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albertalad

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webhead921 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

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Why does everyone assume tali/garrus starve to death? I don't know what is on the planet they landed on. It's possible that they could find natural sustenance. This is never told to us. People are just so bent out of shape that they didn't get the super happy dappy ending they wanted, they are just assuming the worst. For all we know, they die of old age.


Super happy ending - are you for real? Billions dead, earth 2/3 wiped out, and the best we can hope for is a stranded crew to nowhere with no way of knowing their fate, the galaxy relays shut down stranding entire system with billions more left to die, then kick us in the wound Sheppard might live while his L1 and crew isn't even an after thought? Meat eater like Garris eats what, where? A crew foreced into inbreeding for what? That's not only sick and severly twisted, that's sadastic even at best. And YOU call that a happy ending for YOU?

I respect your choice to like ME3 endings - in essence you get what you need out of this game. However, I do not get what I need from ME 3 IF and I say IF at this point the endings are as leaked. I'm far from the only individual who feels this way - after all it was BW would claimed MY choice actually counted to toward the end. That was the case in ME1 and 2 the same BW claiming my choices mattered. Well, my choices didn't matter what so ever. I, we, were promised closure on L1s - BS! Not gonna happen. The fact is who let who down here? Not me - I did exactly what BW asked of me - made choices in good faith based on BW's own claims. I did not let them down - they threw everything I did in the toilet for what? BW did NOT live up to their end of the deal - BW forced me into this silly ending even Greek tradegies aren't that silly. I supported those guys with my bucks - Now I feel I have more than a legimate complaint about this forced ending. Just having the Normany crash back on earth is all that I'm asking for. Very, very little to ask on my part. Sheppard deserves a normal life after all that's happened to him.

It's not exactly a happy ending, but it's still better than ALL LIFE BEING DESTROYED.  If 2/3 are wiped out, at least 1/3 can continue living.  And from what I've seen/heard of the epilogue, it is implied that life continues on the planets.



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I always knew ME wasn't gonna end well the reapers are to powerful an enemy it is going to take something drastic and on a massive scale to stop em and that never ends well.

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"I didn't get to live happily ever after with my space waifu" =/= "skimped out."



Toally unrelated...why is it so popular to write out japanese pronounciation of english terms for husband and wife? Did I miss something?


There are a lot of anime/manga fans here. I hate it, but that's beside the point.

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Bubalo wrote... Something doesnt seem right with these endings. Bioware must know how big this game is going to be- most anticipated of 2012.  If they blow it up, it'll be a Mists of Pandaria tragedy all over again. And everyone knows what happened with that.


I'm a WoW player and I do not know what went on with that. All I know is we're getting pandas, a large turtle, and more Horde vs. Alliance crap. Still sounds more promising than what we have coming for our Sheps in ME3.

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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Toally unrelated...why is it so popular to write out japanese pronounciation of english terms for husband and wife? Did I miss something?

It's an otaku/obsessive anime fan/weeaboo joke.

Waifu/husbando implies someone is a little too much in love/obsessed with a character.

I call Garrus my space husbando all the time to lampoon my own fangirlism.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Toally unrelated...why is it so popular to write out japanese pronounciation of english terms for husband and wife? Did I miss something?

It's an otaku/obsessive anime fan/weeaboo joke.

Waifu/husbando implies someone is a little too much in love/obsessed with a character.

I call Garrus my space husbando all the time to lampoon my own fangirlism.


Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. :)

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Chief Savage Man wrote...

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Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 


You must have played a different game.


i did  not  hate the endings in DA2.  It's a game I still putt out and play.  I don't play DA:O any more.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

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so theres a guardian controlling the reapers. what ever happend to sovereign saying ''we are each a nation, independent.'' i think bioware created a story that was even too big for them to handle.


The problem is that the lead writer of Mass Effect 1 and 2 didn't work on 3. I wish Drew had been working on Mass Effect 3 instead of SW:TOR :(


Something doesnt seem right with these endings. Bioware must know how big this game is going to be- most anticipated of 2012.  If they blow it up, it'll be a Mists of Pandaria tragedy all over again. And everyone knows what happened with that.

How could the whole story be so epic, but then skimp out on the ending.


Because Bioware's writers think they are writing Homer's Odyssey, when in fact they are barely more competent than a fan fiction writer. Not a personal attack, but they are forgetting massive sections of lore.


