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[sandokas]

I agree. One possible ending should be where the catalyst convinces Shepard that the reapers must win (or either forces Shepard to replace him as the catalyst and Shepard realizes that the reapers are right).

I'd love to do that run with a colonist/sole survivor ... :-D

Modifié par sandokas, 22 mars 2012 - 06:05 .

[Hydralysk]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Hydralysk wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

The damn-biggest german news-page (Der Spiegel ("The mirror") wrote about us fans today.

Controversial ending - Little hope for frustrated "Mass Effect 3" players (of course it's in german)

Anyone able to summarize it? The little hope part leaves me anxious.

Actualy, the article is pretty against BioWare and their "PR-blabla"
I will write a translation.

Much appreciated :happy:

[nitefyre410]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

From a guy from Brazil that cant post here:

"During the conversation in Virmire with Sovereign, the Reaper says:
- Your civilization is based on the technology of Mass Relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos or organic evolution. You exist because we allow it and you'll and because we demand it."

And in the third game the "god-child".
Explain about the technology singularity and how the created always gonna rebel against it creator.
But since, we evolve in Reaper desired paths, it's fault of Reapers that we came to a point of this happens. "

 

Careful  those plot holes can be dangerous if call through one... and there are alot of time...

well thats more of a contridiction .... of all Contridiction. 

[Nilofeliu]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

From a guy from Brazil that cant post here:

"During the conversation in Virmire with Sovereign, the Reaper says:
- Your civilization is based on the technology of Mass Relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos or organic evolution. You exist because we allow it and you'll and because we demand it."

And in the third game the "god-child".
Explain about the technology singularity and how the created always gonna rebel against it creator.
But since, we evolve in Reaper desired paths, it's fault of Reapers that we came to a point of this happens. "

My dear friend, if I were you I would stop while you still have your mind intact. You are trying to make sense of something that is totally void of sense. You are trying to apply logic to an situation that defies logic as we know it..

As i saw in an earlier post, what Bioware did was to equate 2 + 2 = cat. That's how far gone they were when they came up with this ending... Logic holes, plot holes, black holes, everything is in it. And the funniest thing is people that actually believe it makes sense...

So far, only one person I know of actually came up with a good explanation to the ending, based on the nihilist school. His draft was quite long and well reasoned, however, despite the fact that he managed to explain the ending, he still couldn't connect the ending to the rest of the story. That is just plain impossible, and anyone saying otherwise is just deluded..

/Salute

[elirian_19]

cyborgchris wrote...

PS: what is a tired old gamer exactly, Elirian? I'm an old gamer but not yet tired maybe tired from work, but not of gaming

I suppose an "old gamer" would be someone who likes the conventional good, neutral and bad ending options? That's what the people at IGN would have you think, anyway. Some of our more vocal critics have said that those who want their "normal" game endings are stuck in the past and we should learn to appreciate the mind warp (seriously wanted to use another word there, but let's keep it civil) that was ME3's ending.

[sumo390]

Aviditie wrote...

Gamefaqs.com poll about Mass Effect 3

Go vote, whatever your vote is. I'd like to see an inclusive poll and one they can't discredit as being only by BSN nut jobs.

A lot of uneducated votes on gamefaqs too, so to have the lead atm is impressive

[VyseN1]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

From a guy from Brazil that cant post here:

"During the conversation in Virmire with Sovereign, the Reaper says:
- Your civilization is based on the technology of Mass Relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos or organic evolution. You exist because we allow it and you'll and because we demand it."

And in the third game the "god-child".
Explain about the technology singularity and how the created always gonna rebel against it creator.
But since, we evolve in Reaper desired paths, it's fault of Reapers that we came to a point of this happens. "

Pretty much. So the God Child makes sure organics develop a certain way. Due to that certain way they will eventually create sythetics. Then, in order to protect organics from synthetics they create synthetics to kill organics so that they don't create synthetics that will kill organics . :huh:

[Nilofeliu]

elirian_19 wrote...

cyborgchris wrote...

