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[VigilancePress]

Okay gang, we really need to put the paranoia and speculation to bed. Stop trying to "Blame" things on people or companies without any kind of proof. The charity has given an official response as to why it needed to end the drive from Retake Mass Effect. It was a policy issue, and it's really a fair policy as far as I can see.

Rather than trying to find another charity to put together, let's focus on helping to shape next week's news and events. Let's continue to discuss what we didn't like (or like!) about the game, and let's continue to let our messages reach the people of BioWare.

Here's the thing. If we act like cranky, blame-throwing loudmouths, they will tune us out(or even lock this thread, which they can do if we start making it about attacking people instead of discussing the topic of the ending). They won't hear what we have to say, and they won't take us seriously. To be taken seriously, we need to continue to be polite, assertive, and focused on our goal.

Our goal is to get what we believe they owe us: a proper ending to the game, one that meets the stated parameters they gave us time and time again in the promotional materials. We want Mass Effect back.

I want an ending that gives me control of the narrative back until the credits roll. I want an ending that doesn't pass the story over to some unknown character and his kid. I want closure, I want to see an ending where I can survive and stand beside my friends and enjoy the galaxy we saved together. That's what I've been playing these games for 5 years *for*. That's what I want.

What are you guys holding out for?

Hold the line!

[KLGChaos]

Joyceee wrote...

Your comments about the pro-ending vs. anti-ending groups have been very enlightening! Thanks for that. At the end of the day, despite all the negativity coming in from haters, we should all be proud of how the community has united. I personally believe this is the biggest testament showing our love, passion and adoration for BioWare. Hate on us if you want, but damn, you can't take any of this away from us!

Be proud! Hold The Line!

Thank you. Don't get me wrong-- I'm not saying all anti-ending people are civil and all pro-ending people are throwing insults and deriding Bioware. As Mordin says, there's outliers in every species. It's just a trend I've noticed on this and other forums.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Lord Emporer wrote...

yep it is, when i got to the pick A,B,C part i thought that there HAD to be an out when i got there so i restarted the level still no go and when i got there again i looked around and affter a little bit i died. it was the standed game over but that is how i will end it if i ever play again. no A,B or C for me thanks.

The first time I played the ending I couldn't talk TIM into shooting himself so I just watched, he shot Anderson (because I didn't want to use the Renegade Interrupt) and I was like "Nooooooo" then waited for a Paragon Interrupt to shoot him, but didn't get it so I again ignored the Renegade interrupt and he shot me and  I died....that right there is a better ending than the stupid A, B, C options <_< and space magic 

[Goikiu]

Goikiu from Italian Fleet reporting in.

Good morning to all the fleets.

Any Kind of News?

[sydranark]

Lord Emporer wrote...

The Fazzle wrote...

Lord Emporer wrote...

you know, all you have been complaining that there are only three ending A,B and C. But there is an option D.....bleed to death......just saying.

That really an option? If I'd known that, I would have totally gone with that one...indirectly giving the starchild the finger.

yep it is, when i got to the pick A,B,C part i thought that there HAD to be an out when i got there so i restarted the level still no go and when i got there again i looked around and affter a little bit i died. it was the standed game over but that is how i will end it if i ever play again. no A,B or C for me thanks.

how about an option to just kill the reapers and get on with life. i mean, wasn't the crucible meant to specifically destroy the reapers. no one would have agreed to even building it if it was some huge pulse bomb that killed all synthetics and blew up all of the relays, thus killing all life in all solar systems that had relays. 

[IndustrializedTaco]

VigilancePress wrote...

Okay gang, we really need to put the paranoia and speculation to bed. Stop trying to "Blame" things on people or companies without any kind of proof. The charity has given an official response as to why it needed to end the drive from Retake Mass Effect. It was a policy issue, and it's really a fair policy as far as I can see.

