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[shepskisaac]

LadyMarisa wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

http://www.computera...lly-won/?page=1

Appears to be new. Apologies if already posted.

I stopped reading after I saw:

You should read it full. It's a good piece with lots of good points. Unless you're a "change the entire ending!!!!111" fanatic of course, then you will hate it.

[Xyalon]

Phoenix NL wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

http://www.computera...lly-won/?page=1

Appears to be new. Apologies if already posted.

Oooh we're militant now - good to know.

Although I hesitate at the authors use of that word, you have to admit that in all fairness that article is well balanced and defends us on more than one occasion.

Don't pull a PR and just focus on the most immediate negative aspect and use it to rule out the rest of the argument.

[LadyMarisa]

I haven'i seen it mentioned but I don't manage to keep up with every post or off site article written. The first time I encountered the endings, I got a critical mission failure and the Crucible was destroyed. Why? Because I took too long to make a decision I sat there going, nah, that;s a joke / indoctrination attempt/ etc. I went linping around the screen looking for something else to click on and would up just auto dying.

Modifié par LadyMarisa, 22 mars 2012 - 02:09 .

[SkaldFish]

Picked up now by the Washington Post:

Mass Effect 3: Creators address ending backlash

[mulder1199]

The Big Palooka wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I agree but lets get back on topic before we get moaned at again.

Actually I'm curious about something anyway, why do a lot of people consider the synthesis ending to being a "good" ending?

Probably because EDI and the Geth survive. 

I find it the worst. I can't let my Shepard to "sacrifice" the whole galaxy humanity/not AI life just to save EDI and the geth. Sad, yes, but if that's the only option...

This here is the reason I couldn't take my main paragon Shep through the ending at all, I had to just quit the game.  None of the options were anything she would be willing to do in a hundred years.

So yeah, Synthesis is the 'best' ending in that it's the only one that the godchild promises will create peace, but it creates peace by, apparently, making it so that nobody has to try and get along anymore, which is just such an ethical/philosophical mess.

all my sheps, paragon-renegade-renagon-paragade what ever they are only have 1 choice....they'd rather die than let the reapers live, or do what TIM would do, or take away anybody's humanity.....

so it's destroy, hopefullly soon, it'll be something else (like telling elroy to suck it)

[cyric085]

Pilzz wrote...

Serlith_ wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

Since you can vote as many times as you want?.. Can only imagine someone spamming the No choiche

its even better its automatic whenever you choose the yes option the no option gets a vote or 2 .

[LethesDeep]

Phoenix NL wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

http://www.computera...lly-won/?page=1

Appears to be new. Apologies if already posted.

Oooh we're militant now - good to know.

Yeah, he uses poorly worded descriptions of the movement throughout the whole article. He also doesn't seem to know our whole purpose. I honestly can't tell if he's against us or if he's standing with us while slapping us and calling us names.

[Silasqtx]

elirian_19 wrote...

Mastermadskills wrote...

MORE FUEL FOR YOUR FIRE:

Our LI is now stranded on a planet being forced to get down with Joker to save us from extinction.

The Asari might stand a chance of surviving since Liara can reproduce with every surviving member of the crew, but humanity is pretty much screwed after Shepard "saved" them.

Nah, the stargazer and child are not Asari, so Liara will keep faithful.

HURR HEADCANONING

[-PG-Skyre]

Serlith_ wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

Its rigged. Its been ticking over increases in the "leave it as is" vote at regular intervals. I spent most of my morning watching it =/ Even with us all voting on it, it still managed to always stay ahead...then when we did get ahead, it jumped up above us again... damn space magic is ruining polls now

[Goikiu]

SkaldFish wrote...

Picked up now by the Washington Post:

Mass Effect 3: Creators address ending backlash

Thanks for the share, however i've read it and haven't really find a side their supporting... maybe they are neutral? 

[OnlyHazeRemains]

chmarr wrote...

dear bioware

i am a 37 year old network engineer and i am also an avid gamer, i have bought games on developer promises and good previews.

i have gotten all of the other bioware [...snip]

God i wish what he said is true. It would still mean BW tried to pull some horible PR stunt on us but aside from that the actual ending is still there.

Or they really cut it all out because of the leak and it wont come back

[Goikiu]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

Serlith_ wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

Its rigged. Its been ticking over increases in the "leave it as is" vote at regular intervals. I spent most of my morning watching it =/ Even with us all voting on it, it still managed to always stay ahead...then when we did get ahead, it jumped up above us again... damn space magic is ruining polls now

Why don't we make a Anti-Space Magic movement?  as far as i know a lot of those "magazine" think that we are spoiled brat and a lot of others nice things.. 

[SkaldFish]

LethesDeep wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

http://www.computera...lly-won/?page=1

Appears to be new. Apologies if already posted.

Oooh we're militant now - good to know.

Yeah, he uses poorly worded descriptions of the movement throughout the whole article. He also doesn't seem to know our whole purpose. I honestly can't tell if he's against us or if he's standing with us while slapping us and calling us names.

It's interesting. If their interpretation of the Muzyka statement is that BioWare is going to make some kind of change, do they continue to come down hard against the protest? Oops -- that would be an indirect criticism of BioWare's decision. So instead they creep up on to the fence to wait and see, and try to do it so that the backpeddling isn't so obvious.

[mulder1199]

cyric085 wrote...

Pilzz wrote...

Serlith_ wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

Since you can vote as many times as you want?.. Can only imagine someone spamming the No choiche

its even better its automatic whenever you choose the yes option the no option gets a vote or 2 .

it's 60 40 at this point when you look at the options, i'm sure there's more than a few 'i liked the end' folks that are put off enough to make their voices heard

[Lwyn]

Samurai_Smartie wrote...


