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[DifferentD17]

The Asari wrote...

alright gotten answer to my question, space magic got it, but earth has a relay wouln'dt earth be destroyed ??

Nah, Earth is magics too.

[Unit-Alpha]

The Asari wrote...

forgot to add these woulnd't earth, palaven, thessia, surkesh, rannoch and every other god damn livable planet out there be destroyed !

Just forget about it, space magic fixed that plot hole long ago.

[Garrus30]

Capeo wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

well I don't know if there is a video on youtube or so, but you can see them in (End03_LondonBlueBad.bik) (End03_LondonBlueGood.bik), these are exactly the same (the citadel closes its arms) and then comes the outro with explosion, so it's high like the outro will only be played with the bad version.

Those were definetely on youtube last night but I can't find them now.  Only pastebin list of all the biks.  One thing I did notice.  There is a flashback for Anderson, Kaiden, Ash, Joker and Liara.  So the whole everyone gets Liara everytime thing may just be a glitch.  The same way the pic in your quarters was glitched for the PS3 version of ME2 until they patched it.

Yeah that's most likely.

I think the reason why Tank, Space Guy, Xio got these explosions ending because they didn't meet the requirements to see the good blue (as this is the same as bad ending, it could easily be misinterpreted), which is probably the most difficult to get.

Where the Normandy, the Crew, Shepard and maybe the rest of Galaxy is save an you get the true good ending.
I mean if this is the true good and most difficult ending, than you wouldn't get this in a couple of weeks, unless you are really a hordcore gamer who has 24/7 free time.
So I have I little hope, as that the leakers just missed something. 

Modifié par Garrus30, 01 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[davidshooter]

The Asari wrote...

alright gotten answer to my question, space magic got it, but earth has a relay wouln'dt earth be destroyed ??

There is definitely a precedent that exploding relays destroy (at the very least) their own systems so if that is not happening in ME3 an explanation is necessary. 

Modifié par davidshooter, 01 mars 2012 - 04:50 .

[recentio]

Abram730 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No, I didn't. Unlike ME3 where your LI is either dead, back on earth (with no romance if you choose the VS as an LI), or stranded in bufu-Egypt. In Dragon Age 2, you can ride off into the sunset with Anders despite the result of the war. What people want with ME3 is the same thing: Death and destruction, but at the end of the day, have Shepard be with his/her crew and LI whether the Normandy crashes on Earth or Shepard ends up with the crew on the other planet. 

That is almost every game and movie ever made.. Do you eat the same meal every night too?

No one is saying the dark endings should be taken out. They are quality endings. All we want is one lighter *alternative*. One. RL is full of grief and hopeless scenarios. Why should I pay to have more of those experiences? The very idea is laughable.

[DeinonSlayer]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

HeroicRedZero001 wrote...

Has anyone considered that maybe BioWare didn't purposely put in the "Tali/Garrus Starve to Death" implication in the ending, and maybe it was just a writing oversight?

If such is the case, it's a pretty damned big oversight. <_<

Again, you could keep everything else exactly as it is. It would be a happy (and more realistic) ending for the Normandy to crash on Earth instead of being relay'd to the ass end of nowhere for no apparent reason.

Yeah, this was immense stupidity from the writers. I cannot see how it is possible that they could miss something so obvious.

Sadly enough, it would imply the fans care more about the story universe than the writers themselves. That, or intentional sadism are the only explanations I can come up with.

[jlb524]

Look, they made these endings so people would appreciate the DA2 ending and possibly forgive the game and look forward to DA3.

It's a conspiracy.

[crimzontearz]

http://social.biowar...7/index/9558578

just saying

[SpiderFan1217]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

webhead921 wrote...

Why does everyone assume tali/garrus starve to death? I don't know what is on the planet they landed on. It's possible that they could find natural sustenance. This is never told to us. People are just so bent out of shape that they didn't get the super happy dappy ending they wanted, they are just assuming the worst. For all we know, they die of old age.

I see you are new here, so I'll give you a break. Go do some research on the Mass Effect wiki about Quarian and Turian biology and get back to me.

Now this is the part where I cut in and say, "Even with their unique blood, Dextro, they still might be able to find food." Also, They may be rescued. I still say we can save them and Shep in the ending he survives.

