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[Atrocity]

Cybermortis wrote...

deregen wrote...

And now this:

http://www.theregist..._3_survey_scam/

I assume most of us here will see this coming and avoid the obvious scam, but just to be safe, I wanted to give folks a heads up if they haven't seen it yet.

Read a little bit further down that warning and there is this;

Game publishers Bioware are due to release an officially sanctioned alternative ending to the game in April.

Someone, somewhere in Bioware HQ is crying softly into their desk at this point.

Consider that their PR release yesterday was basically intended NOT to commit them to doing anything...but the media has taken it to mean that they ARE committed to providing a new ending. So once again, Biowares PR strategy has backfired...at this point is anyone really surprised?

While from a moral and objective view-point I find it horrible that the lazy/sensational journalism might push companies and private citizens in to actions they might not otherwise make, the whiny entitled gamer brat inside me just punched the air and went: YEAAAAAH 

[Cybermortis]

Hazelrah wrote...

Too true. I've been working on a second play through and it's really been such a crawl to the point I feel like I'm forcing myself to play. I finally got to right before the last mission last night. As I hit the loading screen the game crashed. I took it as a sign and turned it off.

It was Marauder Shields, sacrificing his virtual life to protect you from the end.

*Salutes Marauder Shields*

[TamiBx]

Ossborn76 wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

Sims: Mass Effect? - rotflmao

Someone said EA's new series they will be coming up with

You will laugh, but I already created my main-Femshep amd Liara for the Sims 2...

At least there they will get the happy ending that they deserve... and blue offspring of course!!! 

Wait, what?! I am so getting that expension 

Actually, FFXIII-2 will have ME armor available now...

Modifié par TamiBx, 22 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[wicked_being]

Cybermortis wrote...

Game publishers Bioware are due to release an officially sanctioned alternative ending to the game in April.

Someone, somewhere in Bioware HQ is crying softly into their desk at this point.

Consider that their PR release yesterday was basically intended NOT to commit them to doing anything...but the media has taken it to mean that they ARE committed to providing a new ending. So once again, Biowares PR strategy has backfired...at this point is anyone really surprised?

I wonder if they're going all "hold the line! as well 

[Sevantha]

Nilofeliu wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

Prince Lex wrote...

Can EVERYONE make sure they take the Poll of the Day at Gamefaqs.com? 

For some bizarre reason, we're barely holding the lead.

The poll is borked, and someone is probably stuffing the ballot box.

Weird, I voted but my vote didn't count. Meaning, it was not acknowledged by the poll...

That poll is biased...

Huge surprise there hu?
"here have some more of our free games and we gonna put some more advertisement on your website for xxx dollars"

[nitefyre410]

Cybermortis wrote...

deregen wrote...

And now this:

http://www.theregist..._3_survey_scam/

I assume most of us here will see this coming and avoid the obvious scam, but just to be safe, I wanted to give folks a heads up if they haven't seen it yet.

Read a little bit further down that warning and there is this;

Game publishers Bioware are due to release an officially sanctioned alternative ending to the game in April.

Someone, somewhere in Bioware HQ is crying softly into their desk at this point.

Consider that their PR release yesterday was basically intended NOT to commit them to doing anything...but the media has taken it to mean that they ARE committed to providing a new ending. So once again, Biowares PR strategy has backfired...at this point is anyone really surprised?

 

Nope not at all... it was all part of the plan 

[Matt_gekko88]

I made a translation of the following german article of the biggest german news-website:

Controversial ending - Little hope for frustrated "Mass Effect 3" players
by Felix Knoke

It should have been the great final, the end of a three-part space saga of epic proportions. But the ending-scenes of "Mass Effect 3" disappoint a huge amount of gamers. Now the developers raise their hands - writhing in arguments.

The critics among game-fans agree: "Mass Effect 3" is too dark, too enigmatic, too undecided - but most of all: too arbitrary. They criticize that the possible ending-scenes, which "Mass Effect 3" chooses according to how the game was played, are to alike. The endings would only in detail make reference to the grievous decisions player made during the game.

The flaw-endings sure provided a lot of indignation among "Mass Effect 3"-players. They mounted the barricades on internet forums and gaming-blogs, cut the game to pieces on review-pages and turned to the developers by starting various petitions and polls: BioWare, give us a new ending!