PS: what is a tired old gamer exactly, Elirian? I'm an old gamer but not yet tired maybe tired from work, but not of gaming

I suppose an "old gamer" would be someone who likes the conventional good, neutral and bad ending options? That's what the people at IGN would have you think, anyway. Some of our more vocal critics have said that those who want their "normal" game endings are stuck in the past and we should learn to appreciate the mind warp (seriously wanted to use another word there, but let's keep it civil) that was ME3's ending.

It seems like we began the story by telling us about the Starfleet, the Federation, the Kligons, Vulcans, and all the other races in the StarTrek universe, and how you united them all to fight the BORG, only to see in the ending, that none of it mattered, because the Dark Lord of the Sith would give you 3 colored choices. Red you kill the borg, but you destroy all the warp tech in the universe and you likely die. Blue you control the Borg by becoming one yourself, and you destroy all the warp tech in the universe. Green you merge every single living creature with the Borg, meaning they become Borg, and you still destroy all the warp tech in the universe..

No, no matter what, you destroy everything you were fighting for..



/Salute

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 22 mars 2012 - 06:14 .

[Katsumi Liqueur]

My mind is already lost.

My hope too.

But I will hold the line, anyway, xD

[Hazelrah]

Kenkimaru wrote...


www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/22/is-bioware-setting-a-dangerous-precedent-by-considering-alternative-endings/

I really like that article! and i kinda like it when people are pointing at fallout(perfect example for a good outcome)! and the infamous thing is new to me.. hmm but it looks like things really can turn out really great for us! i feel much better now

Any news today other than this article?

I've been very impressed by Forbes throughout and it's clear that they are gaining a few unexpected fansof their own on the back of this. Personally I will be valuing their content as significantly more trustworthy in future. They've really tried to stand up to corrupt journalism in the gaming sector with honest, fair, evidenced and challenging commentary.

[Aviditie]

Yes, it is a demeaning poll. But to hel... Heck with it that. We need people to get the fact that Bioware needs to re-do the ending.

This is JUST personal opinion here. I guess its not civil, but i still want somewhere to say it. :-(
I don't care if Bioware thinks I deserve it at this point. I want to care about the game I loved again. I don't even care about caring about Bioware again. Mass Effect meant more to me than all their other games combined. I gave up RPGs about KotOR for this game (at least that's seemed to be what they did.). And I made my peace with it. But I cannot and never will make my peace with this ending. It's too bleak for what was a *near* future filled with all kinds of hope. I don't understand who they think they are going to sell all those "more full games" to. The CoD crowd? Better make 'em straight up shooters then. (and yes, I'd probably find critiques for the game even if it didn't have this terrible ending - but I'd still be playing the game and recommending it to everyone I know.)

[Atrocity]

elirian_19 wrote...

I suppose an "old gamer" would be someone who likes the conventional good, neutral and bad ending options? That's what the people at IGN would have you think, anyway. Some of our more vocal critics have said that those who want their "normal" game endings are stuck in the past and we should learn to appreciate the mind warp (seriously wanted to use another word there, but let's keep it civil) that was ME3's ending.

So we are ancient, boring old gamers, who also are entitled whiny kids living in our parent's basements?
....k, still more consistent and logical than the ending 

Modifié par Atrocity, 22 mars 2012 - 06:15 .

[monima]

VyseN1 wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

From a guy from Brazil that cant post here:

"During the conversation in Virmire with Sovereign, the Reaper says:
- Your civilization is based on the technology of Mass Relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos or organic evolution. You exist because we allow it and you'll and because we demand it."

And in the third game the "god-child".
Explain about the technology singularity and how the created always gonna rebel against it creator.
But since, we evolve in Reaper desired paths, it's fault of Reapers that we came to a point of this happens. "

Pretty much. So the God Child makes sure organics develop a certain way. Due to that certain way they will eventually create sythetics. Then, in order to protect organics from synthetics they create synthetics to kill organics so that they don't create synthetics that will kill organics . :huh:

 Its just so off, what were they thinking:?  It all the god childs fault in the first place. Please let me shoot him

[RussianOrc]

VyseN1 wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

From a guy from Brazil that cant post here:

"During the conversation in Virmire with Sovereign, the Reaper says:
- Your civilization is based on the technology of Mass Relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos or organic evolution. You exist because we allow it and you'll and because we demand it."