EDIT: Typo.

Modifié par SpiderFan1217, 01 mars 2012 - 04:55 .

[Chief Savage Man]

crimzontearz wrote...

http://social.biowar...7/index/9558578

just saying

this is a horrible idea please stop enabling bioware's bull****

[Nerevar-as]

webhead921 wrote...

Why does everyone assume tali/garrus starve to death? I don't know what is on the planet they landed on. It's possible that they could find natural sustenance. This is never told to us. People are just so bent out of shape that they didn't get the super happy dappy ending they wanted, they are just assuming the worst. For all we know, they die of old age.

I really doubt a planet would evolve with species with L-aminoacid based proteins and others with D-aa. That´s the only way both the crew and team dextro can survive, so no, they´ll either die of aa deficiency or be mercy-killed before it gets to that point.

[Sia_Sinblade]

recentio wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No, I didn't. Unlike ME3 where your LI is either dead, back on earth (with no romance if you choose the VS as an LI), or stranded in bufu-Egypt. In Dragon Age 2, you can ride off into the sunset with Anders despite the result of the war. What people want with ME3 is the same thing: Death and destruction, but at the end of the day, have Shepard be with his/her crew and LI whether the Normandy crashes on Earth or Shepard ends up with the crew on the other planet. 

That is almost every game and movie ever made.. Do you eat the same meal every night too?

No one is saying the dark endings should be taken out. They are quality endings. All we want is one lighter *alternative*. One. RL is full of grief and hopeless scenarios. Why should I pay to have more of those experiences? The very idea is laughable.

Actually, quite a few people like to rage that the endings do not make sense.

I hear you though. I would have liked a true "good" ending just for the heck of it. My headcanon Shep fits perfectly into the leaked endings and it works for me...

But a lighter option would have been "nice to have".

Not a dealbreaker...but I would support you guys who desperately want it.

[ratzerman]

Still looking for a reason for all of this. What was Bioware's motivation?

And it can't be that they're sick of Mass Effect. EA wouldn't let them nuke such a high profile IP. There's something happening behind the scenes that we can't grasp right now. There's a method to this madness. There has to be.

[Abram730]

albertalad wrote...

Bubalo wrote...

I actually applaud Bioware for the endings they put in, looking forward to the game even more now.

Yeah, its all about YOU - and YOU have your ending of choice. Just quit being silly when soneone else other that YOU may have different choices. You got yours and if YOU had any integrity you'd actully try and help us get the ending of OUR choice. Is that to much to ask of you?

You get almost every game and movie ending ever made. Finally there is a good ending and it's a problem.. again just like FO3. 100% kittens, puppies and rainbow bright or there is a problem, 99.9% is totally unexceptionable to "YOU"..

Yep it's "ALL ABOUT US".

Modifié par Abram730, 01 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[Elegana]

Abram730 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No, I didn't. Unlike ME3 where your LI is either dead, back on earth (with no romance if you choose the VS as an LI), or stranded in bufu-Egypt. In Dragon Age 2, you can ride off into the sunset with Anders despite the result of the war. What people want with ME3 is the same thing: Death and destruction, but at the end of the day, have Shepard be with his/her crew and LI whether the Normandy crashes on Earth or Shepard ends up with the crew on the other planet. 

That is almost every game and movie ever made.. Do you eat the same meal every night too?

In my house hold with a father who is addicted to exercise and health, yes. It's either chicken or fish.

[mulder1199]

Risselda wrote...

I am still under the impression it would not take all the species working together long to figure out space travel. Asari already have basic mass relay knowledge. Shep wouldnt be alone forever...they would send people to the citadel to investigate (right?) that wouldnt even require mass relays. And if Shep is alone in teh blast on earth...thats an easy save.

tbh....maybe this is making even a better headcannon for us. A new adventure.

Anyone know if the keepers survive? With all reaper stuff gone...they know how the citadel works...

this is going to be about the only thing that could salvage this, beyond a patch or dlc.....an announcement soon that the 'hold onto your ME3 saves' wasn't crap, and the ends all needed to be close so ME4 can put the galaxy back together....

[mulder1199]

ratzerman wrote...

Still looking for a reason for all of this. What was Bioware's motivation?