One has to be a gamer to understand this criticism. Who doesn't play any games and nonetheless wants to know how variable game-endings work, can find a list of all "ME3"-Endings and the necessary in-game-decisions at "Just Push Start".

In recent days, BioWare-developers perennially commented on the criticism: first, "ME3"-Producer Casey Hudson declared in an interview and in a statement, why the team decided to let the series end with a "bittersweet ending" and how the game will develop in the future with downloadable content.

Then, even one of BioWare's co-founders Ray Muzyka replied to the commotion: "Our first instinct is to defend our work and point to the high ratings offered by critics – but out of respect to our fans, we need to accept the criticism and feedback with humility." What follows then are variants of BioWare's already well-known plans: fans shall download (probably charged) additional contents to immerge more deeply in the background-story of "ME3". These contents could also concern the ending: "We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received."

Even if the gaming-press likes to proclaim otherwise: all of this doesn't sound like BioWare really responds to fan-feedback, but uses the criticism to advertize their commercial additional contents. Fitting to this is the tenor of the criticism: The game is great, only the ending is stupid. Advice against buying the game sounds different. And so knows Bioware.

Modifié par Matt_gekko88, 22 mars 2012 - 06:40 .

[Hazelrah]

Topher1127 wrote...

wow these forums move quick!

The large numbers involved in the movement mean that things move quickly. Pick a thread that interests you and stick with it is your best bet. One person simply cannot keep up with everything at this point.

This is the reason you'll find so many people providing regular updates of important links. Otherwise things get lost quickly!

[Deltoran]

Atrocity wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

deregen wrote...

And now this:

http://www.theregist..._3_survey_scam/

I assume most of us here will see this coming and avoid the obvious scam, but just to be safe, I wanted to give folks a heads up if they haven't seen it yet.

Read a little bit further down that warning and there is this;

Game publishers Bioware are due to release an officially sanctioned alternative ending to the game in April.

Someone, somewhere in Bioware HQ is crying softly into their desk at this point.

Consider that their PR release yesterday was basically intended NOT to commit them to doing anything...but the media has taken it to mean that they ARE committed to providing a new ending. So once again, Biowares PR strategy has backfired...at this point is anyone really surprised?

While from a moral and objective view-point I find it horrible that the lazy/sensational journalism might push companies and private citizens in to actions they might not otherwise make, the whiny entitled gamer brat inside me just punched the air and went: YEAAAAAH 

I like the fact that the media is actually working in my favor for a change.

[nitefyre410]

TamiBx wrote...

Ossborn76 wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

Sims: Mass Effect? - rotflmao

Someone said EA's new series they will be coming up with

You will laugh, but I already created my main-Femshep amd Liara for the Sims 2...

At least there they will get the happy ending that they deserve... and blue offspring of course!!! 

Wait, what?! I am so getting that expension 

Actually, FFXIII-2 will have ME armor available now...

 

13-2 was going to do that with a bunch of games... Assassins Creed included and its endings it still better ME 3. 
Considering they understand the meaning of the word...foreshadowing. 

[Alamar2078]

TamiBx wrote...
I'm glad that the media is being pushy. 

If you live by the PR Speak you die by the PR Speak.  Nice symmetry

[Cannonarm758]

I thought I would add this as more anecdotal evidence. I had 3.5 hours to play from the point you go to earth. I planned 2 hours to finish the finale and than some extra time to play multiplayer.

After I finished, I had to replay the ending to see another choice. Than I went to the forums to finally see what people were saying.

I loaded the game back up and stared at the main menu for several minutes and I couldn't bring myself to load the multiplayer.

Dejected I load up TF2 (hat simulator) instead and hop my server with our regulars that I have been playing on for years. First thing they say is "hey haven't seen you in awhile".

I replied back with ME3 was so good I couldn't put it down, but I just finished it and wow... I really don't know how I feel about the ending.

I didn't want to spoil it for those so I said I felt like someone stole MY ending and gave me a ending to something else. For the first time I wasn't engaged in the story. My choices didn't matter. I felt like I was robbed of something valuable.

Everyone let it go but shortly after I was doing horrible and just couldn't seem to do well at all. I normally frustrate people by deflecting objects with they pyro, but that night I couldn't do it. They commented on it and said it appeared I was having an off night.

I said the ending shook me up that much.

One person told me was getting a gift card to amazon and he was planning on getting the 3rd one but after that he said he was going to hold on. It wasn't my intent to stop people from playing the game solely based on the ending but it happened.

