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[VivaLaWhatsername]

beyondsolo wrote...

chmarr wrote...
*snip*

I am speechless. Utterly speechless. This is probably as devastating as playing through the endings. Ouch.

Wow...just wow....

[Queenie4000]

Another article that from Pixxel of the Frag Dolls about the ME3 ending and the valid reason gamers are so upset:

http://www.fragdolls..._up_my_internet

[MordiMoro]

Goikiu wrote...

mmm,
read a news article here (Italian) -http://www.spaziogam...s-effect-3.aspx

is only a "link" to the bioware blog last statement.
Well, is only a link but i've read the "italian" comments... talking about 90 comments and so near 60 people who have bought it... (others article on that site have the same statistics) a lot of Italian People think that we are digging our grave... because if we yell "end, end, end" they will make a unfree dlc.

I cannot see intelligence inside those people... they haven't really read the statement... they have only see what they wanted to see.... however i'm sorry for those other italian people....

Report completed. 

Here in Italy the majority voted for Berlusconi... years ... ignore it.

[Bionic Weapon]

xHezz90 wrote...

beyondsolo wrote...

chmarr wrote...
*snip*

I am speechless. Utterly speechless. This is probably as devastating as playing through the endings. Ouch.

Wow...just wow....

To qoute Max Payne yet again " Things are fast going form bad to worse".

[nitefyre410]

Fragdolls War Asset Acquired..

why I do believe so.

[Xyalon]

chmarr wrote...

the geth fleet taking a pounding and a geth prime standing n the bridge of a dreadnought screaming "FOR LEGION".

I don't know why the rest was cut out, if it even was (and forgive me for doubting you but there has been so much BS flying around about removed/extra promised/future/possible content that I take everything with a pinch of salt) however I can definitely understand why that would be. I just can't see a Geth screaming something like that wihout thinking "tacky contrived bit of holywood twaddle if ever I saw it". Hell, I don't even see Geth screaming. If there was something like that at all I could only see them looking at each other and saying it very matter of factly, or possibly saying "for the creators" or something similar, in that deadpan voice of legion.

Sorry, I'm not actually trying to pick apart what you wrote, it's just that stood out to me and I actually thought "If they cut that out, I'm kinda glad"

[chujwamdotego]

Nharia1 wrote...

RPGmom28 wrote...

The combat is so incredibly fun, though. What I'm doing is playing through to the last 15 minutes again and then stopping. I wish I didn't like James so much, or Kaidan's luscious romance (I love the last kiss!), or... yeah, I can't help but be sad they screwed up the end when the rest was so awesome. 

Haha, I'm Liaramancer myself... mm, damn what a fine looking blue girl~! Damn't I want my little blue children now! Not later, now! I was promised Little Blue Children, and I want my gawd damn blue children! They said I would get closure, but no sir, I never got my closure, instead I got some weird little GodChild(StarChild) thing and no closure, just plotholes so big you could fling the enitre Milky Way through them! I mean what's the point for giving such promises, then turn around and give us a lackluster "ending"... 

Haha, my Shep romanced Ashley and I want to see human pink babies at the end But my renegade Shep romanced Liara and I might enjoy the sight of blue babies as well.

Instead the only baby we got was some glowing monkey at the end

[Ashtarth1]

silencemayday wrote...

anyone mind summing up yesterdays events for me?
i read the statement, also just found the article about patrick weekes allegedly commenting on the endings, but now i just feel bummed out anyway.. good thing i finally got myself drunk yesterday evening. (might also have talked someone into starting with me1+me2. not too sure, need to follow up on that. maybe also ask what the hell i've been talking about anyway.)

so, any other news on the front?

Patrick thing is fake.

