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[Wearyanna]

Mastermadskills wrote...

MORE FUEL FOR YOUR FIRE:

Our LI is now stranded on a planet being forced to get down with Joker to save us from extinction.

So it, in my playthrough, comes down to Joker and Kaidan trying to have babies with Javik to repopulate, the horror! *lol*

Wearyanna out

[Aryana70]

MysticBinary82 wrote...

Mastermadskills wrote...

MORE FUEL FOR YOUR FIRE:

Our LI is now stranded on a planet being forced to get down with Joker to save us from extinction.

Well he can try but I believe with Kaidan as my LI it is going to be hard to have babies.

LOL.......

[-PG-Skyre]

Wells, destroying the Reapers should have been the good ending...after all, that was the entire point of the series. However apparently the guy that was forcibly mutilate his troops to indoctrinate them and would even kidnap innocent civilians to do the same to them was, in fact, the good guy...and had the right idea to take over them (Being sarcastic btw, lol).

[TamiBx]

baronkohinar wrote...

I don't know about anyone else but, atleast with me (on the 360), I started on the first disc (of course), then chose to start with the genephage mission, I believe, resulting in an almost immediate switch to disc 2. From there, I stayed on disc 2 for the rest of the game, until the final mission (cerberus base/earth) had me switch discs one final time, so only two changes for me.

Yes, same for me. I was even wondering why it asked for disc 2  so early and never asked for disc 1 until the very ending.

[Serlith_]

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

[baronkohinar]

TamiBx wrote...

Have you also noticced that disc 2 is used way more often than disc 1? If you change it as soon as you get the Grissom Academy mission, you will never have to put disc 1 again until you go do the final battle...

Nope, you're right, now that you mention it, it was Grissom Academy, this was my experience as well.

[nitefyre410]

Wearyanna wrote...

Mastermadskills wrote...

MORE FUEL FOR YOUR FIRE:

Our LI is now stranded on a planet being forced to get down with Joker to save us from extinction.

So it, in my playthrough, comes down to Joker and Kaidan trying to have babies with Javik to repopulate, the horror! *lol*

Wearyanna out

  

Dear god. 

[Phoenix NL]

Xyalon wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Have you also noticced that disc 2 is used way more often than disc 1? If you change it as soon as you get the Grissom Academy mission, you will never have to put disc 1 again until you go do the final battle...

Actually I had to swap disc about 4 times. Maybe I just did the side missions in a funny order...

I had that problem too, it got a bit annoying!

[tiger-tron]

Serlith_ wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

I wouldn't take any notice of the Gamefaq polls.

[nitefyre410]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

Wells, destroying the Reapers should have been the good ending...after all, that was the entire point of the series. However apparently the guy that was forcibly mutilate his troops to indoctrinate them and would even kidnap innocent civilians to do the same to them was, in fact, the good guy...and had the right idea to take over them (Being sarcastic btw, lol).

 

What sadistic was that Destory ending ... destorys EDI and the Geth too... for NO DAMN REASON.  The Reapers have there own code...why not just target  it that...but NNOOOOO... some one at Bioware fancied themselves as  Morden day Confusicus...  <_<

[Goikiu]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

Actually I had to swap disc about 4 times. Maybe I just did the side missions in a funny order...

I had that problem too, it got a bit annoying!

You're lucky... in my italian CE edition (xbox) i cannot do Grissom Academy or (by bug) my xbox will freeze 

[Phoenix NL]

SkaldFish wrote...

http://www.computera...lly-won/?page=1

Appears to be new. Apologies if already posted.

Oooh we're militant now - good to know.

[Crazed Weevil]

TamiBx wrote...

baronkohinar wrote...

I don't know about anyone else but, atleast with me (on the 360), I started on the first disc (of course), then chose to start with the genephage mission, I believe, resulting in an almost immediate switch to disc 2. From there, I stayed on disc 2 for the rest of the game, until the final mission (cerberus base/earth) had me switch discs one final time, so only two changes for me.

Yes, same for me. I was even wondering why it asked for disc 2  so early and never asked for disc 1 until the very ending.

