Okay, I got a question, what's with this panic all of a sudden?, people have lives to get on with, we are still a strong group, but you will have to excuse us if we need to sleep, eat and crap.Godeskian wrote...
So what do we do now?
Already the threads on the forums are beginning to die down. There are fewer and fewer holding the line, and more just leaving bioware behind them in disgust, but if the movement goes silent, then we will lose because Bioware will correctly ascertain that there really isn't enough outcry to justify changes.
So we can't get the ending we want after all?
#55876
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:24
#55877
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:25
TSC_1 wrote...
Honestly, I'm fine with ending the Child's Play drive. Sure, it isn't our fault that people are painting Child's Play as a bad guy for "supporting" us. But the fact is, people are doing that, and it might hurt the charity. And we can't have that.
It is causing "Difficulties" for them. Take one guess what kind of difficulties and one guess at who's causing it.
#55878
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:25
Agreed. Don't panic. Sorry about the pyramid.DJBare wrote...
Okay, I got a question, what's with this panic all of a sudden?, people have lives to get on with, we are still a strong group, but you will have to excuse us if we need to sleep, eat and crap.Godeskian wrote...
So what do we do now?
Already the threads on the forums are beginning to die down. There are fewer and fewer holding the line, and more just leaving bioware behind them in disgust, but if the movement goes silent, then we will lose because Bioware will correctly ascertain that there really isn't enough outcry to justify changes.
#55879
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:25
TSC_1 wrote...
TSC_1 wrote...
Remember, people: now is the time to let Bioware know that we won't be satisfied with anything but new, real, satisfying endings. By this point, they must know that they need to do something. Given the tone of Dr. Muzyka's statement, it may be that they're considering releasing content that tries to explain away the plot holes of the current endings and that gives a little more information about what happens to the crew and the galaxy.
I don't think that's good enough. I want new endings free of plot holes, free of Starchildren, and free of logical contradictions. I want new endings that provide actual closure. I want new endings that allow my Shep to live and reunite with his friends and love interest. I want new endings where Shep fails. I want new endings that leave the mass relays intact. Above all, I want endings that make my choices throughout the trilogy matter.
Anything less is not good enough, and we need to let Bioware know that now, when they are still deciding what to do.
So let them know in this thread. Let them know in the feedback thread. Let them know on Twitter. Let them know by e-mail (contact@bioware.com). Let them know by letter. And, if you haven't yet, vote in this poll.
Self-bump.
I sent a letter. Heh, it's second one. I hope it will help.
#55880
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:25
shame charity is gone...
but we can talk here and hold the line !!!
#55881
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:26
there is no panic, let's stay civil and polite
I do not think that our ranks are getting thin - quite opposite really
let's blow off some steam and keep faith
#55882
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:28
DJBare wrote...
Okay, I got a question, what's with this panic all of a sudden?, people have lives to get on with, we are still a strong group, but you will have to excuse us if we need to sleep, eat and crap.Godeskian wrote...
So what do we do now?
Already the threads on the forums are beginning to die down. There are fewer and fewer holding the line, and more just leaving bioware behind them in disgust, but if the movement goes silent, then we will lose because Bioware will correctly ascertain that there really isn't enough outcry to justify changes.
First, It's hardly panic DJBare, I'm genuinely curious. So far much of our large scale media attention has been focussed around the fact that money has been raised for charity. I'm concerned that without that hook, it will be much harder for our voices to be heard outside of the niche of the gaming industry.
Second, what's with the patronising last sentence? Have I done something personally to ****** you off? If not, then I'd ask that you not take it out on me either. I genuinely didn't know what the next step was, I asked, and you jumped down my throat like I'd suggested stringing up babies.
If this is the level of discourse you're going to give, then please feel free to ignore my postings from here on in.
#55883
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:29
DJBare wrote...
Okay, I got a question, what's with this panic all of a sudden?, people have lives to get on with, we are still a strong group, but you will have to excuse us if we need to sleep, eat and crap.Godeskian wrote...
So what do we do now?
Already the threads on the forums are beginning to die down. There are fewer and fewer holding the line, and more just leaving bioware behind them in disgust, but if the movement goes silent, then we will lose because Bioware will correctly ascertain that there really isn't enough outcry to justify changes.
It's because the threads aren't as hot anymore. Before wednesday I could log in check the page number, go to college for about 4 hours then come back and have 20-30 pages to read up on. Now I do the same thing - except it's only 10-15 pages max I need to read. It feels like everyone has given up. I know it's not true, we're just waiting til April because we still have some trust that BioWare will keep it's word (even if they didn't originally), but that's what it feels like.
#55884
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:29
Godeskian wrote...
So what do we do now?
Already the threads on the forums are beginning to die down. There are fewer and fewer holding the line, and more just leaving bioware behind them in disgust, but if the movement goes silent, then we will lose because Bioware will correctly ascertain that there really isn't enough outcry to justify changes.
people are just waiting now, bioware have said the will be answers in april(maybe not the ones we wont who knows). I believe if they dont give us what we would like the outcry would be the begining of the end for bioware
as I like many would no longer buy their products.
#55885
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:29
Dunno, but maybe we should update the news outlets with this, clarifying that the charity is not related with us at all, and stating that the drive has ended due to them being wrongly linked with us and giving them trouble. In a neutral way, of course.Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...
TSC_1 wrote...
Honestly, I'm fine with ending the Child's Play drive. Sure, it isn't our fault that people are painting Child's Play as a bad guy for "supporting" us. But the fact is, people are doing that, and it might hurt the charity. And we can't have that.