[LTBK]

chmarr wrote...

i have also been lucky enough to work part time at CVG in the uk who got a preview version of mass effect 3 and due to an NDA i could not discuss what i had played and what i had seen.

i would want an answer to this, why was the prothean removed from the game and made into day-one DLC when the edtion we recived had it already part of the full version preview game on xbox360.

why was there a 3rd disc for the xbox version which was inacessable without a developer xbox360 console, once installed the disc used 7.4gig of space, that is 7.4 = disc 1, 7.0 gig = disc 2 and the 3rd was 7.4 = gig thats a total of 20.8 gig.

why was there weapons that were only avalible on pc and ps3 in the xbox360 version.

why was a lot of dialog's and cut scenes cut from the retail version and the biggest of all, why is there a lot of side missions removed, some of these side missions were really intresting, such as the asarii and human female who were having an affair, a side mission to either expose them to the human females husband and the assari's life partner, convincing the vol whos talking about sanctuary where you can convince them to go there or to avoid it.

and the one side mission that had me laughing was an interactive game of poker with james in dock with the refugee's, the dialog was funny and a breath of freshair, the other side mission was with the 2 c-sec guards outside purgatory.

the extended dialog narratives at the start, the extended council dialogs in the citidel, the extended dialog with anderson at the end was tear jerking and would have been pivotal.

so many cut-scenes and the extended battle scene when the "retake the earth" battle was movie grade kick ass, how often do you see a heavy damaged sword ship ramming a reaper while shooting its cannons then cut to inside where the camera pans round to show primark victus standing proud and injured shouting "if were going down, were taking these bastards with us" then it cuts to the outside where his ship impacts the reaper and explodes taking the reaper with it.

the normandy doing manuvers that is just pure unadultirated awesomness, joker going hell for leather, garrus in the cockpit on the weapons seat shooting the upgraded thanx cannons, the normandy taking a direct hit from the flying orbs and shakes it off due to the heavy upgraded kinetic shielding (which was exposed by talking to engineer adams),
tali literly ripping parts out of the walls to shut off plasma leaks.
liara using her shadow broker database to hack some of the orbs to fight for them.

the geth fleet taking a pounding and a geth prime standing n the bridge of a dreadnought screaming "FOR LEGION".

the extended battle scene should have been kept in as it would have made the endings have some meaning, also where did the 3rd option come in, the version CVG recived in january 2012 dident even have that option, even with maxed out war readyness, and when did multiplayer play be required to increase the war readyness, i know its a preview version but a single line of coding changed that in retail which i found was bizar and un-needed.

bioware if you removed the content which i have seen from the full game ONLY to sell it at a later date then this is by far the WORST EVER PR STUNT for DLC ever thought of.

not a single game company would remove and entire section of a NECESSARY INTEGRAL part of the game to sell later on.

thats like cutting the last 60 minutes of terminator 2 then telling people "oh yeah you need to pay more to see the ending which you wont see for 2 months"

this has been a PR nightmare for bioware and EA as this has actually effected the fiscal year profits due to the refunds from most of the well known outlets even from EA themself are giving refunds,

this has damaged the reputation of bioware and EA in a really bad way as the "retake mass effect" gains support due to the removal of integral missions and broken promises,

its gotten as far as raising $80,000 for the childs play charity which has gotten a LOT of positive support from stars and other game developers.

we have been called brats, attention ****s, greedy ****s and then be classed as needy spoiled brats by BIOWARE PR STAFF.

just because we are VERY vocal about what we feel about what we know is wrong only to be told "this is art".

as i said i have kept most information of what i have played / seen at CVG offices in the uk about mass effect 3 and the mystery 3rd disc has gotten me annoyied

If that's true, I'm speechless....