Or they really cut it all out because of the leak and it wont come back

"Hey guys, someone leaked our story, better ruin it all. And let's trash the whole trilogy while were at it. That'll show'em."

Modifié par Lwyn, 22 mars 2012 - 02:17 .

[baronkohinar]

Bump:

baronkohinar wrote...

So, folks, what's everyone thinking? Are all these erroneous "endings are definitely getting changed" articles helping us or hindering us? Bypassing how they arrived at that conclusion in the first place (misreading/laziness, reading what they want to believe into it, or another smoke screen), will people think this means things are already resolved (and therefore won't join our movement), or will this actually raise awareness by affording us some public vindication?

[SkaldFish]

Goikiu wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

Picked up now by the Washington Post:

Mass Effect 3: Creators address ending backlash

Thanks for the share, however i've read it and haven't really find a side their supporting... maybe they are neutral? 

Most of the major news outlets will report in a neutral fashion. They're just presenting the news rather than expressing an opinion. Main takeaway is that it has become something that these major outlets are watching and picking up. If the momentum keeps up, they'll soon do their own opinion pieces on it as well.

[elirian_19]

Silasqtx wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

*snip*

Nah, the stargazer and child are not Asari, so Liara will keep faithful.

HURR HEADCANONING

And here I completely managed to forget about the stargazer and child. Thanks for reminding me.

[baronkohinar]

SkaldFish wrote...

Picked up now by the Washington Post:

Mass Effect 3: Creators address ending backlash

Gratified to see another balanced article (not to mention one not jumping to conclusions based on Dr. Ray's statement). Thanks for sharing!

[TamiBx]

SkaldFish wrote...

Most of the major news outlets will report in a neutral fashion. They're just presenting the news rather than expressing an opinion. Main takeaway is that it has become something that these major outlets are watching and picking up. If the momentum keeps up, they'll soon do their own opinion pieces on it as well.

Which is what real journalism should do...<_<

[Hendrik.III]

mulder1199 wrote...

cyric085 wrote...

Pilzz wrote...

Serlith_ wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

Wait, how the frak did it get like that?

Since you can vote as many times as you want?.. Can only imagine someone spamming the No choiche

its even better its automatic whenever you choose the yes option the no option gets a vote or 2 .

it's 60 40 at this point when you look at the options, i'm sure there's more than a few 'i liked the end' folks that are put off enough to make their voices heard

More like people who haven't played it, but vote in favour if "artistic freedom". They are never that vocal, not even on this forum or in any other poll. They are not united, so how can that poll suddenly be that high?

[Goikiu]

baronkohinar wrote...

Bump:

baronkohinar wrote...

So, folks, what's everyone thinking? Are all these erroneous "endings are definitely getting changed" articles helping us or hindering us? Bypassing how they arrived at that conclusion in the first place (misreading/laziness, reading what they want to believe into it, or another smoke screen), will people think this means things are already resolved (and therefore won't join our movement), or will this actually raise awareness by affording us some public vindication?

It's hard to say... i can only say that italians player (90% of them) don't go here , so i truly cannot say anything about them, i've read some comments on some italian game magazine... better not reporting my "opinion" about them.

back to global:
Some will probably not join the movement now, because they want to wait and see
A lot have already returned their ME3 copyes and haven't joined the movement
Some will probably flee from the movement...

Some can be added to the movement, too...

There are a really huge numbers of variable here... it's hard to say 

[LethesDeep]

SkaldFish wrote...

LethesDeep wrote...

Yeah, he uses poorly worded descriptions of the movement throughout the whole article. He also doesn't seem to know our whole purpose. I honestly can't tell if he's against us or if he's standing with us while slapping us and calling us names.

It's interesting. If their interpretation of the Muzyka statement is that BioWare is going to make some kind of change, do they continue to come down hard against the protest? Oops -- that would be an indirect criticism of BioWare's decision. So instead they creep up on to the fence to wait and see, and try to do it so that the backpeddling isn't so obvious.

I hate it when people do that. Either choose a side and commit or get the frak out of the way. Playing neutral is fine, but that involves accurately portraying everyone's side from the beginning and no one has done that yet.

[nitefyre410]

TamiBx wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

Most of the major news outlets will report in a neutral fashion. They're just presenting the news rather than expressing an opinion. Main takeaway is that it has become something that these major outlets are watching and picking up. If the momentum keeps up, they'll soon do their own opinion pieces on it as well.

Which is what real journalism should do...<_<

 

Now we know most gaming  jounarlist would not make it  5 minutes as real journalist. 

[The Big Palooka]

baronkohinar wrote...

Bump:

baronkohinar wrote...

So, folks, what's everyone thinking? Are all these erroneous "endings are definitely getting changed" articles helping us or hindering us? Bypassing how they arrived at that conclusion in the first place (misreading/laziness, reading what they want to believe into it, or another smoke screen), will people think this means things are already resolved (and therefore won't join our movement), or will this actually raise awareness by affording us some public vindication?

It seems like just straight-up oversimplification, that's all.  I'm not sure whether it will help or hurt us, or do either - I feel like if somebody has to hear about it first through their mainstream newspaper or whatever, they probably weren't about to jump on board with Retake anyway.

Dr. Ray's actual statement does concern me, though.  If Bioware comes out in April and announces 'expansion' dlc that doesn't actually change anything, just defends the current endings, I'm worried we'll either A. roll over and take it, or B. not roll over and then be labeled as impossible to please by the gaming press.