Was that a US/UK/EU version of the game or a 'localized' version for Brazil (I assume you're from Brazil judging from your fleet banner)?

[EmEr77]

I knew this was going to happen. Eventually the BioWare team was going to pull the "artistic integrity" card on us. Which is fine. I am both a writer, and an illustrator, and I enjoy having creative freedoms to produce what pleases me, and what makes my soul happy, regardless of what the people around me may think. To an extent, that's fine. But if I plan on producing my art for the masses, I better be prepared to gracefully accept the criticism that comes with it. That's just what happens when you take the gamble to be an artist in a public forum of any kind. Video games, movies, books, etc.

Case in point: I just went through a workshop for one of my stories. A workshop, is a forum of like-minded people, in this case, writers, who all read your story in advance and come and talk about it for a few hours. That's just a few hours. They give you their feedback, how they received it, what they appreciated or didn't appreciate about it, while I carefully take notes. Is it personal? Hell yes it's personal. This is my work, this is my brainchild. Is progress something that is achieved in a vacuum? No. It's not. For my own personal growth, it is imperative that I gain the necessary help from others to succeed. Not just anybody mind you, but people who share in my passions, and people who are actually willing to dedicate time to my work.

What is going on right now with the ending of this game is a workshop, on a much grander scale, with those who are "workshopping" the game being the players themselves. I'm not the only writer out there who sat back and looked at the ending of this game from a WRITERLY standpoint and said "there are massive plot holes, inconsistencies with character, and a surprising lack of continuity with this ending; completely unbecoming of the previous caliber of work we've come to expect of this company and its creative team."

Artistic integrity? Perhaps. However, I find it very difficult to believe much in the idea of "integrity" when it merely translates to stubbornness. Sure you have artistic greats like Picasso and Hemingway who were only recognized for their genius after their time, but is this moment truly anything like those men? I actually do not believe so. For the simple fact that the excellence of BioWare is something that has been recognized already, and because of this fact, they have a duty not only to their fans, but to themselves to continue to live up to the quality that THEY THEMSELVES have established. It's not our fault these people are nothing but constant displays of excellence and creative genius.

But no one is perfect, and it's important to remember that when someone falls short, there is more honor to be had in admitting fault, and accepting the help and positive constructive feedback of those who are actually giving such (which is a massive amount of the community, the numbers of flamers compared to the civil individuals is staggeringly different) because they care. What BioWare did was introduce an entirely new element to playing video games, one that was sort of tried in the past with other titles and other companies, but never fully realized... until BioWare.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for the BioWare team, and I'm not a fancy high-paid high-profile writer or illustrator, but I do know and value enough of my craft to count myself as someone able to give well thought out constructive criticism.

The ending of this game was beautiful, and absolutely intense. It is not something to be belittled--but it belonged to an entirely different story line, and an entirely different set of circumstances. Instead of an ending that displayed the culmination of work between both the development team and the gamers themselves, it seemed to cut out the gaming community entirely. Never mind what the critics say... critics can be bought. I look to the indie critics, the lesser-named publications, even the no-names--the ones who do this for the passion of it, and they are not happy. They are a reflection of the overall feeling of the community.

The real meaning of artistic integrity is being willing to admit both the wonders and flaws in your work, and accepting the opinion of those who you take the chance of showing it to. It is believing enough in yourself to know that no amount of money or notoriety means you are perfect--you are a being who is always growing and changing, and that if you ever hope to progress you cannot do so in a vacuum.

A nifty piece of advice that one of my professors gave me about story writing:

"Never go outside of the story to find an explanation. If it's not in the story, it's not in the story."

Everything that's being theorized, is currently, not in the story. At least--not in the story WE know.

[SkaldFish]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Wearyanna wrote...

Mastermadskills wrote...

MORE FUEL FOR YOUR FIRE:

Our LI is now stranded on a planet being forced to get down with Joker to save us from extinction.

So it, in my playthrough, comes down to Joker and Kaidan trying to have babies with Javik to repopulate, the horror! *lol*

Wearyanna out

  

Dear god. 