[B.Shep]

beyondsolo wrote...

chmarr wrote...

why was a lot of dialog's and cut scenes cut from the retail version and the biggest of all, why is there a lot of side missions removed, some of these side missions were really intresting, such as the asarii and human female who were having an affair, a side mission to either expose them to the human females husband and the assari's life partner, convincing the vol whos talking about sanctuary where you can convince them to go there or to avoid it.

and the one side mission that had me laughing was an interactive game of poker with james in dock with the refugee's, the dialog was funny and a breath of freshair, the other side mission was with the 2 c-sec guards outside purgatory.

the extended dialog narratives at the start, the extended council dialogs in the citidel, the extended dialog with anderson at the end was tear jerking and would have been pivotal.

so many cut-scenes and the extended battle scene when the "retake the earth" battle was movie grade kick ass, how often do you see a heavy damaged sword ship ramming a reaper while shooting its cannons then cut to inside where the camera pans round to show primark victus standing proud and injured shouting "if were going down, were taking these bastards with us" then it cuts to the outside where his ship impacts the reaper and explodes taking the reaper with it.

the normandy doing manuvers that is just pure unadultirated awesomness, joker going hell for leather, garrus in the cockpit on the weapons seat shooting the upgraded thanx cannons, the normandy taking a direct hit from the flying orbs and shakes it off due to the heavy upgraded kinetic shielding (which was exposed by talking to engineer adams),
tali literly ripping parts out of the walls to shut off plasma leaks.
liara using her shadow broker database to hack some of the orbs to fight for them.

the geth fleet taking a pounding and a geth prime standing n the bridge of a dreadnought screaming "FOR LEGION".

the extended battle scene should have been kept in as it would have made the endings have some meaning, also where did the 3rd option come in, the version CVG recived in january 2012 dident even have that option, even with maxed out war readyness, and when did multiplayer play be required to increase the war readyness, i know its a preview version but a single line of coding changed that in retail which i found was bizar and un-needed.

I am speechless. Utterly speechless. This is probably as devastating as playing through the endings. Ouch.

Seriously??
Are you sure all this was cut from the game?

[chmarr]

beyondsolo wrote...

chmarr wrote...

why was a lot of dialog's and cut scenes cut from the retail version and the biggest of all, why is there a lot of side missions removed, some of these side missions were really intresting, such as the asarii and human female who were having an affair, a side mission to either expose them to the human females husband and the assari's life partner, convincing the vol whos talking about sanctuary where you can convince them to go there or to avoid it.

and the one side mission that had me laughing was an interactive game of poker with james in dock with the refugee's, the dialog was funny and a breath of freshair, the other side mission was with the 2 c-sec guards outside purgatory.

the extended dialog narratives at the start, the extended council dialogs in the citidel, the extended dialog with anderson at the end was tear jerking and would have been pivotal.

so many cut-scenes and the extended battle scene when the "retake the earth" battle was movie grade kick ass, how often do you see a heavy damaged sword ship ramming a reaper while shooting its cannons then cut to inside where the camera pans round to show primark victus standing proud and injured shouting "if were going down, were taking these bastards with us" then it cuts to the outside where his ship impacts the reaper and explodes taking the reaper with it.

the normandy doing manuvers that is just pure unadultirated awesomness, joker going hell for leather, garrus in the cockpit on the weapons seat shooting the upgraded thanx cannons, the normandy taking a direct hit from the flying orbs and shakes it off due to the heavy upgraded kinetic shielding (which was exposed by talking to engineer adams),
tali literly ripping parts out of the walls to shut off plasma leaks.
liara using her shadow broker database to hack some of the orbs to fight for them.

the geth fleet taking a pounding and a geth prime standing n the bridge of a dreadnought screaming "FOR LEGION".

the extended battle scene should have been kept in as it would have made the endings have some meaning, also where did the 3rd option come in, the version CVG recived in january 2012 dident even have that option, even with maxed out war readyness, and when did multiplayer play be required to increase the war readyness, i know its a preview version but a single line of coding changed that in retail which i found was bizar and un-needed.