It is causing "Difficulties" for them. Take one guess what kind of difficulties and one guess at who's causing it.
#55886
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:29
Here's my adaptation from the end of Henry IV (the newly crowned Henry V to Falstaff)
I know you not, fanbase: fall to your prayers;
How ill those donations become a fool and jester!
I have long dream'd of such a kind of fan,
So gratis-DLC-swell'd, so childish and so entitled;
But, being awaked, I do despise my dream.
Make less your numbers hence, and more your grace;
Leave campaigning; know the rubbish bin of history doth gape
For you thrice wider than for other fanbases.
Reply not to me with a fool-born jest:
Presume not that I am the thing I was;
For God doth know, so shall the world perceive,
That I have turn'd away my former self;
So will I those that kept me company.
When you doth hear I am as I have been,
Approach me, and you shall be as you were,
The dictator and the fetters of my stories:
Till then, I banish you, on pain of account cancellation,
As I have done the rest of my fanbase,
Not to come near our person by blog comments.
For competence of life I will allow you,
That lack of explanations enforce you not to confusion:
And, as we hear you do reform yourselves,
We will, according to your intelligence and qualities,
Give you paid-for-DLC.
------[to the chief justice] be it your charge, my lord,
To see perform'd the tenor of our word. Set on.
#55887
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:29
firstarioch wrote...
im still here...
shame charity is gone...
but we can talk here and hold the line !!!
why is it gone?? what have i missed?
#55888
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:31
I apologize, I've seen several posts with much the same question, your's came at a moment when I was feeling irritated, again, you have my sincere apologies.Godeskian wrote...
Second, what's with the patronising last sentence? Have I done something personally to ****** you off? If not, then I'd ask that you not take it out on me either. I genuinely didn't know what the next step was, I asked, and you jumped down my throat like I'd suggested stringing up babies.
#55889
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:31
LTBK wrote...
Dunno, but maybe we should update the news outlets with this, clarifying that the charity is not related with us at all, and stating that the drive has ended due to them being wrongly linked with us and giving them trouble. In a neutral way, of course.Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...
TSC_1 wrote...
Honestly, I'm fine with ending the Child's Play drive. Sure, it isn't our fault that people are painting Child's Play as a bad guy for "supporting" us. But the fact is, people are doing that, and it might hurt the charity. And we can't have that.
It is causing "Difficulties" for them. Take one guess what kind of difficulties and one guess at who's causing it.
I already tweeted the Forbes Guy (Erik Kain) about the Charity being down, including the explanation.
#55890
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:31
#55891
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:31
Godeskian wrote...
So what do we do now?
Already the threads on the forums are beginning to die down. There are fewer and fewer holding the line, and more just leaving bioware behind them in disgust, but if the movement goes silent, then we will lose because Bioware will correctly ascertain that there really isn't enough outcry to justify changes.
Don't worry. If BW released only an epilogue that explains their brilliant ending to us, the outrage will be even higher than it has been in past 2 weeks. Then everyone will be back or leave BW forever.
#55892
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:32
DJBare wrote...
I apologize, I've seen several posts with much the same question, your's came at a moment when I was feeling irritated, again, you have my sincere apologies.Godeskian wrote...
Second, what's with the patronising last sentence? Have I done something personally to ****** you off? If not, then I'd ask that you not take it out on me either. I genuinely didn't know what the next step was, I asked, and you jumped down my throat like I'd suggested stringing up babies.
Don't worry about it. I'm sure we're all on edge at the moment. I'll try not to ask stupid questions in the future.
#55893
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:33
GreatGeda173 wrote...
I already tweeted the Forbes Guy (Erik Kain) about the Charity being down, including the explanation.
#55894
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:33
#55895
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:34
Spartas Husky wrote...
- I am... going Disney space wizard mediocre bs ending, deserves explanations. And there has to be according to what Mass Effect stands for different endings. With Relays getting blown, with them not getting blown. Hence choices and consequences come into play
-Yes we are asking for specific ending. They mentioned thousands of variables come into play, this is the time they come into play, at the very end. Where all of them diverge into many, many different endings, from some really bad, shep dying crew dying, to some medium, to shep dying, some crew surviving, to everyone surviving, and living happily ever after.
You really haven't disagreed with anything that I've said.
#55896
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:34
and with the charity.. just shows how sick this world actually is....
#55897
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:35
LTBK wrote...
GreatGeda173 wrote...
I already tweeted the Forbes Guy (Erik Kain) about the Charity being down, including the explanation.+1 Marauder Shields badge for you.
The Marauder Shields shirt I ordered will hopefully arive in a few days
#55898
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:35
I would not be surprised if Forbes, and others, speculate about why they they no longer wish to accept our funds.
#55899
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:35
-Hold The Line
#55900
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 10:36
Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...
Godeskian wrote...
So what do we do now?
Already the threads on the forums are beginning to die down. There are fewer and fewer holding the line, and more just leaving bioware behind them in disgust, but if the movement goes silent, then we will lose because Bioware will correctly ascertain that there really isn't enough outcry to justify changes.
Don't worry. If BW released only an epilogue that explains their brilliant ending to us, the outrage will be even higher than it has been in past 2 weeks. Then everyone will be back or leave BW forever.
Agreed. A lot of ppl are checking in on daily basis, now we'll have to w8 for April, and if BW just adds an epilogue... then i think all hell will break loose once again. I hope it won't come to that!
Hold the line.




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