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Xyalon

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Nharia1 wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

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IGN
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Hey Xy, have you seen the new IGN video? Though I'm not sure if you'd want to see it, seeing as Colin is back, and by Colin, I mean the pomus stick up Colin...


Oooh, no.

Has he COMPLETELY backtracked on everything he said first time round?...because, you, know, like, that would be a first...:whistle:

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hey guys, a new article from the "Spiegel", german weekly news magazin, one of Europe's largest with a weekly circulation of more than one million..

http://www.spiegel.d...,822948,00.html

the last paragraph ist interesting...
they say that BW just pretend listening to the community but in fact they just want to make more money with DLCs..

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chujwamdotego

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In April Retake Mass Effect 3 movement may face unity issue.

While we are all united about necessity for Bioware to change the endings, many people have different opinions whether hopefully coming DLC is free or we should pay for it.

I fear that Bioware may play with us to crush that unity.

They'll offer us some DLC and vaguely say that it addresses our concerns about total lack of promised endings.

They'll say "it is our response for fanbase protest; buy it for 10$".

Some say "hell with it", some will outright buy DLC.

Bioware might then say that ReME3 is divided, because some of us pay for content, some not.

I fear we have only ONE chance to make it right. If they offer us only some - forgive me saying it - garbage explanation about Godchild and Normandy leaving they will say "we did want You wanted and dealt with the issue, there will no more changes".

What do You think?

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Nharia1

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Xyalon wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

*snip*
IGN
*snip*


Hey Xy, have you seen the new IGN video? Though I'm not sure if you'd want to see it, seeing as Colin is back, and by Colin, I mean the pomus stick up Colin...


Oooh, no.

Has he COMPLETELY backtracked on everything he said first time round?...because, you, know, like, that would be a first...:whistle:


Nope, he's actually sticking to his guns this time around.... which is a real surprise since I've been hearing that he's surrpoted something like this before, which means he is being a complete hipocrate... :?

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 Oh, just in case this wasn't posted, here is YET ANOTHER Forbes piece. I think I'm in love with these guys <3

http://www.forbes.co...e-easy-way-out/ 

Mass Effect 3 Ending: The Indoctrination Theory is The Easy Way Out

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SSV Scehelt pulling back for now need more missiles. Also sleep.

Keep it together we may have a period where we have to ride it out and wait but keep going. Support each other, be civil. Don't be full blown paranoid but don't take the PR stuff as truth word for word. After all it is public relations. Finally don't forget they are people too, be they Bioware employees or people who like the ending as is.

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BuddhaGeek wrote...

 Oh, just in case this wasn't posted, here is YET ANOTHER Forbes piece. I think I'm in love with these guys <3

http://www.forbes.co...e-easy-way-out/ 

Mass Effect 3 Ending: The Indoctrination Theory is The Easy Way Out


 

Forbes is all over this story... 

These are guys we need to send cupcakes too... with nice big thank you card once this is all over... good or ill

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chujwamdotego wrote...

In April Retake Mass Effect 3 movement may face unity issue.

While we are all united about necessity for Bioware to change the endings, many people have different opinions whether hopefully coming DLC is free or we should pay for it.

I fear that Bioware may play with us to crush that unity.

They'll offer us some DLC and vaguely say that it addresses our concerns about total lack of promised endings.

They'll say "it is our response for fanbase protest; buy it for 10$".

Some say "hell with it", some will outright buy DLC.

Bioware might then say that ReME3 is divided, because some of us pay for content, some not.

I fear we have only ONE chance to make it right. If they offer us only some - forgive me saying it - garbage explanation about Godchild and Normandy leaving they will say "we did want You wanted and dealt with the issue, there will no more changes".

What do You think?

I think we should worry about that only after they make a statment declaring they will fix their mistakes with the ending and how they will fix it.

By the way, need to finish a report for one of my classes. Hold the line for me people while i am out ;)

Modifié par B.Shep, 22 mars 2012 - 11:13 .


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Raz0r1205 wrote...

hey guys, a new article from the "Spiegel", german weekly news magazin, one of Europe's largest with a weekly circulation of more than one million..

http://www.spiegel.d...,822948,00.html

the last paragraph ist interesting...
they say that BW just pretend listening to the community but in fact they just want to make more money with DLCs..


Nicely written article.

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BuddhaGeek wrote...

 Oh, just in case this wasn't posted, here is YET ANOTHER Forbes piece. I think I'm in love with these guys <3

http://www.forbes.co...e-easy-way-out/ 

Mass Effect 3 Ending: The Indoctrination Theory is The Easy Way Out



Love this article! and I agree completely <3

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chujwamdotego wrote...

In April Retake Mass Effect 3 movement may face unity issue.

While we are all united about necessity for Bioware to change the endings, many people have different opinions whether hopefully coming DLC is free or we should pay for it.

I fear that Bioware may play with us to crush that unity.