I am speechless. Utterly speechless. This is probably as devastating as playing through the endings. Ouch.

no sh*t sherlock, the amount of stuff they cut from the game was crazy, they said "time constraints" i call bull****, they had almost EVERYTHING in place in january for the preview copy which ment they had the game finished at the star  to mid december, they had nearly a month to edit it more and they took out some tear jerking moments, some frigging hilarious moments with joker and various othr squad members in the bridge.

edi actually had some more dialog but it was deadpan awful

[Demonburnt]

chmarr wrote...
*Snip*(too long but very nice post)

You don't happen to know if the ending was altered?

Sounds like Reviewers/Critics got a completely different ending/game to us customers.

Modifié par Demonburnt, 22 mars 2012 - 12:50 .

[Wearyanna]

chmarr wrote...

dear bioware

*snip*

Can you somehow add a reliable source to this? A filmclip or something just to put on some extra weight to what you've posted. These are disturbing news indeed, but source please.

Wearyanna out

[redfield2]

This

My ideal picture of ME3.. made by one of Korean fans-forgotmyid. thanks for such an inspiring work
Although It might be a little too sunshine and impossible 'cause of Mordin with Wrex, Region,
I stil love it.
The only prob I found is there is no Kaidan and Ash in it. ㅠㅠ

I hope I'll be able to imagine(don't have to see) my Shepard with his crew together like this
and I am so looking forward to DLC.. hoping my choices do matter at the ending after all.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

chujwamdotego wrote...

Instead the only baby we got was some glowing monkey at the end

Lol that shouldn't have made me laugh so much should it? actually as I'm typing I still grinning.....

[XXIceColdXX]

chmarr wrote...

dear bioware

i am a 37 year old network engineer and i am also an avid gamer, i have bought games on developer promises and good previews.

i have gotten all of the other bioware rpg-type games such as the dragon age series and all of the downloadable content, and also the other mass effect 1 and mass effect 2 games along with all of the other DLC (some how 2 of the other dlc has NOT turned up on my account for mass effect 2).

i pre-ordered the collectors edtion of mass effect 3 because of 3 reasons which are listed here

1)- i have the other 2 games and dlc with them

2)- it is the final of the series (which has now been debunked due to patent and copyright registrations under the bioware / electronic arts name)

3)- the biggest reason by far on why i pre-ordered the game was based on the promises made by bioware staff in interviews guaranteeing things.

"As Mass Effect 3 is the end of the planned trilogy, the developers are not constrained by the necessity of allowing the story to diverge, yet also continue into the next chapter. This will result in a story that diverges into wildly
different conclusions based on the player's actions in the first two chapters."
--Casey Hudson

"We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can't say any more than that..."
--Mike Gamble

"Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. Bioware will not do a 'Lost' and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game."
--Mike Gamble

"Pretty much everything that people want to see wrapped up, or to be given answers, will be."
--Dr. Ray Muzyka

"I’m always leery of saying there are 'optimal' endings, because I think one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are optimal for different people."
--Mike Gamble

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different based on what you would do in those situations.”
--Casey Hudson

"[The presence of the rachni] has huge consequences in Mass Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers."
--Mac Walters

"You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide some answers to these people."
--Casey Hudson

"Of course you don’t have to play
multiplayer, you can choose to play all the side-quests in
single-player and do all that stuff you’ll still get all the same endings and
same information, it’s just a totally different way of playing."
--Casey Hudson

"Mass Effect 3 is all about answering all the biggest questions in the lore, learning about the mysteries and the Protheans and the Reapers, being able to decide for yourself how all of these things come to an end.”
--Caseuy Hudson

these were printed in everything from newspapers, gaming magazines even in live interviews these promises were made.

it is these that we purchased mass effect.

i have also been lucky enough to work part time at CVG in the uk who got a preview version of mass effect 3 and due to an NDA i could not discuss what i had played and what i had seen.

i would want an answer to this, why was the prothean removed from the game and made into day-one DLC when the edtion we recived had it already part of the full version preview game on xbox360.