Rather than trying to find another charity to put together, let's focus on helping to shape next week's news and events. Let's continue to discuss what we didn't like (or like!) about the game, and let's continue to let our messages reach the people of BioWare.

Here's the thing. If we act like cranky, blame-throwing loudmouths, they will tune us out(or even lock this thread, which they can do if we start making it about attacking people instead of discussing the topic of the ending). They won't hear what we have to say, and they won't take us seriously. To be taken seriously, we need to continue to be polite, assertive, and focused on our goal.

Our goal is to get what we believe they owe us: a proper ending to the game, one that meets the stated parameters they gave us time and time again in the promotional materials. We want Mass Effect back.

I want an ending that gives me control of the narrative back until the credits roll. I want an ending that doesn't pass the story over to some unknown character and his kid. I want closure, I want to see an ending where I can survive and stand beside my friends and enjoy the galaxy we saved together. That's what I've been playing these games for 5 years *for*. That's what I want.

What are you guys holding out for?

Hold the line!

Sigh. You are right. We need to get back on track, and consider where to go from this. We will take back ME3. HOLD THE LINE!

[SkaldFish]

Militarized wrote...

Demonburnt wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...


A friend of mine just asked me to post this here. I don't know if it has been posted before.

A Logical Breakdown on Why the Mass Effect 3 ending makes no sense

It is quite a long manifest, but very thorough and worthy reading.

/Salute

There was a post few hours ago (5~ lol) that i saw when i was at work.

It explained the ending and made sense (bar the teleporting squadmates).

I came to the conclusion as the ending/s being "Deep and Symbolic" and you need to look at the bigger picture.

But then it hit me, bioware is selling a product to the general public, not some "200k" canvas with a smidge of red paint that only a group of very "sophisticated" people would understand.

Im sorry if im not intellectual enough to understand, but if i wanted to look at "Deep and Symbolic" crap i would go to the art museum.

I consider myself an "intellectual" if one can do that, I can see the angles that they were aiming for at certain points but a lot of it is muddled. You have to be looking for it and not letting the story play out like it's supposed to, from my perspective... that's why it fails. It's trying to be high brow when it shouldn't. 

Not to mention their idea of deep is simply cliche and lame. 

No analysis claiming that understanding of the ending requires an ability to recognize depth and symbolism is valid unless it can be proven that the creator intended it. I can give a Droopy Dog cartoon depth and symbolism by picking out elements and making up content around them. But Tex Avery just meant it to be a funny cartoon.

[-PG-Skyre]

Hydralysk wrote...

N7_Sniper91 wrote...

Honestly, I'm starting to think about playing ME3 again. I haven't picked up my Xbox controller since the 9th. After I saw the endings, I just couldn't do it.

Now, I'm tempted to play again, but just thinking about those endings...

I'd personally recommend playing something else until we get a response from Bioware since they do track information on what you are doing in the game and we'd like to make a statement. That being said, if you want to replay ME3 I have no right to stop you and I hope you do enjoy it if you do decide to play.

Thats why I've been playing strategy games and Mount & Blade. Steering clear of my ME collection all together until we get a good and proper answer that they'd swear their company to....although I really would love to work on my multiplayer toons a bit >.> but meh.

[Lord Emporer]

xHezz90 wrote...

Lord Emporer wrote...

yep it is, when i got to the pick A,B,C part i thought that there HAD to be an out when i got there so i restarted the level still no go and when i got there again i looked around and affter a little bit i died. it was the standed game over but that is how i will end it if i ever play again. no A,B or C for me thanks.

The first time I played the ending I couldn't talk TIM into shooting himself so I just watched, he shot Anderson (because I didn't want to use the Renegade Interrupt) and I was like "Nooooooo" then waited for a Paragon Interrupt to shoot him, but didn't get it so I again ignored the Renegade interrupt and he shot me and  I died....that right there is a better ending than the stupid A, B, C options <_< and space magic 

nice, i still like saying screw you to God robo kid....thing  no space magic to kill everyone and then have my team leave me, nope let the reapers get em:devil:

Modifié par Lord Emporer, 23 mars 2012 - 07:37 .