Iknow thats what im saying it like they have completly forgot about the two first games, i would actually pay the writers of ME 3 to play the first to games again so they would actually know whats going on 

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Just to reiterate....bioware already stated there will be no post-game dlc. the end is the end. so unless they really try to make us pay for an alternative ending....which is where I draw the line, this is what we get.

The only loophole I see is possibly with the prothean dlc...that might alter the ending. maybe

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

"I didn't get to live happily ever after with my space waifu" =/= "skimped out."


By "skimped out" you mean bad writing? Because if you think that people are only upset due to the fact that their Shepard cannot get reunited with their space waifu, I would disagree with you.

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

Still listening to the podcast, Casey says that the people who played it really loved the game and ending.

>:|


I don't trust other peoples opinions that much.  Be it movie critics, book critics or video game players.  I'll play the game and make my own judgement, applying that to future games. :)

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albertalad wrote...

webhead921 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

webhead921 wrote...

Why does everyone assume tali/garrus starve to death? I don't know what is on the planet they landed on. It's possible that they could find natural sustenance. This is never told to us. People are just so bent out of shape that they didn't get the super happy dappy ending they wanted, they are just assuming the worst. For all we know, they die of old age.


Super happy ending - are you for real? Billions dead, earth 2/3 wiped out, and the best we can hope for is a stranded crew to nowhere with no way of knowing their fate, the galaxy relays shut down stranding entire system with billions more left to die, then kick us in the wound Sheppard might live while his L1 and crew isn't even an after thought? Meat eater like Garris eats what, where? A crew foreced into inbreeding for what? That's not only sick and severly twisted, that's sadastic even at best. And YOU call that a happy ending for YOU?

I respect your choice to like ME3 endings - in essence you get what you need out of this game. However, I do not get what I need from ME 3 IF and I say IF at this point the endings are as leaked. I'm far from the only individual who feels this way - after all it was BW would claimed MY choice actually counted to toward the end. That was the case in ME1 and 2 the same BW claiming my choices mattered. Well, my choices didn't matter what so ever. I, we, were promised closure on L1s - BS! Not gonna happen. The fact is who let who down here? Not me - I did exactly what BW asked of me - made choices in good faith based on BW's own claims. I did not let them down - they threw everything I did in the toilet for what? BW did NOT live up to their end of the deal - BW forced me into this silly ending even Greek tradegies aren't that silly. I supported those guys with my bucks - Now I feel I have more than a legimate complaint about this forced ending. Just having the Normany crash back on earth is all that I'm asking for. Very, very little to ask on my part. Sheppard deserves a normal life after all that's happened to him.

It's not exactly a happy ending, but it's still better than ALL LIFE BEING DESTROYED.  If 2/3 are wiped out, at least 1/3 can continue living.  And from what I've seen/heard of the epilogue, it is implied that life continues on the planets.


Yea, I understand where you are coming from.  It would have been nice to have more options (including a happier option), instead of essentially the same ending with minor variations.  I don't love the endings, but I don't hate them either.  My main issue is that there's a significant number of people here complaining that the ending implies the galaxy is screwed and garrus and tali starve etc. etc., when from what I've seen/read about the epilouge, it implies that life goes on.  

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On another note...I was hoping the end to me3 would tie in with the epic ending credit some to me1. Would be a really, really nice circle.

the song...though i think we all know it :/

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Risselda wrote...

Just to reiterate....bioware already stated there will be no post-game dlc. the end is the end. so unless they really try to make us pay for an alternative ending....which is where I draw the line, this is what we get.

The only loophole I see is possibly with the prothean dlc...that might alter the ending. maybe


There is no way the prothian dlc would alter then ending. That would make zero sense.

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

Still listening to the podcast, Casey says that the people who played it really loved the game and ending.

>:|


I know you're just the messenger, so this isn't directed at you, but
1) Of course he's going to say that, he's not going to say they were all disappointed
2) All along we've been told your choices will drive the outcome - too late to reverse that now
3) I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find quotes from the DA2 producers saying "people who played it really loved the game and ending"
4) There's a bit of a self-selection problem here, in that the people they'd chose to try out the game are the ones most likely to "love" anything that was put in front of them

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

Risselda wrote...

Just to reiterate....bioware already stated there will be no post-game dlc. the end is the end. so unless they really try to make us pay for an alternative ending....which is where I draw the line, this is what we get.