And it can't be that they're sick of Mass Effect. EA wouldn't let them nuke such a high profile IP. There's something happening behind the scenes that we can't grasp right now. There's a method to this madness. There has to be.

ME4=putting the galaxy back together, set basically right after ME3....this is about all i can get to.....

or day1 patch will add/open up a better ending or DLC will fix things up a bit....

[Nerevar-as]

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

recentio wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No, I didn't. Unlike ME3 where your LI is either dead, back on earth (with no romance if you choose the VS as an LI), or stranded in bufu-Egypt. In Dragon Age 2, you can ride off into the sunset with Anders despite the result of the war. What people want with ME3 is the same thing: Death and destruction, but at the end of the day, have Shepard be with his/her crew and LI whether the Normandy crashes on Earth or Shepard ends up with the crew on the other planet. 

That is almost every game and movie ever made.. Do you eat the same meal every night too?

No one is saying the dark endings should be taken out. They are quality endings. All we want is one lighter *alternative*. One. RL is full of grief and hopeless scenarios. Why should I pay to have more of those experiences? The very idea is laughable.

Actually, quite a few people like to rage that the endings do not make sense.

I hear you though. I would have liked a true "good" ending just for the heck of it. My headcanon Shep fits perfectly into the leaked endings and it works for me...

But a lighter option would have been "nice to have".

Not a dealbreaker...but I would support you guys who desperately want it.

Well, it´s a proper ending for my Renegon Infiltrator, for my other 5 Sheps, including Paragon Adept, not so much.

[Chief Savage Man]

ratzerman wrote...

Still looking for a reason for all of this. What was Bioware's motivation?

And it can't be that they're sick of Mass Effect. EA wouldn't let them nuke such a high profile IP. There's something happening behind the scenes that we can't grasp right now. There's a method to this madness. There has to be.

They think they are better writers than they are. They have some deluded sense that Mass Effect isn't just a fun game but actually a literary masterpiece and that they should make it more 'compelling'. Trying to reinvent the wheel and all of that.

[webhead921]

Nerevar-as wrote...

webhead921 wrote...

Why does everyone assume tali/garrus starve to death? I don't know what is on the planet they landed on. It's possible that they could find natural sustenance. This is never told to us. People are just so bent out of shape that they didn't get the super happy dappy ending they wanted, they are just assuming the worst. For all we know, they die of old age.

I really doubt a planet would evolve with species with L-aminoacid based proteins and others with D-aa. That´s the only way both the crew and team dextro can survive, so no, they´ll either die of aa deficiency or be mercy-killed before it gets to that point.

It's an open ended.  And it's fiction.  You are free to make whatever assumptions you want, but they are still just assumptions.  It's not like all of a sudden it's canon that Tali and Garrus starved to death.  Also, who knows how much food they have on the normandy, or if the planet has others (including possibly turians and/or quarians on it).  We just don't know, and people are assuming the worst.

[Deludedcon]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Deludedcon wrote...


Welp...unless one of those DLCs is "HAPPY_ENDING.EXE" i'm pretty much not going anywhere as far as that is concerned.

And yes. I'm a big baby Paragon and want to see some happy times. It should have just been an option, still could have kept the doom bringing ending in for those that went that path but seriously? Ah well, this has been beaten to death already so i'll stop there. Sorry!

Yeah anything they release should've been in the main story if it can't take place afterward.

Don't be sorry, I agree with you. And each person that says something makes our cause better I suppose.

True, true. I don't want this wonderfully crafted universe ruined for me...or my Shepard and her adventures. 

And before anyone naysays about that - they said it themselves~Shepard's *Canon* is what you make it into. 

Apparently up until the end but still holding out for something justifiable! And if not i'll be the first to let people stomp all over my dream bubble before I recreate my own ending with head canon like a ******. Shh...just...just let it happen.

[Nerevar-as]

webhead921 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

webhead921 wrote...

Why does everyone assume tali/garrus starve to death? I don't know what is on the planet they landed on. It's possible that they could find natural sustenance. This is never told to us. People are just so bent out of shape that they didn't get the super happy dappy ending they wanted, they are just assuming the worst. For all we know, they die of old age.

