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#55651
Geinen

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LPKerberos wrote...

"A change to the ending would be "unprecedented", says IGN's Keza MacDonald"

*cough* Fallout *cough*

Only shows once again why I can't stand IGN.



Okay this doesnt make sense to me.  If this has happened before...where fans were numerous enough to affect change on something (ie books, games, movies etc)  ...why is there so much hate directed towards this movement?

Why is it suddenly *now* considered idiotic, entitled and unrealistic?

Whats the difference?  the media?

#55652
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SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.


  What I love, and cannot ignore, is that the fellow complaining....ahahahah "pimpmyshed."  If ever there was a person worthy of being responded to for their complaints, it would the font of all reasonable and mature knowledge, pimpmyshed.

#55653
Hendrik.III

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Retake's main weapon, the Child's Play fund, needs less than 1.2k to reach 80k.

Let Bioware know that we care for quality. For ourselves, and for these kids!
No mediocrity and false promises, no rolling around in consumer money without delivering what you marketed.

Come one people! Every cent counts!

Modifié par Hendrik.III, 22 mars 2012 - 07:59 .


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LOL! Don't worry, MOST Americans have NO IDEA that there are more people who speak Portuguese in South America, than do not. Brazil is the only Non-Spanish country, but it is the "U.S." of S. America : )

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SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.


I wonder that you leave us call "idiots"... thx Image IPB

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SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.

Technically that tweet is true, they haven't said they would add new endings. BUT they haven't said they won't yet either. Everything we've gotten has been PR double-talk BS. Please, for your own good, don't read too much into things.

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Back on the line people, hey ya.

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SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.


Wouldn't get depressed based on solely this, the tweet is just stating the fact Bioware has not yet made an official decision.

I think I'll have to call it quits for today, since apparently this weak organic body of mine needs sleep.
Don't lose heart, don't lose hope, stand together, stand fast, stand proud. We will Hold the Line.

Atrocity out.

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Started following this Thread at page 800~
Never posted anything, just wanted to be up to date, because the ending really made me "sick" and
I searched for confirmation that I was not the only one with this issue.
Just want to say that I really like with how much passion the people here post and discuss and I
really hope that it pays off in the end.
Just wanted you to know Im there too..

Hold the Line!

#55660
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Harthouse wrote...

SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.


  What I love, and cannot ignore, is that the fellow complaining....ahahahah "pimpmyshed."  If ever there was a person worthy of being responded to for their complaints, it would the font of all reasonable and mature knowledge, pimpmyshed.


What bothers me more is this:

He clearly titles us as idiots in his message, and Bioware still takes the time to answer him.

Bioware, isn't our money worth anything? If you answer people like this who call us idiots, and ignore our claims...be sure to keep the 1.000 happy people at bay. Because 999.000 others will be gone by then.

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Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

Man, i'm starting to memorize each of you guys by name.....
Maybe i'm spending to much time on this thread......


I know all the brazilians and a couple of others, that are always present.

I dont usually post, but Im reading this thread almost 14h/day... :sick:



You're not the only one - I got busted at work reading the thread (my boss takes a very dim view on multitasking; considering that I work at an IT helldesk, this is rather ironic) :unsure:

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sugah wrote...

LOL! Don't worry, MOST Americans have NO IDEA that there are more people who speak Portuguese in South America, than do not. Brazil is the only Non-Spanish country, but it is the "U.S." of S. America : )


I'm from Germany :)
I just didn't look close enough. As soon as I noticed that is not a language I understand, I closed it ;)

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Ayvit wrote...

Started following this Thread at page 800~
Never posted anything, just wanted to be up to date, because the ending really made me "sick" and
I searched for confirmation that I was not the only one with this issue.
Just want to say that I really like with how much passion the people here post and discuss and I
really hope that it pays off in the end.
Just wanted you to know Im there too..

Hold the Line!


It's nice to see more and more of the "lurkers" saying something :) 

#55664
Hendrik.III

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SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.


That first tweet fom that pimp dude makes absolutely no sense. What snowball effect? Delivering quality and actually fulfilling your marketed promises? Yeah, would be a real damn shame to actually get what you paid for... and he calls us an idiot... tsk tsk

#55665
SpaRR

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For my defense , i'm not "pimpmyshed" :o.

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I know that we have quite a lot of the news corps and a few of the gaming mags on our side, do we have any sort of celebrities on our side?

We actually do. Mr Connery is on our side. He is even posting here :D

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#55668
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TSC_1 wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

That's what they WANT you to do! You shouldn't have to BUY the ending of a game separate from the rest of it. But if you let them get away with selling the ending separately you just wait, you'll have to buy the ending for DA3 a month after the game  too.


