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[Sia_Sinblade]

albertalad wrote...

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No it doesn't make any sense - for instance a massive astroid such as the one that wiped out the dinosaurs would have accomplish the same dire ending killing the Reapers and Earth yet leave all the other relays intact. Or even ram the astroid at earth Relay wiping out the Reapers and everything else - once again leaving all other relays intact. There are many endings without total war - just the decisions to end the Reapers are the choice. Besides just driving the Reapers back allows for a new series with new individuals and new adventures. Which is exact what the Starwars games are all about. That's why Star wars IS the the best of all time. The ending made the movies!

I'm not even sure what you are talking about anymore?

What does an asteroid killing off a single relay or reapers or the earth have to do with anything?

And it has always been about destroying the Reapers, not driving them back.

And what Star Wars games are you talking about? o.O

[Risselda]

Tesclo wrote...

Lucifer_Cheney wrote...

Tesclo wrote...

I bet I know how this is going to turn out. New Mass Effect every year with new multiplayer maps and a 5 hour campaign. EA's very own CoD.

Nope. Instead, you'll have the "privilege" of paying $15 bucks a month (or international currency equivalent) to play a Mass Effect MMO. Yippie-Dee!!

The mmo genre is dying. I don't think there will even be mmos in 10 years. People are sick of kill x amount of this or go fetch x amount of that and companies refuse to go beyond that model. The future are these stupid multiplayer first person shooters and their never ending army of 13 year olds screaming over a mic. The rpg itself is all but dead already.

Going to disagree. The problem was, whether you loved or hated it, WoW was amazing. I know a lot of people, including myself, that would still be playing if they did not dumb the game down as much/ cater wholly to a younger crowd as they did in Cataclysm.  Not to mention Pandaria?

[Elegana]

redBadger14 wrote...

I avoided getting spoiled about the specifics of the ending (and please do not spoil me guys), but I get the general gist of everyone's concerns. I will address the thread by saying this.

The Mass Effect trilogy is Commander Shepard's story, and the story of him and his crew taking down the Reapers over the course of the trilogy. Commander Shepard is not a silent protagonist with a clouded past, unknown face, or undefined future that is to be shaped by the character. Commander Shepard, male or female, is very much a defined person with a defined background, voice, etc. Shepard's story must come to a definitive end. Shepard's story is not ours to decide how it concludes; rather, we decide how we get there, what the journey is like.

Look at BioWare's games that have had vastly different endings; KOTOR, Dragon Age: Origins, etc. What do they have in common? A silent, "faceless" protagonist whose future is shaped by the player. The protagonist's story is for the player to craft, and over-arching story plot is set in stone with exception to the ending (to be decided by the protagonist). The "protagonist saves the world" type endings in some cases.

I can understand some frustration in that there aren't vastly different endings that can be decided by the player in ME3, but I understand, as should you guys, that Shepard's story and the story of the trilogy is not ours to craft. We just decide how Shepard and his crew get to the end of it all. And *that* is why I am OK with it. ME3 will be a great game regardless.

Thing is, yes it's Shepard, but it's OUR Shepard. Casey and all the other devs kept saying that "Your Shepard is canon". If that's so, then at least give us more varying endings instead of 3 that all end up the same. 

If you knew about what happens in the endings, then I could explain ebtter. Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

Our main gripe is the fact that ONE aspect of the endings doesn't make sense and is just plain cruel. Most accept the leaked endings, but are not happy about that one aspect. We want that aspect changed.

[Chief Savage Man]

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

[scotkrow]

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No it did. some people honestly agree with Anders and are happy with what he did.

[Abram730]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

A 200GB 5 hour game would be quite a corner, due to plot branching.  This is a clean slate with a wonderful galaxy to return to.

Well, since the mass relays are destroyed, it's like having a hacking game and in the end destroying the internet. You might go into smaller hacking stuff, but it won't be the same.