Since then, the regulars I have talked to, have asked me about it, and I without trying to be a boycott person, people evaluated their purchase.

No one wants to finish a game and feel as if it was pointless. My choices didn't matter and it bothered me so badly that it wasn't addressed.

People said they didn't care if Shepard has to die, or if Earth didn't make it, or the reapers didn't die. But when you tell a person their choices don't matter, especially in a Mass Effect game, that has some real stopping power, because the choices all the way to the end meant something more than most games.

Even the most depressing Epics can leave you with very powerful and upsetting emotions, but you shouldn't feel like the victim, like you were robbed of what was supposed to happen.

[Hazelrah]

Cybermortis wrote...

It was Marauder Shields, sacrificing his virtual life to protect you from the end.

*Salutes Marauder Shields*

Clearly he's using new tactics and fighting back via the loading screens. What a guy!

[Ohpus]

Phoenix NL wrote...

BuddhaGeek wrote...

 A lesson to the fleet: if you like sleeping past 5 AM, don't have a baby . I'm pretty sure the lack of sleep is making hallucinate.


ANYWAY, good morning! What did I miss? 

I know your pain! My daughter is finally sleeping through the night - still gets up too early but there is light at the end of the tunnel

This could explain the ME3 endings. Shep had a kid a week before the major battle. He has been phoning it in since the encouter with TIM due to sleep deprivation and just fell asleep during the run to the citadel.

Not being a girl I can't really say...but could FemShep be suffering from some kind of post-partum depression during those scenes? The endings were certain depressing.

[NeverQuiteAwake]

Has anyone else seen this Entertainment Weekly article defending the ending?

[Cybermortis]

wicked_being wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Game publishers Bioware are due to release an officially sanctioned alternative ending to the game in April.

Someone, somewhere in Bioware HQ is crying softly into their desk at this point.

Consider that their PR release yesterday was basically intended NOT to commit them to doing anything...but the media has taken it to mean that they ARE committed to providing a new ending. So once again, Biowares PR strategy has backfired...at this point is anyone really surprised?

I wonder if they're going all "hold the line! as well 

One would suspect a growing desire on the part of some people at Bioware to have some people in their PR department holding a line that just happens to be in the middle of a freeway.

As I noted before, Bioware has accidently put themselves in a no win situation with the press. If they don't now produce an alternate ending the media is going to feel like they were played for fools...at which point they are likely to start digging into areas no one, especially EA, wants them to dig.

[DJBare]

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[TamiBx]

 A little humor for all of us 

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[toffeetrooper]

loging out for while

back later

hold the line

[Max Knight]

any news

[Hazelrah]

Cannonarm758 wrote...

I thought I would add this as more anecdotal evidence. I had 3.5 hours to play from the point you go to earth. I planned 2 hours to finish the finale and than some extra time to play multiplayer.

After I finished, I had to replay the ending to see another choice. Than I went to the forums to finally see what people were saying.

I loaded the game back up and stared at the main menu for several minutes and I couldn't bring myself to load the multiplayer.

You'll find many people who went through something very similar here on these forums. I'm glad you shared that with us and that you are joining with so many to support getting what  we as customers, and the games as wonderful stories, deserve.

[Robhuzz]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

Has anyone else seen this Entertainment Weekly article defending the ending?

I'm going to use Ctrl + F to search for the artistic argument before I so much as bother reading it.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 22 mars 2012 - 06:45 .

[DJBare]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

Has anyone else seen this Entertainment Weekly article defending the ending?

Awww come on, there was some truth in that write up

But the biggest problem with all the outcry is that (spoilers ahead) [/b]the ending of Mass Effect 3[/i]is fascinating, frustrating, moving, and weird — exactly the kind of ending that the videogame medium will need more of if it intends to mature.

Modifié par DJBare, 22 mars 2012 - 06:46 .

[TamiBx]

 I was looking on tumblr for cool memes about ME3, and I came across a couple of posts saying that "they can't believe Bioware is giving in for little spoiled children"

My question is: why do other fans care so much about whether we get new alternative endings or not? 
I don't see why they would hate us for anything besides "they are spoiled children"

[Darth Garrus]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

Has anyone else seen this Entertainment Weekly article defending the ending?

Another "entitlement" nonsense. The guys pulls a straw-man fallacy comparing a book with a game. This is ridiculous. One thing has nothing to do with the other.