They'll offer us some DLC and vaguely say that it addresses our concerns about total lack of promised endings.

They'll say "it is our response for fanbase protest; buy it for 10$".

Some say "hell with it", some will outright buy DLC.

Bioware might then say that ReME3 is divided, because some of us pay for content, some not.

I fear we have only ONE chance to make it right. If they offer us only some - forgive me saying it - garbage explanation about Godchild and Normandy leaving they will say "we did want You wanted and dealt with the issue, there will no more changes".

What do You think?

I don't mind paying for the DLC as long as it's not an explanation but an alternative ending that is better than the original one.

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This is the best video I have seen in ages!

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xHezz90 wrote...

BuddhaGeek wrote...

 Oh, just in case this wasn't posted, here is YET ANOTHER Forbes piece. I think I'm in love with these guys <3

http://www.forbes.co...e-easy-way-out/ 

Mass Effect 3 Ending: The Indoctrination Theory is The Easy Way Out



Love this article! and I agree completely <3


I love you Forbes. :wub:

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So..... in Japan ME3 (PS3 Version) has only reach Place 20. (8100 and something Copys, March 12-18).

Had this anything to do with us or Japanese Gamers just.... well, diffrent.

Modifié par Pairikas, 22 mars 2012 - 11:19 .


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 If anything should be compared to art it is this.

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MysticBinary82 wrote...

Raz0r1205 wrote...

hey guys, a new article from the "Spiegel", german weekly news magazin, one of Europe's largest with a weekly circulation of more than one million..

http://www.spiegel.d...,822948,00.html

the last paragraph ist interesting...
they say that BW just pretend listening to the community but in fact they just want to make more money with DLCs..


Nicely written article.


Indeed, they make a good war asset :)

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XTiferethX wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

In April Retake Mass Effect 3 movement may face unity issue.

While we are all united about necessity for Bioware to change the endings, many people have different opinions whether hopefully coming DLC is free or we should pay for it.

I fear that Bioware may play with us to crush that unity.

They'll offer us some DLC and vaguely say that it addresses our concerns about total lack of promised endings.

They'll say "it is our response for fanbase protest; buy it for 10$".

Some say "hell with it", some will outright buy DLC.

Bioware might then say that ReME3 is divided, because some of us pay for content, some not.

I fear we have only ONE chance to make it right. If they offer us only some - forgive me saying it - garbage explanation about Godchild and Normandy leaving they will say "we did want You wanted and dealt with the issue, there will no more changes".

What do You think?

I don't mind paying for the DLC as long as it's not an explanation but an alternative ending that is better than the original one.


For me, the problem is yet again that I have to pay first. What if it is just an explenation? Do we do another "hold the line"? arrrgh:sick:

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chujwamdotego

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XTiferethX wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

In April Retake Mass Effect 3 movement may face unity issue.

While we are all united about necessity for Bioware to change the endings, many people have different opinions whether hopefully coming DLC is free or we should pay for it.

I fear that Bioware may play with us to crush that unity.

They'll offer us some DLC and vaguely say that it addresses our concerns about total lack of promised endings.

They'll say "it is our response for fanbase protest; buy it for 10$".

Some say "hell with it", some will outright buy DLC.

Bioware might then say that ReME3 is divided, because some of us pay for content, some not.

I fear we have only ONE chance to make it right. If they offer us only some - forgive me saying it - garbage explanation about Godchild and Normandy leaving they will say "we did want You wanted and dealt with the issue, there will no more changes".

What do You think?

I don't mind paying for the DLC as long as it's not an explanation but an alternative ending that is better than the original one.


Me too (especially if it involves happy ending with LI:O ) but I fear that different opinions on this matter later on in April may damage ReME3 and would be terrible.

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AWESOME!!!! One of the most important German new magazines really did an article about the Mass Effect 3 controverse. This is really a big deal to mentioned in there. It's a really big magazine like TIME.

Don't know if my letter also helped but it's good to see such an objectivly written article... (Btw they also doubt that BioWare will really chance anything and more adjust and also states that most fans are happy with the game all in all and despite some voices are more supportive towards the game)

www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,822948,00.html

Modifié par Deschi, 22 mars 2012 - 11:21 .


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SkaldFish wrote...

AmaraDark wrote...

Nightshift, texas, checking in!

Something to help us hold the line - Miracle of Sound, the guys who did the Commander Shepard song back during ME2, have made a song for RetakeME3!

- I feel really inspired after it tbh.

And a new forbes article - http://www.forbes.co...egative-review/

I continue to be impressed by the Forbes guys -- they are doing some really important investigative work in connection with this. It's very good to see this continue to be covered by such a well-respected site. To get a notion of the significance, look at who advertises on the page. Microsoft is very selective about their ad placement.


Same here. They write intelligent, logical articles based on facts without all the name-calling a lot sites in favor of the ending seem to be doing. I knew about the Gerstmann thing a while ago... really sad that the places we go for objective criticism of games are far from objective. And it really explains the inflated game scores we always see these days.