Only some of the mass relays were on.. no sol relay anymore for example... but what about the systems that were never visited? We visited relays that were activated.. Why do you think the relays were so important to leave around? It's the facebook of who to kill.. Our galaxy has 200–400 billion star systems.. think they are going to check every system? How many relays were on? All we have to do is start looking. How many times did you go from one system with a relay to another system without one?

Starting a new PC during the invasion lets them get even more of the shooter crowd.. Also like I said they will need to get a new engine up and running so yes "smaller stuff ", getting the combat right from the start. The next box and PS(something)... Wii-u ext.. all will have dx11 ext..

everything isn't just going to port over as new consoles aren't going to be top notch like the last batch.. They'll need to be optimized from the start. They'll drop back down to 720P in no time if reports are correct.

The next mass effect will be on the next systems... I highly doubt EA will say sure drop Mass Effect... I see them focusing on core things that need to carry over like your face, perhaps a kinect fusion scan of your real face into the game... On RPG customizations and combat. Like the FIFA / battlefield 3 animation system.. ext

Retool with a focus on more efficient content creation.. no more repeat maze A 100 times.. have a magnet system that lets you drop room boxes and they connect together at predefined magnet points.. It saves time and opens up random map generation possibilities..

See how I'm pumping out ideas... guess when devs would be reading forums?.. perhaps now?  what are they reading?

Me giving ideas and a chorus of tears and requests for a happy ending added..

If you were a developer would you concider a shperd need to be with the ship complaint?  sure, there was the layer of the the shadow broker and I quite like that DLC.  I totaly agreed with the Liara complaint.. justified

Gloom doom it's over or how to keep Mass Effect going and growing?

[Chief Savage Man]

scotkrow wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No it did. some people honestly agree with Anders and are happy with what he did.

The problem is that it all happened no matter what. It was lazy and forced, which misses the point of why people flocked to Bioware in the first place. "Oh yeah you made a choice not to help but I did it anyway." It's not Bioware being clever or anything they rushed out a **** game and forced the end to keep things simple. ME3 suffers from the same woes apparently.

[Amaranthy]

My biggest issue is with the aftermath of the Normandy crew. Tali and Garrus will starve to death and even if the rest of the crew manages to colonize the planet, it will be done by inbreeding.

That is just a cruel, twisted and sick ending for the crew who saved the galaxy.

[Elegana]

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No, I didn't. Unlike ME3 where your LI is either dead, back on earth (with no romance if you choose the VS as an LI), or stranded in bufu-Egypt. In Dragon Age 2, you can ride off into the sunset with Anders despite the result of the war. What people want with ME3 is the same thing: Death and destruction, but at the end of the day, have Shepard be with his/her crew and LI whether the Normandy crashes on Earth or Shepard ends up with the crew on the other planet. 

[Elegana]

Amaranthy wrote...

My biggest issue is with the aftermath of the Normandy crew. Tali and Garrus will starve to death and even if the rest of the crew manages to colonize the planet, it will be done by inbreeding.

That is just a cruel, twisted and sick ending for the crew who saved the galaxy.

You can save them. Just don't recruit them. They'll become war assets and fight the war with you and be near Shepard if you survive the Destroy ending.

[Chief Savage Man]

Elegana wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No, I didn't. Unlike ME3 where your LI is either dead, back on earth (with no romance if you choose the VS as an LI), or stranded in bufu-Egypt. In Dragon Age 2, you can ride off into the sunset with Anders despite the result of the war. What people want with ME3 is the same thing: Death and destruction, but at the end of the day, have Shepard be with his/her crew and LI whether the Normandy crashes on Earth or Shepard ends up with the crew on the other planet. 

I think the fanbase should be aiming for something a bit higher than 'You can replay the same crappy ending but with your virtual lover at your side.'

[joiner87]

Why push ack the release date if this is all we are going to get?

[me12343455]

BioWare and EA are full of sick incest fetish freaks.


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Modifié par me12343455, 01 mars 2012 - 04:16 .