why was there a 3rd disc for the xbox version which was inacessable without a developer xbox360 console, once installed the disc used 7.4gig of space, that is 7.4 = disc 1, 7.0 gig = disc 2 and the 3rd was 7.4 = gig thats a total of 20.8 gig.

why was there weapons that were only avalible on pc and ps3 in the xbox360 version.

why was a lot of dialog's and cut scenes cut from the retail version and the biggest of all, why is there a lot of side missions removed, some of these side missions were really intresting, such as the asarii and human female who were having an affair, a side mission to either expose them to the human females husband and the assari's life partner, convincing the vol whos talking about sanctuary where you can convince them to go there or to avoid it.

and the one side mission that had me laughing was an interactive game of poker with james in dock with the refugee's, the dialog was funny and a breath of freshair, the other side mission was with the 2 c-sec guards outside purgatory.

the extended dialog narratives at the start, the extended council dialogs in the citidel, the extended dialog with anderson at the end was tear jerking and would have been pivotal.

so many cut-scenes and the extended battle scene when the "retake the earth" battle was movie grade kick ass, how often do you see a heavy damaged sword ship ramming a reaper while shooting its cannons then cut to inside where the camera pans round to show primark victus standing proud and injured shouting "if were going down, were taking these bastards with us" then it cuts to the outside where his ship impacts the reaper and explodes taking the reaper with it.

the normandy doing manuvers that is just pure unadultirated awesomness, joker going hell for leather, garrus in the cockpit on the weapons seat shooting the upgraded thanx cannons, the normandy taking a direct hit from the flying orbs and shakes it off due to the heavy upgraded kinetic shielding (which was exposed by talking to engineer adams),
tali literly ripping parts out of the walls to shut off plasma leaks.
liara using her shadow broker database to hack some of the orbs to fight for them.

the geth fleet taking a pounding and a geth prime standing n the bridge of a dreadnought screaming "FOR LEGION".

the extended battle scene should have been kept in as it would have made the endings have some meaning, also where did the 3rd option come in, the version CVG recived in january 2012 dident even have that option, even with maxed out war readyness, and when did multiplayer play be required to increase the war readyness, i know its a preview version but a single line of coding changed that in retail which i found was bizar and un-needed.

bioware if you removed the content which i have seen from the full game ONLY to sell it at a later date then this is by far the WORST EVER PR STUNT for DLC ever thought of.

not a single game company would remove and entire section of a NECESSARY INTEGRAL part of the game to sell later on.

thats like cutting the last 60 minutes of terminator 2 then telling people "oh yeah you need to pay more to see the ending which you wont see for 2 months"

this has been a PR nightmare for bioware and EA as this has actually effected the fiscal year profits due to the refunds from most of the well known outlets even from EA themself are giving refunds,

this has damaged the reputation of bioware and EA in a really bad way as the "retake mass effect" gains support due to the removal of integral missions and broken promises,

its gotten as far as raising $80,000 for the childs play charity which has gotten a LOT of positive support from stars and other game developers.

we have been called brats, attention ****s, greedy ****s and then be classed as needy spoiled brats by BIOWARE PR STAFF.

just because we are VERY vocal about what we feel about what we know is wrong only to be told "this is art".

as i said i have kept most information of what i have played / seen at CVG offices in the uk about mass effect 3 and the mystery 3rd disc has gotten me annoyied

Maybe if the Indoctrination Theory is correct some of the final battle content was cut to fit in after Shepard breaks free from Indoctrination and continues the fight.

[Goikiu]

MordiMoro wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

mmm,
read a news article here (Italian) -http://www.spaziogam...s-effect-3.aspx

is only a "link" to the bioware blog last statement.
Well, is only a link but i've read the "italian" comments... talking about 90 comments and so near 60 people who have bought it... (others article on that site have the same statistics) a lot of Italian People think that we are digging our grave... because if we yell "end, end, end" they will make a unfree dlc.

I cannot see intelligence inside those people... they haven't really read the statement... they have only see what they wanted to see.... however i'm sorry for those other italian people....