Modifié par KLGChaos, 22 mars 2012 - 11:22 .


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Pairikas wrote...

So..... in Japan ME3 (PS3 Version) has only reach Place 20. (8100 and something Copys, March 12-18).

Had this anything to do with us or Japanese Gamers just.... well, diffrent.


I am not sure but I believe that it is a cultural thing. Japanese video games are different to those made in the western world. This may explain why it is not selling that well in Japan, the way this game is made may not satisfy the Japanese customers.

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chujwamdotego wrote...

In April Retake Mass Effect 3 movement may face unity issue.

While we are all united about necessity for Bioware to change the endings, many people have different opinions whether hopefully coming DLC is free or we should pay for it.

I fear that Bioware may play with us to crush that unity.

They'll offer us some DLC and vaguely say that it addresses our concerns about total lack of promised endings.

They'll say "it is our response for fanbase protest; buy it for 10$".

Some say "hell with it", some will outright buy DLC.

Bioware might then say that ReME3 is divided, because some of us pay for content, some not.

I fear we have only ONE chance to make it right. If they offer us only some - forgive me saying it - garbage explanation about Godchild and Normandy leaving they will say "we did want You wanted and dealt with the issue, there will no more changes".

What do You think?


It's one thing me and my friend who I frequently discuss this whole mess with worry about. I mean, I can't speak for everyone of course but if Bioware indulge us and give us the ending dlc we want, and if it does cost us money (which I'm suspecting it probably will) then I can't see many not buying it, because lets face it: Most of us want an ending fix.

I just hope that any ending fix they do is going to be sufficiently good enough and address all of the concerns we have. instead of being a text based epilogue that clarifies the ending. >.< I so hope we get more than that if they do an ending dlc.

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chujwamdotego wrote...

In April Retake Mass Effect 3 movement may face unity issue.

While we are all united about necessity for Bioware to change the endings, many people have different opinions whether hopefully coming DLC is free or we should pay for it.

I fear that Bioware may play with us to crush that unity.

They'll offer us some DLC and vaguely say that it addresses our concerns about total lack of promised endings.

They'll say "it is our response for fanbase protest; buy it for 10$".

Some say "hell with it", some will outright buy DLC.

Bioware might then say that ReME3 is divided, because some of us pay for content, some not.

I fear we have only ONE chance to make it right. If they offer us only some - forgive me saying it - garbage explanation about Godchild and Normandy leaving they will say "we did want You wanted and dealt with the issue, there will no more changes".

What do You think?


Oh I agree.  April be our own personal crucible (no pun intended, I swear!).  Most of us are standing strong and are putting our foot down, but just as the Dr. M post made a lot of people shout "Victory!" from the rooftops, there will be people who will accept any DLC just so this madness can end.  It's inevitable, unfortunately.  Keeping people invested in our cause and keeping their morale up (kudos to all the parodies, memes and fan videos, by the way) is important.

When April comes around and we see what is planned, we just have to adjust our strategy from there. There is really no way of really knowing right now what's around the corner and keeping our resolve is more crucial than ever.  "Holding the line" is apt for us because this IS going to be a long battle.

 I've been ranting and raving to my partner about this whole thing (he hates the endings as well) but he also works for a large corporation and he reminded me that there is no such thing as "immediate action" in the world of corporate business, especially ones like Bioware that are subsidiaries of larger corporations.  Things get passed through a slow chain of command and many times get delayed by corporate red tape.  With PAX on the way, the articles coming up about the endings and RME, they are pressed for time and answers and have to delay as long as they can. Sadly, it's just the nature of finance.

But you can't let it get to you!  The fight may be long, but there are so many passionate people supporting this, papers covering this, that the enthusiasm and fervor becomes contagious.  Take comfort in the people involved to hold you up because in the end, standing up for something you believe in is worth all the headaches in the world.

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honourshield wrote...

It's one thing me and my friend who I frequently discuss this whole mess with worry about. I mean, I can't speak for everyone of course but if Bioware indulge us and give us the ending dlc we want, and if it does cost us money (which I'm suspecting it probably will) then I can't see many not buying it, because lets face it: Most of us want an ending fix.

I just hope that any ending fix they do is going to be sufficiently good enough and address all of the concerns we have. instead of being a text based epilogue that clarifies the ending. >.< I so hope we get more than that if they do an ending dlc.


If they will make the dlc unfree i will wait before purchasing it. :mellow:

First i will hear from the movement how is it. :mellow:

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Pairikas wrote...

So..... in Japan ME3 (PS3 Version) has only reach Place 20. (8100 and something Copys, March 12-18).

Had this anything to do with us or Japanese Gamers just.... well, diffrent.


It may do but I suspect it is also down to being a western RPG, I may be wrong but I think that most big hitters from our side of things tend to go down like a lead balloon in Japan.