[DifferentD17]

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No, I didn't. Unlike ME3 where your LI is either dead, back on earth (with no romance if you choose the VS as an LI), or stranded in bufu-Egypt. In Dragon Age 2, you can ride off into the sunset with Anders despite the result of the war. What people want with ME3 is the same thing: Death and destruction, but at the end of the day, have Shepard be with his/her crew and LI whether the Normandy crashes on Earth or Shepard ends up with the crew on the other planet. 

I think the fanbase should be aiming for something a bit higher than 'You can replay the same crappy ending but with your virtual lover at your side.'

Lol that's the most we will get.

[Deludedcon]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Deludedcon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Deludedcon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Deludedcon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...


Why does multiplayer matter? It shouldn't.

It shouldn't really. I'm not big in MP. But I liked MEs version. BUT again, like I made note in earlier pages I read somewhere about how the outcome is justified. This is all heresay though, so, I have no real basic fact, just hypotheticals. Was trying to find something "good" there, basically. : /

Ah, I wish there was a sliver of hope as well.
The guy that played it played it twice with NG+, and he said her did every mission he could.

Hrrrm...well, that bites. I don't really know what to say on that front either...ah well, I guess that huge write up was for nothing really. At least I got it out of my system. Le sigh.

I suppose we'll see soon enough...and also, if it's really this tragic can cross fingers and hope they make a DLC. 

I'm still lost as to how humanity is left with no space travel after this event though and grandpa is left telling junior about how "WE USED TO BE OUT THERE SONNY" or something like that. That part is still puzzling.

I really hope Bioware is hiding some secret ending somehow, but very unlikely. It's good to vent.
The whole ending makes no sense.

I hope so too. I guess i'll live in some insane delusion until it's all out there for the world to see. I just know I ain't putting my Shepard through that noise, haha. Sucks, and some may find it dumb (and sure, it is) but I didn't work my way to get an ending that could have been remotely happy with all the *choices* I made to have them whisked away and stuffed under a rug so that everything comes out bleak and depressing with this more "suitable" ending. 

Maybe there is some grand scheme. I've seen quite a bit of people bring up different ideas for it, but blah. I'm just lost as to how this helps you out by saving your ME3 saves for any future continuity. : /

They want you to save it so you can play DLC that happens before the end... Yay...

Welp...unless one of those DLCs is "HAPPY_ENDING.EXE" i'm pretty much not going anywhere as far as that is concerned.

And yes. I'm a big baby Paragon and want to see some happy times. It should have just been an option, still could have kept the doom bringing ending in for those that went that path but seriously? Ah well, this has been beaten to death already so i'll stop there. Sorry!

[albertalad]

I thought sleeping on the issue would calm me down it just made me more angry then ever. Its so contrived as to stagger the imagination - right - the crew just lets Sheppard go on a dead man solo mission. Yeah, right. The Greeks in 300 fought together to the bitter end and WE remember them to this day! Your L1 knowing full well the price Sheppard would have to pay just quietly says go ahead and die - AGAIN! BW already pulled that silliness - To make matters worse maroon the crew anyway with hints on their death and starvation - and most likely inbreeding. That's not even artsy - that's sadistic in the extreme for BW to pull forced endings like this. I'm canceling my order, period! I'll just sit back and watch the endings on Utube and still shake my head at the idiocy of garbage writing. Moreover, I'll never buy a BW game again. That's NOT a promise - that's a fact! I'm madder today than yesterday! Moreover, BW isn't even taking the time to even bother to answer anything. That's callous in any world I live in and even more so with MY bucks that I can control!

[Garrus30]

I have watched most of the ending videos, and the ending with color explosion isn't 100% correct.

On END3, there are 3 versions with blue, red and green explosions (Mass Relay).
In every Version you see that the Citadel (I presume) let's out a red or green beam, which destroys the Mass Relay.
However on the blue Version the Citadel closes its arms on both videos (good and bad), the outro shows a blue explosion which destroys the Mass Relay and the Normandy get's caught in it->heavily damaged->stranded, so the same as the other two version.

But, like I said, there are 2 videos which are the same (good and bad), which is high likely that the good version doesn't destroy the Mass Relay, so the Normandy is save (and Shepard).