And in the third game the "god-child".
Explain about the technology singularity and how the created always gonna rebel against it creator.
But since, we evolve in Reaper desired paths, it's fault of Reapers that we came to a point of this happens. "

Pretty much. So the God Child makes sure organics develop a certain way. Due to that certain way they will eventually create sythetics. Then, in order to protect organics from synthetics they create synthetics to kill organics so that they don't create synthetics that will kill organics . :huh:

Do me a favor man, don't try to explain .

[MeldarthX]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

From a guy from Brazil that cant post here:

"During the conversation in Virmire with Sovereign, the Reaper says:
- Your civilization is based on the technology of Mass Relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos or organic evolution. You exist because we allow it and you'll and because we demand it."

And in the third game the "god-child".
Explain about the technology singularity and how the created always gonna rebel against it creator.
But since, we evolve in Reaper desired paths, it's fault of Reapers that we came to a point of this happens. "

My dear friend, if I were you I would stop while you still have your mind intact. You are trying to make sense of something that is totally void of sense. You are trying to apply logic to an situation that defies logic as we know it..

As i saw in an earlier post, what Bioware did was to equate 2 + 2 = cat. That's how far gone they were when they came up with this ending... Logic holes, plot holes, black holes, everything is in it. And the funniest thing is people that actually believe it makes sense...

So far, only one person I know of actually came up with a good explanation to the ending, based on the nihilist school. His draft was quite long and well reasoned, however, despite the fact that he managed to explain the ending, he still couldn't connect the ending to the rest of the story. That is just plain impossible, and anyone saying otherwise is just deluded..

/Salute

Thank god I wasn't the only one that thinks this - I literally went after the ending  - WTH......that seriously made my head heart......reloaded; played through the other 2.......and said; ok seriously wth?

I know I'm not drunk - only thing it could be comparable is an acid trip.......debatable of a good or bad one at that; its like someone had gotten high on something; reread Alice in Wonderland.......and went HELL YEA......it makes about that much sense.......

[Cybermortis]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

The damn-biggest german news-page (Der Spiegel ("The mirror") wrote about us fans today.

Controversial ending - Little hope for frustrated "Mass Effect 3" players (of course it's in german)

Ahh, I know that paper well. I used to have to pick up a copy for a friend every week. 

I can't speak German myself, so I had to rely on a translator program. If I'm understanding things clearly they are not impressed with ME3, or Bioware's reaction to the situation.

[Zwei133]

Prince Lex wrote...

Can EVERYONE make sure they take the Poll of the Day at Gamefaqs.com? 

For some bizarre reason, we're barely holding the lead.

It's not bizarre, the poll is written to favor the not change.  There is really only one not change option, and 4 degrees of change options.  Thus, the change options are diluted.

[TSC_1]

Atrocity wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

I suppose an "old gamer" would be someone who likes the conventional good, neutral and bad ending options? That's what the people at IGN would have you think, anyway. Some of our more vocal critics have said that those who want their "normal" game endings are stuck in the past and we should learn to appreciate the mind warp (seriously wanted to use another word there, but let's keep it civil) that was ME3's ending.

So we are ancient, boring old gamers, who also are entitled whiny kids living in our parent's basements?
....k, still more consistent and logical than the ending 

Well, when you put it that way...

[Nilofeliu]

Aviditie wrote...

Yes, it is a demeaning poll. But to hel... Heck with it that. We need people to get the fact that Bioware needs to re-do the ending.

This is JUST personal opinion here. I guess its not civil, but i still want somewhere to say it. :-(
I don't care if Bioware thinks I deserve it at this point. I want to care about the game I loved again. I don't even care about caring about Bioware again. Mass Effect meant more to me than all their other games combined. I gave up RPGs about KotOR for this game (at least that's seemed to be what they did.). And I made my peace with it. But I cannot and never will make my peace with this ending. It's too bleak for what was a *near* future filled with all kinds of hope. I don't understand who they think they are going to sell all those "more full games" to. The CoD crowd? Better make 'em straight up shooters then. (and yes, I'd probably find critiques for the game even if it didn't have this terrible ending - but I'd still be playing the game and recommending it to everyone I know.)