Report completed. 

Here in Italy the majority voted for Berlusconi... years ... ignore it.

True,
however people need to know a lot of thing about Italy to know why they have talked that way.
I'm feeling sorry for them. 

Most of people in italy (like 95%) are sure that "VideoGames" are for kids, all kinds of game, are only for kids (for them). They don't look at the Pegi image when they buy some, so they think that will fit their 12-13 yo child/s...

They're following too much sports/politics too, that have made 95% of italian ... mentally old , a game isn't something only young do. Is something like going out with friends to kill the time, however some awesome games have a great story behind them. Like Baldur's Gate to make an example. 

Even my mother when i've replyed to her about this game... 

me: "It's a good game, however it's end is like kissing your own sister."
she: "Is that bad?" (She's near 60 years old)
me: "Well, it's like doing 120+ hours to make your story and then make it into garbage"
she: "Was better not to buy it then"

If my mother can do that much i think those "commenters" can at least try to read english don't you think? 

[nitefyre410]

chmarr wrote...

i have also been lucky enough to work part time at CVG in the uk who got a preview version of mass effect 3 and due to an NDA i could not discuss what i had played and what i had seen.

i would want an answer to this, why was the prothean removed from the game and made into day-one DLC when the edtion we recived had it already part of the full version preview game on xbox360.

why was there a 3rd disc for the xbox version which was inacessable without a developer xbox360 console, once installed the disc used 7.4gig of space, that is 7.4 = disc 1, 7.0 gig = disc 2 and the 3rd was 7.4 = gig thats a total of 20.8 gig.

why was there weapons that were only avalible on pc and ps3 in the xbox360 version.

why was a lot of dialog's and cut scenes cut from the retail version and the biggest of all, why is there a lot of side missions removed, some of these side missions were really intresting, such as the asarii and human female who were having an affair, a side mission to either expose them to the human females husband and the assari's life partner, convincing the vol whos talking about sanctuary where you can convince them to go there or to avoid it.

and the one side mission that had me laughing was an interactive game of poker with james in dock with the refugee's, the dialog was funny and a breath of freshair, the other side mission was with the 2 c-sec guards outside purgatory.

the extended dialog narratives at the start, the extended council dialogs in the citidel, the extended dialog with anderson at the end was tear jerking and would have been pivotal.

so many cut-scenes and the extended battle scene when the "retake the earth" battle was movie grade kick ass, how often do you see a heavy damaged sword ship ramming a reaper while shooting its cannons then cut to inside where the camera pans round to show primark victus standing proud and injured shouting "if were going down, were taking these bastards with us" then it cuts to the outside where his ship impacts the reaper and explodes taking the reaper with it.

the normandy doing manuvers that is just pure unadultirated awesomness, joker going hell for leather, garrus in the cockpit on the weapons seat shooting the upgraded thanx cannons, the normandy taking a direct hit from the flying orbs and shakes it off due to the heavy upgraded kinetic shielding (which was exposed by talking to engineer adams),
tali literly ripping parts out of the walls to shut off plasma leaks.
liara using her shadow broker database to hack some of the orbs to fight for them.

the geth fleet taking a pounding and a geth prime standing n the bridge of a dreadnought screaming "FOR LEGION".

the extended battle scene should have been kept in as it would have made the endings have some meaning, also where did the 3rd option come in, the version CVG recived in january 2012 dident even have that option, even with maxed out war readyness, and when did multiplayer play be required to increase the war readyness, i know its a preview version but a single line of coding changed that in retail which i found was bizar and un-needed.

bioware if you removed the content which i have seen from the full game ONLY to sell it at a later date then this is by far the WORST EVER PR STUNT for DLC ever thought of.

not a single game company would remove and entire section of a NECESSARY INTEGRAL part of the game to sell later on.