The ending where the normandy get's stranded (haven't seen it in the video) from the explosion are in the same ending where you can see that shepards alive.

[CptData]

Elegana wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

My biggest issue is with the aftermath of the Normandy crew. Tali and Garrus will starve to death and even if the rest of the crew manages to colonize the planet, it will be done by inbreeding.

That is just a cruel, twisted and sick ending for the crew who saved the galaxy.

You can save them. Just don't recruit them. They'll become war assets and fight the war with you and be near Shepard if you survive the Destroy ending.

Yeah - but you have to sacrifice the romance arcs for some of those characters.
Plus: the mandatory guys will stuck on that random world forever, most namely Joker, Liara, Vega, Adams and several other guys.

Modifié par CptData, 01 mars 2012 - 04:18 .

[Capeo]

Abram730 wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

A 200GB 5 hour game would be quite a corner, due to plot branching.  This is a clean slate with a wonderful galaxy to return to.

Well, since the mass relays are destroyed, it's like having a hacking game and in the end destroying the internet. You might go into smaller hacking stuff, but it won't be the same.

Only some of the mass relays were on.. no sol relay anymore for example... but what about the systems that were never visited? We visited relays that were activated.. Why do you think the relays were so important to leave around? It's the facebook of who to kill.. Our galaxy has 200–400 billion star systems.. think they are going to check every system? How many relays were on? All we have to do is start looking. How many times did you go from one system with a relay to another system without one?

The end videos show the magic green/blue/red energy ping ponging across the entire galaxy from relay to relay wiping them all out.  It doesn't seem like them being "on" per se matters much.

[Garrus30]

Capeo wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

A 200GB 5 hour game would be quite a corner, due to plot branching.  This is a clean slate with a wonderful galaxy to return to.

Well, since the mass relays are destroyed, it's like having a hacking game and in the end destroying the internet. You might go into smaller hacking stuff, but it won't be the same.

Only some of the mass relays were on.. no sol relay anymore for example... but what about the systems that were never visited? We visited relays that were activated.. Why do you think the relays were so important to leave around? It's the facebook of who to kill.. Our galaxy has 200–400 billion star systems.. think they are going to check every system? How many relays were on? All we have to do is start looking. How many times did you go from one system with a relay to another system without one?

The end videos show the magic green/blue/red energy ping ponging across the entire galaxy from relay to relay wiping them all out.  It doesn't seem like them being "on" per se matters much.

nope not with the blue version, there is an additional video.

[Switish]

Oh this blows......im really starting to dislike bioware...

[Johnnycide]

me12343455 wrote...

BioWare and EA are full of sick incest fetish freaks.


End of line.

You might be onto something, maybe they had dreams of the Normandy creating a confederate planet... wait then this would all lead into the StarCraft lore... brilliant.

[DifferentD17]

Deludedcon wrote...


Welp...unless one of those DLCs is "HAPPY_ENDING.EXE" i'm pretty much not going anywhere as far as that is concerned.

And yes. I'm a big baby Paragon and want to see some happy times. It should have just been an option, still could have kept the doom bringing ending in for those that went that path but seriously? Ah well, this has been beaten to death already so i'll stop there. Sorry!

Yeah anything they release should've been in the main story if it can't take place afterward.

Don't be sorry, I agree with you. And each person that says something makes our cause better I suppose.

[Elegana]

CptData wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

My biggest issue is with the aftermath of the Normandy crew. Tali and Garrus will starve to death and even if the rest of the crew manages to colonize the planet, it will be done by inbreeding.

That is just a cruel, twisted and sick ending for the crew who saved the galaxy.

You can save them. Just don't recruit them. They'll become war assets and fight the war with you and be near Shepard if you survive the Destroy ending.

Yeah - but you have to sacrifice the romance arcs for some of those characters.
Plus: the mandatory guys will stuck on that random world forever, most namely Joker, Liara, Vega, Adams and several other guys.

Headcanon the romance?