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[Grashnin]

baronkohinar wrote...

So... If Indoc. turned out to be true... Wouldn't that mean that Marauder Shields and all he did for us was a hallucination? I don't think they can disrespect his memory like that...

Or it could be that if he kills you then there's your Reaper Wins scenario...

[chrrue_]

SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.

Just don't get to excited about every word these guys say. They have a deadline in April, until then I will wait. If they serve us just some tacked on cutscenes, I'll be gone for good

[Cybermortis]

baronkohinar wrote...

I was hoping for a bit about fighting them on the beaches... ;-)

OK, a (misquoted version) then;


We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in chatrooms, we shall fight on twitter and facebook, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength on message boards, we shall defend our ending, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,

Modifié par Cybermortis, 22 mars 2012 - 08:51 .

[DRAGONFIRE50000000]

are there any rumors i have missed

[nitefyre410]

LTBK wrote...

What they don't seem to see is that if they keep the worthless PR responses, the "yes, no, maybe" stuff, and the "we'll explain you the endings, (stupid) folks!" any longer they won't have any customers when they launch their next product. Maybe they think that we're stupid enough to forget about this and buy another BioWare game. Of course, I'm also thinking about them giving more attention to those that are literally insulting us instead of directly answer our simple and polite questions, but for some reason I'm not even surprised about that at this point.

Also, while I'm fine to pay for any proper DLC sorting the ending (because there's people that need to be paid and that have no fault on the mistakes of their bosses!), they can be damn sure that I won't be paying anything like 800 BW points (as it seems to be the norm lately) for something that was announced as being part of the game. Even less after all that we've suffered from all fronts thus far, without even a bit of true support and understanding from BioWare's part.

Anyways, they should be glad that we're asking calmly for a fix instead of just returning the game and filling a complaint for false advertising, as any reasonable person would do with any other product. If not for our past trust and respect, at least they should consider that as a big reason to hurry up and give a direct answer soon, as a "THANK YOU for your patience guys, and sorry!". Sounds reasonable, isn't it?

 

Thats because Bioware seems to think that  they are at the pinnacle and above  being critizied or replaced. What they don't understand is I and lot of people can get equally entertaining and engaging stories else... Assassins Creed comes to mind as Persona 3&4.  Bioware has been lead to be believe that are the best... while good they are not best. Thats is why their response has been so arrogant and whats going to happen and what the doing realize. Companies like Square Enix , CDPR, Atlus,  Capcom,  Ubisoft, Rockstar,  Vigil...  are all watching  how they handle this situation  very quietly. Putting plans in to motion to  grab the customers  that are going to be ditching Bioware and how to aviod this mistake in future.   

Bioware needs to trend very carefully. 

[satrack]

chrrue_ wrote...

SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.

Just don't get to excited about every word these guys say. They have a deadline in April, until then I will wait. If they serve us just some tacked on cutscenes, I'll be gone for good

Yea count me out if that's they'll come up with.

[naes1984]

Tacked on cutscenes = lost customer

[Mythandariel]

Sevantha wrote...

SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.

Its so great they decide to answer a tweet to them that insults most of their players and aren't bothered that we are being called idiots.

About the answer, well they never said they were changing the ending, its just what a lot of people start to think, after the post made by the cofounder of bioware, but he really never said anything the like. So of course they can still claim, that they never said they were going to change the ending, while at the same time make it look like they might do it or might give a better explanation to the ending we have or might not do anything at all. you know, speculations....... thats all we got since we finished the game

It could also mean that they're going ahead with their plan to release the endings via DLC as per their origional plan. You never know. This is PR double speak, remember.

[Mr Chr15topher]

Just thought of another DLC I would like to see somewhere down the line: Missions that can raise your EMS so that you don't always have to go back to MP. As much as I like it, I don't want to have to quit the SP at a climatic moment to play MP for an hour or so just to get the best ending (if they do ending DLC).

[satrack]

nitefyre410 wrote...

LTBK wrote...

What they don't seem to see is that if they keep the worthless PR responses, the "yes, no, maybe" stuff, and the "we'll explain you the endings, (stupid) folks!" any longer they won't have any customers when they launch their next product. Maybe they think that we're stupid enough to forget about this and buy another BioWare game. Of course, I'm also thinking about them giving more attention to those that are literally insulting us instead of directly answer our simple and polite questions, but for some reason I'm not even surprised about that at this point.