[Jetfire99]

Good evening I been thinking most of the night on something I'd like to share. There seems to be an something official word on this coming in April. We may be best to keep out selves going here, vote on polls, offer feedback on what's driving us where we can. But otherwise just keep going but not falling to the behaviour that killed the other thread.

Modifié par Jetfire99, 23 mars 2012 - 07:38 .

[RatedRRachel]

VigilancePress wrote...

*snip*

I want an ending that gives me control of the narrative back until the credits roll. I want an ending that doesn't pass the story over to some unknown character and his kid. I want closure, I want to see an ending where I can survive and stand beside my friends and enjoy the galaxy we saved together. That's what I've been playing these games for 5 years *for*. That's what I want.

What are you guys holding out for?

Hold the line!

I want an ending that makes sense in the lore of the franchise. The ending ten minutes just totally throw everything you have learned about the reapers out the window and we are only left with the word of some StarChild. I want to see the battle for Earth with the armies that I have recruited. The game was promoted as "taking back Earth" and we only saw some of the battle over Earth and Shepard's short run through London to get to the beam. I want to see the ramifications for my action throughout the past three games mean something. And above all else, I want an ending where I know what happens to the characters I have fallen in love with. I don't want to just have speculation on how they will all survive. I wanted a complete experience, and I thought that the third game would wrap it up. It was 98% of the way there; now I just hope that Bioware finishes the 2% to complement the game before it. 

[Lord Costantino]

Jetfire99 wrote...

Good evening I been thinking most of the night on something I'd like to share. There seems to be an something official word on this coming in April. We may be best to keep out selves going here, vote on polls, offer feedback on what's driving us where we can. But otherwise just keep going but not falling to the behaviour that killed the other thread.

Agreed, had a rage moment earlier because of just how poorly this is whole ending is being handled  But the official word is going to be April, need to stay positive till then 

[lanep25]

Moderators are shutting down forum topics left and right. I hope this one doesn't become one of them.

[Mavaras]

lanep25 wrote...

Moderators are shutting down forum topics left and right. I hope this one doesn't become one of them.

I hope not too. Of course, there is discourse going on in other parts of the interwebs; that is, if one had no place to meanginfully post and felt so inclined. 

Modifié par Mavaras, 23 mars 2012 - 07:46 .

[RagingCeltik]

xHezz90 wrote...

Lord Emporer wrote...

yep it is, when i got to the pick A,B,C part i thought that there HAD to be an out when i got there so i restarted the level still no go and when i got there again i looked around and affter a little bit i died. it was the standed game over but that is how i will end it if i ever play again. no A,B or C for me thanks.

The first time I played the ending I couldn't talk TIM into shooting himself so I just watched, he shot Anderson (because I didn't want to use the Renegade Interrupt) and I was like "Nooooooo" then waited for a Paragon Interrupt to shoot him, but didn't get it so I again ignored the Renegade interrupt and he shot me and  I died....that right there is a better ending than the stupid A, B, C options <_< and space magic 

I never did get why I was being forced into renegade interrupts.   Up 'til that point I was 100% paragon.   It seemed odd to me that I was being forced to betray my "alignment", and weird that shoot TIM to save Anderson is a renegade option especially when no other is given.

[lanep25]

Mavaras wrote...

lanep25 wrote...

Moderators are shutting down forum topics left and right. I hope this one doesn't become one of them.

I hope not too. Of course, there is discourse going on in other parts of the interwebs; that is, if one had no place to meanginfully post and felt so inclined. 

Anyone of them you'd recommend?

Modifié par lanep25, 23 mars 2012 - 07:48 .

[Phoenix NL]

True but there is no reason that this thread needs to be shut down if we stay on topic and avoid throwing blame around at people. The line has always been that they want "constructive discussion" so lets stick to that!