I'm gonna guess the Normandy med bay doesn't have the equipment for that kind of ... um... procedure.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

SSV Auckland signing off for the night I need some sleep

Hold the line

[mulder1199]

LadyMarisa wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

http://www.computera...lly-won/?page=1

Appears to be new. Apologies if already posted.

I stopped reading after I saw:

(and, to be fair, raised a lot of money for charidee)

I don't claim to have impeccable spelling and grammar but I do expect reviews I read to not hit me with obvious mistakes. Even if it was meant to be humurous on their part it backfired.

he could just be a big sublime fan....

[The Big Palooka]

TamiBx wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I agree but lets get back on topic before we get moaned at again.

Actually I'm curious about something anyway, why do a lot of people consider the synthesis ending to being a "good" ending?

Probably because EDI and the Geth survive. 

I find it the worst. I can't let my Shepard to "sacrifice" the whole galaxy humanity/not AI life just to save EDI and the geth. Sad, yes, but if that's the only option...

This here is the reason I couldn't take my main paragon Shep through the ending at all, I had to just quit the game.  None of the options were anything she would be willing to do in a hundred years.

So yeah, Synthesis is the 'best' ending in that it's the only one that the godchild promises will create peace, but it creates peace by, apparently, making it so that nobody has to try and get along anymore, which is just such an ethical/philosophical mess.

[Feraiin]

Serlith_ wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

Remember, only the last two options rule out change, the majority of voters in there are in the Yes/Probably/Maybe department, the "fine as is" crowd is still in the minority there.

[baronkohinar]

So, folks, what's everyone thinking? Are all these erroneous "endings are definitely getting changed" articles helping us or hindering us? Bypassing how they arrived at that conclusion in the first place (misreading/laziness, reading what they want to believe into it, or another smoke screen), will people think this means things are already resolved (and therefore won't join our movement), or will this actually raise awareness by affording us some public vindication?

Modifié par baronkohinar, 22 mars 2012 - 02:08 .

[Atrocity]

Xyalon wrote...

Troglyte wrote...

Does any one know, Was the ending tested in front of any humans before release?
(Ones who had also played through Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, as well.)

Oh sure Krogans would love it, I blew up the galaxy! Using Blue!! I love it!!! Poetic like me!!!!

As far as I know, Harbinger himself assumed direct control of the Beta Testing. He oversaw the ending personally and saw that it was good.

This made me laugh hard, harder than the shepard/collector valentines day comic thingy.

[TamiBx]

Crazed Weevil wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

baronkohinar wrote...

I don't know about anyone else but, atleast with me (on the 360), I started on the first disc (of course), then chose to start with the genephage mission, I believe, resulting in an almost immediate switch to disc 2. From there, I stayed on disc 2 for the rest of the game, until the final mission (cerberus base/earth) had me switch discs one final time, so only two changes for me.

Yes, same for me. I was even wondering why it asked for disc 2  so early and never asked for disc 1 until the very ending.

Was that a US/UK/EU version of the game or a 'localized' version for Brazil (I assume you're from Brazil judging from your fleet banner)?

Nope, I live in the US. haha.
Yeah, I'm Brazilian but I live Missouri~ (when I'm not at school) 

And even in Brazil, I'm pretty sure they get the US version; they don't have a BR Protuguese version of the game...(not that I know of)

[elirian_19]

Mastermadskills wrote...

MORE FUEL FOR YOUR FIRE:

Our LI is now stranded on a planet being forced to get down with Joker to save us from extinction.

The Asari might stand a chance of surviving since Liara can reproduce with every surviving member of the crew, but humanity is pretty much screwed after Shepard "saved" them.

[Nharia1]

I'm going to drop out of contact for 8-10 hours, I'll report back later. Alpha Company Sniper over and out!

[Pilzz]

Serlith_ wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

Since you can vote as many times as you want.. Can only imagine someone spamming the No choice

Modifié par Pilzz, 22 mars 2012 - 02:08 .