thats like cutting the last 60 minutes of terminator 2 then telling people "oh yeah you need to pay more to see the ending which you wont see for 2 months"

this has been a PR nightmare for bioware and EA as this has actually effected the fiscal year profits due to the refunds from most of the well known outlets even from EA themself are giving refunds,

this has damaged the reputation of bioware and EA in a really bad way as the "retake mass effect" gains support due to the removal of integral missions and broken promises,

its gotten as far as raising $80,000 for the childs play charity which has gotten a LOT of positive support from stars and other game developers.

we have been called brats, attention ****s, greedy ****s and then be classed as needy spoiled brats by BIOWARE PR STAFF.

just because we are VERY vocal about what we feel about what we know is wrong only to be told "this is art".

as i said i have kept most information of what i have played / seen at CVG offices in the uk about mass effect 3 and the mystery 3rd disc has gotten me annoyied

If this is true, If all  of  this is true... i have no words... they cut all of that... WHY?  

Can you get proof.. screen shot video, this could be big. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 22 mars 2012 - 12:51 .

[Jere85]

65th division reporting, was checking alot of stuff on the phone without being able to reply... agh i need to be here... Anything new? ive seen alot of banter about our movement for no reason, anything else?

Holding the line.

[M2S SOLID JOSH]

i just had to put this on here ...still makes me kinda sad when its over though 

Modifié par M2S SOLID JOSH, 22 mars 2012 - 12:51 .

[chmarr]

as i said it was a preview copy they had recived on 3 discs, oh and it was the collectors edtion which had much more stuff than the retail version.

the 3rd disc seemed to be content locked for a developer console only, so if they dident have a dev console hooked up then there was no chance to see what was on it, for all i know it could have been missing or addtion content or might have been a master play disc that allowed you to play the whole game without disc swapping, i just dont know, but the prothean was fully integrated into the actual game and not dlc

[elirian_19]

If they offer me an ending that makes sense, be it indoctrination theory or something else, then I will buy it because, at the end of the day, it took work and man hours to create. Will that make things better between myself and BioWare? No. I'll definitely think twice before I ever pre-order a BioWare game and I will be reading many comments (not reviewer comments as we've seen we can't trust them) before making the purchase.

If they offer me DLC that foreshadows Starchild and his role in the game or a few more scenes at the end, but everything still basically remains the same then no, I won't buy it. I won't even download it for free and I'll be done with BioWare for good. Which would be a shame because I still love David and his team.

[chmarr]

hell some of the stuff i mentioned i couldent make that up even if i tried, the whole battle scene was cgi and the action was indeed movie grade, like the battle scene in ME2, that was long and awesome but the retail version was....................short really short, i was expecting to see the same action i saw in the preview.

side missions cut, dialogs cut, cutscenes cut, they took so much out it made no sense as to why they did it unless they removed it all for DLC / patches

[Nephilim5]

chmarr wrote...

as i said it was a preview copy they had recived on 3 discs, oh and it was the collectors edtion which had much more stuff than the retail version.

the 3rd disc seemed to be content locked for a developer console only, so if they dident have a dev console hooked up then there was no chance to see what was on it, for all i know it could have been missing or addtion content or might have been a master play disc that allowed you to play the whole game without disc swapping, i just dont know, but the prothean was fully integrated into the actual game and not dlc

It would be helpful to have an independently verified source check this.  Otherwise, it's just hearsay and could be construed as rumormongering.  

[Demonburnt]

chmarr wrote...

hell some of the stuff i mentioned i couldent make that up even if i tried, the whole battle scene was cgi and the action was indeed movie grade, like the battle scene in ME2, that was long and awesome but the retail version was....................short really short, i was expecting to see the same action i saw in the preview.

side missions cut, dialogs cut, cutscenes cut, they took so much out it made no sense as to why they did it unless they removed it all for DLC / patches

Mate im getting sick of gaming companies doing stuff like this.... time to pull out my pirate hat and rum bottle once again me thinks.