I really doubt a planet would evolve with species with L-aminoacid based proteins and others with D-aa. That´s the only way both the crew and team dextro can survive, so no, they´ll either die of aa deficiency or be mercy-killed before it gets to that point.

It's an open ended.  And it's fiction.  You are free to make whatever assumptions you want, but they are still just assumptions.  It's not like all of a sudden it's canon that Tali and Garrus starved to death.  Also, who knows how much food they have on the normandy, or if the planet has others (including possibly turians and/or quarians on it).  We just don't know, and people are assuming the worst.

The end to The Witcher saga was open ended and open to interpretation. This isn´t, at least for someone with passing notions of biology.

[albertalad]

webhead921 wrote...

Why does everyone assume tali/garrus starve to death? I don't know what is on the planet they landed on. It's possible that they could find natural sustenance. This is never told to us. People are just so bent out of shape that they didn't get the super happy dappy ending they wanted, they are just assuming the worst. For all we know, they die of old age.

Super happy ending - are you for real? Billions dead, earth 2/3 wiped out, and the best we can hope for is a stranded crew to nowhere with no way of knowing their fate, the galaxy relays shut down stranding entire system with billions more left to die, then kick us in the wound Sheppard might live while his L1 and crew isn't even an after thought? Meat eater like Garris eats what, where? A crew foreced into inbreeding for what? That's not only sick and severly twisted, that's sadastic even at best. And YOU call that a happy ending for YOU?

[Capeo]

Garrus30 wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

well I don't know if there is a video on youtube or so, but you can see them in (End03_LondonBlueBad.bik) (End03_LondonBlueGood.bik), these are exactly the same (the citadel closes its arms) and then comes the outro with explosion, so it's high like the outro will only be played with the bad version.

Those were definetely on youtube last night but I can't find them now.  Only pastebin list of all the biks.  One thing I did notice.  There is a flashback for Anderson, Kaiden, Ash, Joker and Liara.  So the whole everyone gets Liara everytime thing may just be a glitch.  The same way the pic in your quarters was glitched for the PS3 version of ME2 until they patched it.

Yeah that's most likely.

I think the reason why Tank, Space Guy, Xio got these explosions ending because they didn't meet the requirements to see the good blue (as this is the same as bad ending, it could easily be misinterpreted), which is probably the most difficult to get.

Where the Normandy, the Crew, Shepard and maybe the rest of Galaxy is save an you get the true good ending.
I mean if this is the true good and most difficult ending, than you wouldn't get this in a couple of weeks, unless you are really a hordcore gamer who has 24/7 free time.
So I have I little hope, as that the leakers just missed something. 

I don't know.  Tank even has a chart up now on how to get each ending.  Every one of them has the Normandy stranded.  The only thing that changes is who steps out of the hatch.  I'd have to go look at it but I believe the hardest to get is Merge.  I know the script says Merge is the "perfect" ending.  I'll check it out shortly.  And Xio played an NG+ maxed everything out and still got the stranded ending.

I'd love to be wrong though.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

GSS115 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

GSS115 wrote...

It's late and I'm tired please excuse any typos.

I think we're being BioTrolled.  This is the franchise final huraah and all this drama is Bioware's way of screwing with us.  Choice was this all important thing in the first 2 games, and now they drop it?

Xio's statments are most likely true as the mods didn't ban him.  However, I think the space edition is purposeley incomplete.  Or Xio is a BioTool trying to fire (at least 75% of) us up.  Wasn't there something about an NDA.  Anyway the pics, vids, and personal accounts are definitly legit.  But there may be more to it that we're not being told..

Bioware knows where most of us would call foul.  This is too easy to pick apart and hate on. 

This is too conveinient to have all this info pop up in the last 48 hours. 

This is Bioware's way of getting their last laugh over us. 

Well, Thats what I think.
Good Night and peace be with you all.

Except this only brings about angry fans. People have cancelled their pre-orders over this. It, as a marketing strategy, is moronic at best. 

A handfull of cancelations doesn't compare to the 800,000 sum people who probably already paid in full and don't care enough about the story to rage-quit over this madness.  If the basis of this thread is proven false on the 6th, that handfull of people that did cancel will do a 180.  I would happily do so.

Proplem is, pre-sales do not a successful sequel make.