Actually I just had an inspiration.

I know WHY Bioware did what they did. The Reapers contacted them and forced them to change the ending, so we will believe we stand no chance when they come for real...

Well, it's a better explanation than the actual ending anyway...

/Salute

[Sevantha]

link33333 wrote...

this is fantastic

http://gotgame.com/2...fect-3s-ending/

Very good read

[Darth Garrus]

Hello, guys. Any news?

Holding the line!

[Nilofeliu]

MeldarthX wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

From a guy from Brazil that cant post here:

"During the conversation in Virmire with Sovereign, the Reaper says:
- Your civilization is based on the technology of Mass Relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos or organic evolution. You exist because we allow it and you'll and because we demand it."

And in the third game the "god-child".
Explain about the technology singularity and how the created always gonna rebel against it creator.
But since, we evolve in Reaper desired paths, it's fault of Reapers that we came to a point of this happens. "

My dear friend, if I were you I would stop while you still have your mind intact. You are trying to make sense of something that is totally void of sense. You are trying to apply logic to an situation that defies logic as we know it..

As i saw in an earlier post, what Bioware did was to equate 2 + 2 = cat. That's how far gone they were when they came up with this ending... Logic holes, plot holes, black holes, everything is in it. And the funniest thing is people that actually believe it makes sense...

So far, only one person I know of actually came up with a good explanation to the ending, based on the nihilist school. His draft was quite long and well reasoned, however, despite the fact that he managed to explain the ending, he still couldn't connect the ending to the rest of the story. That is just plain impossible, and anyone saying otherwise is just deluded..

/Salute

Thank god I wasn't the only one that thinks this - I literally went after the ending  - WTH......that seriously made my head heart......reloaded; played through the other 2.......and said; ok seriously wth?

I know I'm not drunk - only thing it could be comparable is an acid trip.......debatable of a good or bad one at that; its like someone had gotten high on something; reread Alice in Wonderland.......and went HELL YEA......it makes about that much sense.......

It felt like reading Alice in Wonderland when you are high on LSD. That 's what it felt like to me. And worst of it is that the trip is still on going.

[Cannonarm758]

LadyMarisa wrote...


I don't disagree with you. I wouldn't expect anyone to know it but I've posted prviously about my unhappiness with the endings and the choices that BW/EA have made. I simply can't wrap my head around how they arrived at this point and it was a surprise to them. I was just speculating on where they might be intending to go with it all. Certainly my previous ruminations would go against what they said they'd deliver but would that really be surprising since they've already failed once? Maybe in their heads the end of the trilogy is the end of Shepards personal story but not the end of overall plot with the Reapers etc.

I want and expect closure myself. I'm just guessing based on all the vague things they've said where they could possibly going with all this inane stuff.

I should have included that I didn't mean to sound too disagreeable.  It was more my frustration that if that was the intent, than at least give us something more than that 4 second spot.  That was intentional for some reason and I was frustrated at that.  I COMPLETELY agree with you and I spent an hour after the ending doing the same thing you are doing now.

[Sevantha]

silencemayday wrote...

 someone requested this yesterday i think. the usual daily moral booster will follow later on. 
just felt like sharing.. 
http://i43.tinypic.com/34q90gg.png

and now off to university again..

sweet thanks. Just got a new profile pic on facebook Would look great on a tshirt too mh

[Atrocity]

TSC_1 wrote...

Well, when you put it that way...

*laughs*
You know, I just thought the best thing that has ever come of this ending:
NO ONE can ever accuse me of faulty logic, ever again.

Professor: Girl, your argument is illogical and moronic, and the supporting evidence is holey when found at all!
Me: Well yeah, but it still makes more sense than the ending of ME3
Professor: ....Ok, I have no choice but to let you pass.
Me: