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[Lucifer_Cheney]

Based on the progression of this thread, I'd say the stages of grief are transitioning from bargaining to depression. By the weekend, I predict most of the nerdrage (myself included) will move towards acceptance.

Modifié par Lucifer_Cheney, 01 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[Chief Savage Man]

CrashTagger wrote...

I wonder if people would be in such an uproar if BioWare including another ending, complete with all the rainbows and unicorns (not literally, you get the point), along with the current ones, and then said "the dark one is canonical". Would people still complain then? Knowing the gaming community, I say yes. We all just like to complain endlessly.

a lot of people don't give a **** about canon

isn't it canon for wrex to die?

[Deludedcon]

Gandalf.lotr wrote...

Just a few remarks

Deludedcon wrote...

If there is a "single" player option to get the best ending, i'm curious to know exactly what that is. If he's supposedly done all this, I take it back...but again, it's something to consider. I have nothing against the people who have the game, I just am not sure how true what is what right now. I mean, what is it that you have to do single player that doesn't involved the GAW/MP to get the "best ending" anyway? Another thought to consider.

Yes there is a way. You only have to play the singleplayer and solve the sidequests to raise your readiness level.

Now for some other points. Many have have been saying destroying the relays will ruin the galaxy. At first I jumped at this and felt everything was in ruins and agreed, but after reading up quite a bit of commentary - people are right. Sure, we can't get to the other Star Clusters as easily, especially across the galaxy, but at least on Earth (if Earth IS still there in your playthrough) we are probably close enough to some other worlds that we can get there via FTL. Now the whole deal with all "Reaper" tech being destroyed...it may take sometime, but if you've got enough people working on it to fix it - well, I mean, there is hope. But this is just a throw out, basically to quell some minds. FTL can be fixed and if you've got people with you who have an idea how it works. Say, the people up on the Citadel or the aliens and humans now piddling around on Earth.

When I listen to the audiofiles of the old man in the end who's talking to the boy it seems as if many years later there still isn't any space travel.

Also, despite everything...are the Keepers still alive? They'd fix that thing up anyway even if it is in ruins.

At least in the destroy ending the citadel blows up, so in 1 out of 3 they are dead.

Alright! Thanks for clearing that up! I didn't know the audio file with the old man talking had been leaked. That is new to me. : /

And blah on the MP. It was just a hopeful resolution there. Thanks to you all for clearing that up as well.

[DifferentD17]

CrashTagger wrote...

I wonder if people would be in such an uproar if BioWare including another ending, complete with all the rainbows and unicorns (not literally, you get the point), along with the current ones, and then said "the dark one is canonical". Would people still complain then? Knowing the gaming community, I say yes. We all just like to complain endlessly.

It doesn't seem like they did, but I  would welcome any new ending at this point.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

CrashTagger wrote...

I wonder if people would be in such an uproar if BioWare including another ending, complete with all the rainbows and unicorns (not literally, you get the point), along with the current ones, and then said "the dark one is canonical". Would people still complain then? Knowing the gaming community, I say yes. We all just like to complain endlessly.

Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver did that nicely. Although the good ending was the sacrifice and the bad ending had the main hero staying alive and (seemingly?) evil.

[CrashTagger]

Chief Savage Man wrote...

CrashTagger wrote...

I wonder if people would be in such an uproar if BioWare including another ending, complete with all the rainbows and unicorns (not literally, you get the point), along with the current ones, and then said "the dark one is canonical". Would people still complain then? Knowing the gaming community, I say yes. We all just like to complain endlessly.

a lot of people don't give a **** about canon

isn't it canon for wrex to die?

So a lot of people wouldn't buy Mass Effect 4, which would pick up from 3's ending, i.e. complete devastation? I think they would, and they would moan about how it's not what they want.

[Deludedcon]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Deludedcon wrote...


So, let's see. A lot of the "endings" have been exposed. Videos have been pulled, but NOT the gameplay. Before blowing up on that about the "space" versions, did this guy REALLY get the "best" ending? Consider this. Are the mutiplayer servers for the main game even up?

Why does multiplayer matter? It shouldn't.

It shouldn't really. I'm not big in MP. But I liked MEs version. BUT again, like I made note in earlier pages I read somewhere about how the outcome is justified. This is all heresay though, so, I have no real basic fact, just hypotheticals. Was trying to find something "good" there, basically. : /

[DifferentD17]

Deludedcon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...


Why does multiplayer matter? It shouldn't.

It shouldn't really. I'm not big in MP. But I liked MEs version. BUT again, like I made note in earlier pages I read somewhere about how the outcome is justified. This is all heresay though, so, I have no real basic fact, just hypotheticals. Was trying to find something "good" there, basically. : /

Ah, I wish there was a sliver of hope as well.
The guy that played it played it twice with NG+, and he said her did every mission he could.

[Sia_Sinblade]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

You know what would be really funny?

After release, the people spoilering now come out and say: Haha, tricked ya. TROLLOLOL

Not likely, but it would be hilarious. XD

P.S.: I have no problems with the endings. I'm gonna be epicly depressed and simultaneously awed. It takes some guts to end a series like this on a note that the writers think is appropriate but they know fans will hate.

Not saying it's a smart thing...just saying it's nice to see someone sticking to their story, even if people may not be happy with it. Also not excusing the marketing and other BS that has been released.

Divinity 2 - Ego Draconis is one of my most memorable games. Not because of epic gameplay or awesome story...but because it completely and utterly shocked me with the ending.

You mean how the Dragon Knight swept the floor with the ***** who tricked us earlier? The cat from Divine Divinity was also a nice touch.

And the ending makes no sense: merge seems like space magic out of the blue, Normandy stranded is both stupid in execution and the implications are horrible, ...

It´s like the writing team ignored the lore and the tone of the setting to troll us.

I'm talking about the "You are betrayed and imprisoned for eternity" ending. I have not played the Expansion.

As for the ending not making sense...how would you know that? You say space-magic out of the blue, I say Reaper Tech. Normandy stranded is stupid in execution why? Because you don't like it? The implications are horrible...yes, so?

The tone of the setting was:

"...this is about survival..." Voila, civilizations have survived and will now grow without Reaper Tech
"...even if we win you and I won't get to see the parade..." Well whaddaya know, Shepard is a prophet, too.
"...if the Reapers attack in force, we are just not ready..." damn right we aren't.

So I think the tone is pretty much right there. You accomplish the mission, which, from the getgo, has been about saving the galaxy from the continued threat of the reapers. It sucks that you don't get to see the parade...but that doesn't mean it makes no sense.

[DifferentD17]

Tesclo wrote...

I bet I know how this is going to turn out. New Mass Effect every year with new multiplayer maps and a 5 hour campaign. EA's very own CoD.

Doesn't seem impossible. Alot less work alot more money.

[Deludedcon]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Deludedcon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...


Why does multiplayer matter? It shouldn't.

It shouldn't really. I'm not big in MP. But I liked MEs version. BUT again, like I made note in earlier pages I read somewhere about how the outcome is justified. This is all heresay though, so, I have no real basic fact, just hypotheticals. Was trying to find something "good" there, basically. : /

Ah, I wish there was a sliver of hope as well.
The guy that played it played it twice with NG+, and he said her did every mission he could.

Hrrrm...well, that bites. I don't really know what to say on that front either...ah well, I guess that huge write up was for nothing really. At least I got it out of my system. Le sigh.

I suppose we'll see soon enough...and also, if it's really this tragic can cross fingers and hope they make a DLC. 

I'm still lost as to how humanity is left with no space travel after this event though and grandpa is left telling junior about how "WE USED TO BE OUT THERE SONNY" or something like that. That part is still puzzling.

[Elegana]

CrashTagger wrote...

I wonder if people would be in such an uproar if BioWare including another ending, complete with all the rainbows and unicorns (not literally, you get the point), along with the current ones, and then said "the dark one is canonical". Would people still complain then? Knowing the gaming community, I say yes. We all just like to complain endlessly.

They can't say "the dark one is canonical" because for the entire series, Casey and everyone would say "Your Shepard is canon".

[Lucifer_Cheney]

Tesclo wrote...

I bet I know how this is going to turn out. New Mass Effect every year with new multiplayer maps and a 5 hour campaign. EA's very own CoD.

Nope. Instead, you'll have the "privilege" of paying $15 bucks a month (or international currency equivalent) to play a Mass Effect MMO. Yippie-Dee!!

Modifié par Lucifer_Cheney, 01 mars 2012 - 03:34 .

[dw99027]

Pretty much describes the meaning of life. There's none.

Nice. Way to spread the good word in a place full of teenagers. I'm not going to engage you in a philosophical debate about how 'life' is fundamentally different from 'my life', I just ask that you be more considerate of those who do not or do not wish to partake in such gloomy thinking.

We have enough problems already, 30 year olds like us telling youngsters that life is worth jack doesn't help. Sorry if I sound callous.

[Sashimi_taco]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Deludedcon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...


Why does multiplayer matter? It shouldn't.

It shouldn't really. I'm not big in MP. But I liked MEs version. BUT again, like I made note in earlier pages I read somewhere about how the outcome is justified. This is all heresay though, so, I have no real basic fact, just hypotheticals. Was trying to find something "good" there, basically. : /

Ah, I wish there was a sliver of hope as well.
The guy that played it played it twice with NG+, and he said her did every mission he could.

Xio? What? When? How? There is no way he has had enough time to do 2 full playthroughs. the story alone is 15-20 hours. And he has spent most of the time on BSN giving away spoilers. 

[cerberus1701]

I suspect that after all this, you may well end up getting your Unicorn DLC. Don't hold your breath, but if you hold to the notion that EA is simply a nest of moneygrubbers, don't think that they don't see right now that they could put together 30 minutes of content, slap $15, on it and there'd be server crashes in the rush for it.

[mopotter]

Capeo wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Tesclo wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

You're all acting like Bioware wouldn't just handwave away the ending of an entire game if they wanted to. If EA wants another Mass Effect game, they will get another Mass Effect game.

At this point, I wouldn't put it past them.

If the endings are as they seem they have to know no amount of marketing will get them good sales, not after throwing away common sense and lore to produce such disasters.

Flying space monkeys could shoot from Shep's ass and tickle the Reapers to death as the ending and this game is still going to sell incredibly well.  It's their next game that may be effected by the disenchanted fanbase.

I agree.  I don't think they will have any problem with sales of ME3.  I'm not canceling my pre-order, still a small hopes that somewhere along the line, there is an ending that they are managing to keep quiet about.  

It's future sales that, for me, this will affect.  I will not pre-order future games if ME 3 causes me anger and depression with each ending.  Once I no longer feel i can trust their vision of hope for the future, that trust is gone.  I may purchase future games, but not pre order.  The purchase will come after the game has been out and I find out what they did with the ending(s). 

[A Great Biotic Wind]

dw99027 wrote...

Pretty much describes the meaning of life. There's none.

Nice. Way to spread the good word in a place full of teenagers. I'm not going to engage you in a philosophical debate about how 'life' is fundamentally different from 'my life', I just ask that you be more considerate of those who do not or do not wish to partake in such gloomy thinking.

We have enough problems already, 30 year olds like us telling youngsters that life is worth jack doesn't help. Sorry if I sound callous.

Please stay on topic:lol:(also Teenagers [like myself] aren't going to change their views on life because of a forum post, we're not five. Please be more respectful to the youth).

Also; doesn anybody know how much Readiness it takes to get the Ultimate Paragon ending?

[DifferentD17]

Deludedcon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Deludedcon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...


Why does multiplayer matter? It shouldn't.

It shouldn't really. I'm not big in MP. But I liked MEs version. BUT again, like I made note in earlier pages I read somewhere about how the outcome is justified. This is all heresay though, so, I have no real basic fact, just hypotheticals. Was trying to find something "good" there, basically. : /

Ah, I wish there was a sliver of hope as well.
The guy that played it played it twice with NG+, and he said her did every mission he could.

Hrrrm...well, that bites. I don't really know what to say on that front either...ah well, I guess that huge write up was for nothing really. At least I got it out of my system. Le sigh.

I suppose we'll see soon enough...and also, if it's really this tragic can cross fingers and hope they make a DLC. 

I'm still lost as to how humanity is left with no space travel after this event though and grandpa is left telling junior about how "WE USED TO BE OUT THERE SONNY" or something like that. That part is still puzzling.

I really hope Bioware is hiding some secret ending somehow, but very unlikely. It's good to vent.
The whole ending makes no sense.

[Huyna]

CrashTagger wrote...

I wonder if people would be in such an uproar if BioWare including another ending, complete with all the rainbows and unicorns (not literally, you get the point), along with the current ones, and then said "the dark one is canonical". Would people still complain then? Knowing the gaming community, I say yes. We all just like to complain endlessly.

I, personally, would'not. Developer stated that we are creators of our own story of our own Sheppard, thus making our own path. There is Bioware cannon, for possible future games in ME-franchise and there is our personal "canon" for ME1-ME2-ME3 Sheppard's story.

Modifié par Huyna, 01 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[Fafner_Ni]

Lucifer_Cheney wrote...

Tesclo wrote...

I bet I know how this is going to turn out. New Mass Effect every year with new multiplayer maps and a 5 hour campaign. EA's very own CoD.

Nope. Instead, you'll have the "privilege" of paying $15 bucks a month (or international currency equivalent) to play a Mass Effect MMO. Yippie-Dee!!

I think it'll be both.