The only loophole I see is possibly with the prothean dlc...that might alter the ending. maybe


There is no way the prothian dlc would alter then ending. That would make zero sense.


prothean space magic :(

its in there without the prothean...maybe the prothean could alter it.

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Lizardviking wrote...

By "skimped out" you mean bad writing? Because if you think that people are only upset due to the fact that their Shepard cannot get reunited with their space waifu, I would disagree with you.

Again, "the endings don't line up with what I had planned in my headcanon" =/= "bad writing."

Now, what is your complaint, precisely?  Personally, I think the Normandy thing was uncessecary, but I think it's intended to be a metaphor for starting over, heading into an unknown future, being forced to rebuild from next to nothing.  A not-so-spectacularly executed metaphor, but one nonetheless.

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Risselda wrote...

Just to reiterate....bioware already stated there will be no post-game dlc. the end is the end. so unless they really try to make us pay for an alternative ending....which is where I draw the line, this is what we get.

The only loophole I see is possibly with the prothean dlc...that might alter the ending. maybe


And that would mean you'd still have to buy DLC for an alternative ending.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Toally unrelated...why is it so popular to write out japanese pronounciation of english terms for husband and wife? Did I miss something?

It's an otaku/obsessive anime fan/weeaboo joke.

Waifu/husbando implies someone is a little too much in love/obsessed with a character.

I call Garrus my space husbando all the time to lampoon my own fangirlism.


Why do non-japanese people love japanese words so much? I don't get it. I'm only half white and my entire japanese side of the family doesn't do any of this. Even the ones who watch anime. 

Edited for maybe racist terms. 

Modifié par Sashimi_taco, 01 mars 2012 - 05:29 .


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Sorry, the more I think about this, the more there are inconsistencies appearing in one or two places when it comes down to non-user sources and leaker sources.

I'd go into further detail, but honestly, I don't think it's worthwhile doing so.

Regardless, so I don't get one usual response, I'm not bothered by the leaked info if it turns out to be true, as I've always said. So, please don't say I'm hoping for things to not be true.

I would like to say that it's possibly best you don't blindly believe absolutely everything you read though and adopt the wait and see approach, like I have.

One thing I would like to state though, according to leaks:

The space edition person has had a GAW score or EMS of between 4,000 - 4,500, has he not? After readiness has been taken into account.

I believe it has been said that you can get the best ending with a score of 4,000 or more with the right choices, but you need 5,000 to be guaranteed it.

Also worth noting it took around 23 hours to complete.

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So the yeast here is that the game sucks cause i couldn't bang my space wifey at the end i'm gonna say it again most people think Mass Effect is just a dating simulator apparently. I guess they should've called it the Dating Effect insted.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Risselda wrote...

Just to reiterate....bioware already stated there will be no post-game dlc. the end is the end. so unless they really try to make us pay for an alternative ending....which is where I draw the line, this is what we get.

The only loophole I see is possibly with the prothean dlc...that might alter the ending. maybe


And that would mean you'd still have to buy DLC for an alternative ending.


But you would be getting quest/squad content along with that...thats ok with me.
Im talking about paying for just an ending/ minimal content

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

By "skimped out" you mean bad writing? Because if you think that people are only upset due to the fact that their Shepard cannot get reunited with their space waifu, I would disagree with you.

Again, "the endings don't line up with what I had planned in my headcanon" =/= "bad writing."

Now, what is your complaint, precisely?  Personally, I think the Normandy thing was uncessecary, but I think it's intended to be a metaphor for starting over, heading into an unknown future, being forced to rebuild from next to nothing.  A not-so-spectacularly executed metaphor, but one nonetheless.

Story's all about how it's executed.  If it's not executed well, it sucks.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

By "skimped out" you mean bad writing? Because if you think that people are only upset due to the fact that their Shepard cannot get reunited with their space waifu, I would disagree with you.

Again, "the endings don't line up with what I had planned in my headcanon" =/= "bad writing."

Now, what is your complaint, precisely?  Personally, I think the Normandy thing was uncessecary, but I think it's intended to be a metaphor for starting over, heading into an unknown future, being forced to rebuild from next to nothing.  A not-so-spectacularly executed metaphor, but one nonetheless.


It is the Normandy part for me that kills it.

I could elaborate futher, but I am not sure how welcome one is to post spoilers right now in public forums.