Also, while I'm fine to pay for any proper DLC sorting the ending (because there's people that need to be paid and that have no fault on the mistakes of their bosses!), they can be damn sure that I won't be paying anything like 800 BW points (as it seems to be the norm lately) for something that was announced as being part of the game. Even less after all that we've suffered from all fronts thus far, without even a bit of true support and understanding from BioWare's part.

Anyways, they should be glad that we're asking calmly for a fix instead of just returning the game and filling a complaint for false advertising, as any reasonable person would do with any other product. If not for our past trust and respect, at least they should consider that as a big reason to hurry up and give a direct answer soon, as a "THANK YOU for your patience guys, and sorry!". Sounds reasonable, isn't it?

 

Thats because Bioware seems to think that  they are at the pinnacle and above  being critizied or replaced. What they don't understand is I and lot of people can get equally entertaining and engaging stories else... Assassins Creed comes to mind as Persona 3&4.  Bioware has been lead to be believe that are the best... while good they are not best. Thats is why their response has been so arrogant and whats going to happen and what the doing realize. Companies like Square Enix , CDPR, Atlus,  Capcom,  Ubisoft, Rockstar,  Vigil...  are all watching  how they handle this situation  very quietly. Putting plans in to motion to  grab the customers  that are going to be ditching Bioware and how to aviod this mistake in future.   

Bioware needs to trend very carefully. 

Eidos too. Human revolution had a bigger impact on me than the Whole Mass Effect franchise just because of that ending. Even if they change or add to the ending of ME3, it's never gonna be the same. They've hurt the franchise for me.

[DRAGONFIRE50000000]

they don't have to change the end  just add more options from a dlc or something like there is said in the game that every cycle adds someting to the crucible if they make a dlc that containts new missions to get upgrades for the crucible that can add new options for the end

Modifié par DRAGONFIRE50000000, 22 mars 2012 - 08:55 .

[DJBare]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Just thought of another DLC I would like to see somewhere down the line: Missions that can raise your EMS so that you don't always have to go back to MP. As much as I like it, I don't want to have to quit the SP at a climatic moment to play MP for an hour or so just to get the best ending (if they do ending DLC).

That's a definite must for those of us who do not play MP.

[Cybermortis]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Bioware needs to trend very carefully. 

I said this, more or less, a year ago with Dragon Age II. In fact I recall stating that ME3 was going to be the last product Bioware could rely on their name to gain sales...and if it didn't live up to the expectations and was rushed they were in deep trouble. Because ME3 was their last chance to regain their dented reputation.

Funny how accurate I turned out to be....

[nitefyre410]

satrack wrote...



*snip*
Eidos too. Human revolution had a bigger impact on me than the Whole Mass Effect franchise just because of that ending. Even if they change or add to the ending of ME3, it's never gonna be the same. They've hurt the franchise for me.

 

Square Enix owns Eidos now  and Human Revolution was  damn good game... especailly in  presentation. I love the whole  look and art style. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 22 mars 2012 - 08:57 .

[naes1984]

DA2 is strike one
Mass Effect 3 Ending is strike 2
Depending on how they handle this whole situation, further botching the ending might be strike 3.

[KLGChaos]

naes1984 wrote...

That may be exaggerating a bit.

I'm not saying it's on the same scale. But it is a group protesting against the status quo and dealing with the outcry of those who favor it, usually in the form of anger and insults. Just saying we have to whether through it all if we really want change. I know that a small epilogue won't cut it for me unless it confirms the indoctrination theory.

[Darth Garrus]

DJBare wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Just thought of another DLC I would like to see somewhere down the line: Missions that can raise your EMS so that you don't always have to go back to MP. As much as I like it, I don't want to have to quit the SP at a climatic moment to play MP for an hour or so just to get the best ending (if they do ending DLC).

That's a definite must for those of us who do not play MP.

That's a very good idea. I don't like MP, and feel a little insulted that they made MP a necessary thing to achieve important things in the game. Even end results. DLCs would be a fantastic way to compensate that. And it's optional content.

[nitefyre410]

Cybermortis wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Bioware needs to trend very carefully. 