In principle, I agree. And if it were any series but Mass Effect, I wouldn't buy it. But I'm just too damned emotionally invested not to pay through the nose for a decent ending.

Call me weak. Call me selfish. Call me shortsighted. That's how it is, I'm afraid.


While I'm in the same boat I still wouldn't mind paying that much, since I don't believe in indoc, I just think BW screwed up. It's true they didn't deliver what they promised us, but to make a new ending would take way more personnel than just the writers who came up with that travesty, and they have a right ot be paid.

I'll admit it'd sting a bit to pay for a better ending, but Mass Effect is really the only series dear enough to my heart to actually get me to do it.

Modifié par Hydralysk, 22 mars 2012 - 08:07 .


#55669
Mr Chr15topher

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Geinen wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

"A change to the ending would be "unprecedented", says IGN's Keza MacDonald"

*cough* Fallout *cough*

Only shows once again why I can't stand IGN.



Okay this doesnt make sense to me.  If this has happened before...where fans were numerous enough to affect change on something (ie books, games, movies etc)  ...why is there so much hate directed towards this movement?

Why is it suddenly *now* considered idiotic, entitled and unrealistic?

Whats the difference?  the media?

Exactly. We are getting lots of coverage, which means that more of "those who dwell under bridges" (can't call them the word because of forum rules) have caught wind of the story. They then post anti-movement messages in forums. Some people who haven't even played the game and don't realise that it is a lie start hating us for trying to change a game.
This then escalates to include more and more people. The fact that some of the big gaming magazines like IGN are against us also doesn't hep.
That's my take on it at least.

Wish I could use :wizard: to get everyone to at least play the ending before critisizing us.

#55670
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Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I know that we have quite a lot of the news corps and a few of the gaming mags on our side, do we have any sort of celebrities on our side?

We actually do. Mr Connery is on our side. He is even posting here :D


We should try to get David Tennant on our side. He as the 10th doctor. He would talk 5 minutes, and Bioware would do everything we want after hearing him.

Anyone got a contact adress? :o

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Tessa09 wrote...

SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.


They haven't said anything yet.  Don't give up yet.


Oh, I'm not giving up...but if that is what they do I will boycott Bioware and EA, lodge a complaint with the Office of Fair Trading and take bets on how many of the Bioware staff sent to PAX manage to make it to the parking lot before the mob catches them...;)

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Ayvit wrote...

Started following this Thread at page 800~
Never posted anything, just wanted to be up to date, because the ending really made me "sick" and
I searched for confirmation that I was not the only one with this issue.
Just want to say that I really like with how much passion the people here post and discuss and I
really hope that it pays off in the end.
Just wanted you to know Im there too..

Hold the Line!

There are many soldiers like you my friend, you aren't on the front with us, but, you have our cause in your heart,  and this is what really matter.

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B33ker wrote...

Um, you're kidding, right?

Benefit of the doubt?  Even if they rode in here right now with a fixed ending for free and not just empty words promising it, they still lied outright with all the prior promises of what we would get for an ending when the game shipped, right up until the last minute, and you still trust them???  They betrayed every loyal, devoted fan in ways that should never have happened in the first place.

Just, wow.

It would take years for EA/BW to earn my trust again on any level whatsoever after this, even if they did fix it, because it should never, ever, have happened in the first place.  I really don't see myself believing anything they say without cold, hard evidence staring me in the face as they say it, and even then, I'm likely to doubt it, as they've wronged us so badly.

We didn't get the endings we were promised, that is a fact.  We were lied to right up until the game shipped, that is a fact.  What they did strips away any trust they deserved.

Do what you want, but I'll likely never trust EA/BW again.


THIS.....
I have always told friends and fellow gamers, how great Bioware is and I defended them for the mess they made with swtor, giving them the benefit of the doubt but this is just way way to much over the line. They betrayed us. They lied to us. And they are still just playing for time, still not commeting to anything. Still all we get is some PR stuff instead of just saying clearly "yes we are going to release a DLC soon that will change/add to the ending and your feedback towards it is welcome."
I don't trust them anymore and I don't think I ever will again. I will buy the DLC only after I know if the ending is any good or just some more space magic with some weirdo senseless explanations on top of it.
And I won't buy any other games from them, even if they fix this, without having seen reviews made by gamers and not by those lapdogs from all those gaming websites and magazines out there.

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Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...We actually do. Mr Connery is on our side. He is even posting here :D

The things I do for queen and country.

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Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I know that we have quite a lot of the news corps and a few of the gaming mags on our side, do we have any sort of celebrities on our side?

We actually do. Mr Connery is on our side. He is even posting here :D


We do? Alright then. Well, I tried to reach out to a few, but none of them would answer. :(
Even Child's Play is not answering my mail. I didn't ask them to support our cause, I just wanted to have a statement from them. Maybe a thank you or something.