 script/story like crazy...

[vboy23]

Having dr muzyka make a statement (which imho still seems vague) really seems like a great improvement. In anycase im really happy we are seeing results of our efforts bit by bit as the days pass. Keep it up everyone. And thanks a lot to djbare and gijoe for keeping a compilation of articles. I really couldnt keep up to date since ive been sick the past days. (which apparently has been a huge rollercoaster ride)

Hold the line!!!
Never forget Marauder Shields!!!

[DJBare]

I'm gonna fall onto the cot and get some shut eye, remember, remain steadfast, keep it civil, and hold the line!

[Lord Costantino]

TamiBx wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

Today i took some time to think about it and now i'm almost sure bioware will change the ending.Think about it if they release any pre-ending dlc, it's almost certain that the sales will be very low at best, so, based on their 1 year support plan for ME3, if the first dlc end up in a massive failure, the whole Mass Effect 3 project may be considered a failure unless they surrender to the requests of their fanbase(us) and change their dlc plan so the next one won't end up the same way, so, if we are the majority of the fanbase(as i think we are) it's just a question of time before they change the ending.

Then we need to keep the pressure on them to make sure DA3 is good, imo <_<

DA3...

I'm not getting it if ME3 ending isn't fixed (it breaks my heart to do it, but I can't give in), unless they bring Alistair back (which I highly doubt they will, but...)

I'm pretty sure after all of this, they are reviewing their DA3 script/story like crazy...

They better bring back Alistair, hes my broham and is the video game version of me..literally.  They also better bring back Leliana. MOST OF ALL give us a story thats DA:O worthy not this DA2 crap

[Darkspazztic]

TamiBx wrote...
DA3...

I'm not getting it if ME3 ending isn't fixed (it breaks my heart to do it, but I can't give in), unless they bring Alistair back (which I highly doubt they will, but...)

I'm pretty sure after all of this, they are reviewing their DA3 script/story like crazy...

I won't be getting it either.

And if they're not reviewing the ME3 ending script/story, they're doing it wrong.

[SpaRR]

Humm , this letter , i think they will just keep the actual ending , and add a 5mins epilogue , sry for my big doubts , but it's just what i see...and it's not enough for me.

I hope i'm wrong , and maybe the indoctrination theory will be used.

Anyway , i Hold the line until a real clarification about this futur ending dlc.

[Blue Liara]

FinalEndeavor wrote...

Mara Shep wrote...

I keep getting the urge to do a run through of all three games, and then I remember the ending. And the desire leaves me completely.

Urgh, this game has put my life on hold at the moment. RIDICULOUS.

I don't know if I can watch.  That poor guy.

i will eventually go back and start a new game on me1 and go through to me2.....but its going to a long time before i do that

I will start a new game from ME1-2 and pray pray pray that by the time I get to ME3 two things will have happened. 
First: That I will have suffered Amnesia and forgotten the ending to ME3
Second: That they have changed the ending to ME3

[darthoptimus003]

Hope y'all realize that nothing will happen to the endings they just gave us the finger I'm done with all of this bw just lost a fan and I'm sell all 3 me ce on Friday hope that artistic crap works for u in the future bw cause it sure didn't with me3 now I wished I never heard of mass effect

[MeldarthX]

http://da.twitch.tv/luzarius

seriously guys/gals come watch this - he's near the ending - live stream with no spoilers - aka he doesn't know man I feel sorry for him.

[Blue Liara]

MeldarthX wrote...

http://da.twitch.tv/luzarius

seriously guys/gals come watch this - he's near the ending - live stream with no spoilers - aka he doesn't know man I feel sorry for him.

Watching it now. I almost want to warn him. Tell him its not worth it. He should have someone there to help him through it when the time comes. 

[Trzeb]

sometimes i wonder, what if bioware was planning on the fans writing the new ending? Maybe they thought that the best way to end the series was to have the fans create it themselves. But then i think of this huge sh**storm that has resulted and can't imagine that BW would take that big of a gamble. At this point i'm not sure what i should believe, but i am at least glad to see they're starting to acknowledge that there is discontent about the endings.....although it still bugs me when they say "some" fans.

[Lord Costantino]

MeldarthX wrote...

http://da.twitch.tv/luzarius

seriously guys/gals come watch this - he's near the ending - live stream with no spoilers - aka he doesn't know man I feel sorry for him.

Watching now...

[TamiBx]

Lord Costantino wrote...
They better bring back Alistair, hes my broham and is the video game version of me..literally.  They also better bring back Leliana. MOST OF ALL give us a story thats DA:O worthy not this DA2 crap

Bioware did say that DA3 will not be about the Warden or Hawke (most likely a new character), so...
Oh, wait. I don't believe in them anymore. Never mind. Anything is possible now. <_<

[RussianOrc]

DJBare wrote...

I'm gonna fall onto the cot and get some shut eye, remember, remain steadfast, keep it civil, and hold the line!

Good night sean connery.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

SpaRR wrote...

Humm , this letter , i think they will just keep the actual ending , and add a 5mins epilogue , sry for my big doubts , but it's just what i see...and it's not enough for me..

I hope this isn't the case, it's not enough of an explanation and it still makes our choices not matter.

[Darkspazztic]

TamiBx wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...
They better bring back Alistair, hes my broham and is the video game version of me..literally.  They also better bring back Leliana. MOST OF ALL give us a story thats DA:O worthy not this DA2 crap

Bioware did say that DA3 will not be about the Warden or Hawke (most likely a new character), so...
Oh, wait. I don't believe in them anymore. Never mind. Anything is possible now. <_<

It's Shepard!

[Lord Costantino]

TamiBx wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...
They better bring back Alistair, hes my broham and is the video game version of me..literally.  They also better bring back Leliana. MOST OF ALL give us a story thats DA:O worthy not this DA2 crap

Bioware did say that DA3 will not be about the Warden or Hawke (most likely a new character), so...
Oh, wait. I don't believe in them anymore. Never mind. Anything is possible now. <_<

I dont understand the reasoning of getting rid of the Warden So quickly I was ACTUALLY hoping that the 3rd game would end with OUR Warden having to do his Calling...the most epic fight to the death.

*Edit*
It wouldnt be the LAST FIGHT but we do it shortly after the final part of the Game as part of the Epilogue

Modifié par Lord Costantino, 22 mars 2012 - 03:25 .