I said this, more or less, a year ago with Dragon Age II. In fact I recall stating that ME3 was going to be the last product Bioware could rely on their name to gain sales...and if it didn't live up to the expectations and was rushed they were in deep trouble. Because ME3 was their last chance to regain their dented reputation.

Funny how accurate I turned out to be....

 

I would have to say that was good a call, I was a little put off by  there response  to all of that... while I though some of the complaints were completely outlandish. Alot were spot on and one could see the game lacked  polish. Still Dragon Ages problem was and still is it does not have a  franchise idenity  its still riding the coat tails of the Mass Effect.   Now that Mass Effect is over they are going to get it stand on its own two feet.  The problem is that Bioware with there handling of the who  fiasco is starting to look like they really have no clue what they are doing.   

[Cybermortis]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Just thought of another DLC I would like to see somewhere down the line: Missions that can raise your EMS so that you don't always have to go back to MP. As much as I like it, I don't want to have to quit the SP at a climatic moment to play MP for an hour or so just to get the best ending (if they do ending DLC).

This is one area where we probably don't have to worry.

I'm guessing that BW will increase some of the war asset values in game to make it easier for those who are only interested in the SP game to get a higher score at the end of the game. They have stated that you can get a high enough level without playing MP...but I think that currently requires you to pick up every asset available in game, or near as. Such an alteration will probably appear in a simple patch - MP players would/could be compensated by either making it slightly easier to level their characters, or by adding an extra item or two that can be imported. 

[Cannonarm758]

But even if it confirms the indoctrination theory than the intent was there all along and that is how the next set of games will start.

I can understand wanting to keep the series going, but if Our character is going to sacrifice himself we need more closure and we need to see how our actions shaped the world after the fact. Leaving so much up to guessing leads me to think they can make it all better with ME4.

"Not happy with Mass Effect 3 ending, well that is because it was the prelude to ME4:Shadow of a Shepard. Now you can find out what really happened."

[Hydralysk]

Cybermortis wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Bioware needs to trend very carefully. 

I said this, more or less, a year ago with Dragon Age II. In fact I recall stating that ME3 was going to be the last product Bioware could rely on their name to gain sales...and if it didn't live up to the expectations and was rushed they were in deep trouble. Because ME3 was their last chance to regain their dented reputation.

Funny how accurate I turned out to be....

Yeah when I played DA2 it was entertaining enough I guess but it was glaringly obvoious how shoddy a lot of it was. I ended up thinking "Ok that was unwhelming, but they released ME2 a year ago and that was amazing, ME3 will definitely make up for this". Then this hit and I can't say I trust them as developers any more. They can redeem themselves in my eyes, no one's perfect, but the damage to their reputation will never fade away entirely.

[Hydralysk]

Just going to post this for anyone who hasn't voted yet:
http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

[Spartas Husky]

Cannonarm758 wrote...

but if Our character is going to sacrifice himself we need more closure and we need to see how our actions shaped the world after the fact. Leaving so much up to guessing leads me to think they can make it all better with ME4.

Thats my beef... why should he sacrificed himself?

Isn't the hero dying as much of a cliche as happy ending?

Was it not unrealistic to have everyone survive the suicide mission?
yet it was a choice. Depending on what you did you could defy the odds.

[Ambrian]

chrrue_ wrote...

SpaRR wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/182916884717518848

I think it's clear , we will have an 5mins epilogue , not a new ending , sadness.

Hold the line.

Just don't get to excited about every word these guys say. They have a deadline in April, until then I will wait. If they serve us just some tacked on cutscenes, I'll be gone for good

Changing the ending does not mean making a new one.
And yeah, even though it's silly I still believe they're about to give us a happy ending. For now we have to be patient. Just until April.
Hold the line.

[monima]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Cannonarm758 wrote...

but if Our character is going to sacrifice himself we need more closure and we need to see how our actions shaped the world after the fact. Leaving so much up to guessing leads me to think they can make it all better with ME4.

Thats my beef... why should he sacrificed himself?

Isn't the hero dying as much of a cliche as happy ending?

Was it not unrealistic to have everyone survive the suicide mission?
yet it was a choice. Depending on what you did you could defy the odds.

 
It is as cliche if you ask me. It was also unrealistic Shepard was resurrected from the dead. So why cant he/she survive this