[XJ347]

Lord Costantino wrote...
Agreed, had a rage moment earlier because of just how poorly this is whole ending is being handled  But the official word is going to be April, need to stay positive till then 

Yep must be patient until April, then we get to know if this movement picks up the heat or will joyfully celebrate our new endings.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Anyone else worried about the official announcement in April? I'm worried, if we don't get what this series deserves and what we were promised as customers that this thread, and all of us who have been very civil and respectful are going to go off the deep end and have massive rage-athons (yes I know this isn't a word) pitchforks and all. If we don't get what we have been asking for, and only get a slap dab bandage, sure we can stop buying Bioware and even EA products, sure we can sell our games or trade them in, but isn't that kind of against what we are fighting for? I don't know, I don't even know if this even makes sense.... I'm just worried. April is a defining moment for us all and I'm worried this could all go horribly wrong....

Modifié par xHezz90, 23 mars 2012 - 07:55 .

[redfield2]

Korean Fleet reporting in.
It seems like something big happened..? I just looked over posts for a while and ...um???
What's going on? Something's gone wrong?

[Lord Costantino]

XJ347 wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...
Agreed, had a rage moment earlier because of just how poorly this is whole ending is being handled  But the official word is going to be April, need to stay positive till then 

Yep must be patient until April, then we get to know if this movement picks up the heat or will joyfully celebrate our new endings.

Yeah, just so disappointing because of how ME3 ended made me panic about what was going to happen to DA3. I loved DA:O then when DA2 came out, it make me worry for DA3. Now with ME3 ending the way it did it just depressing because I love DA.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

RagingCeltik wrote...

I never did get why I was being forced into renegade interrupts.   Up 'til that point I was 100% paragon.   It seemed odd to me that I was being forced to betray my "alignment", and weird that shoot TIM to save Anderson is a renegade option especially when no other is given.

Yeah it annoys me a bit, I always stick with Paragon choices (yes I know that may be boring) because that's just the type of person I am, I don't like being mean...not even to fictional pixels lol.

[Lord Costantino]

redfield2 wrote...

Korean Fleet reporting in.
It seems like something big happened..? I just looked over posts for a while and ...um???
What's going on? Something's gone wrong?

Nothing horrible just one of those nights where is rage...mainly me. My B need to get back on track.

[Alikan]

xHezz90 wrote...

Anyone else worried about the official announcement in April? I'm worried, if we don't get what this series deserves and what we were promised as customers that this thread, and all of us who have been very civil and respectful are going to go off the deep end and have massive rage-athons (yes I know this isn't a word) pitchforks and all. If we don't get what we have been asking for, and only get a slap dab bandage, sure we can stop buying Bioware and even EA products, sure we can sell our games or trade them in, but isn't that kind of against what we are fighting for? I don't know, I don't even know if this even makes sense.... I'm just worried. April is a defining moment for us all and I'm worried this could all go horribly wrong....

To be honest i am not really hopefull but sticking around until PAX. After that i will either still be a Bioware customer or not "shrug". Not much else to do in this situation.

[Bob3terd]

xHezz90 wrote...

Anyone else worried about the official announcement in April? I'm worried, if we don't get what this series deserves and what we were promised as customers that this thread, and all of us who have been very civil and respectful are going to go off the deep end and have massive rage-athons (yes I know this isn't a word) pitchforks and all. If we don't get what we have been asking for, and only get a slap dab bandage, sure we can stop buying Bioware and even EA products, sure we can sell our games or trade them in, but isn't that kind of against what we are fighting for? I don't know, I don't even know if this even makes sense.... I'm just worried. April is a defining moment for us all and I'm worried this could all go horribly wrong....

I think there will be a lot of that unfortunatly, on my part ill just pack my bags and move on. Bioware if u choose "artistic" statement over player satisfaction then we have got to part ways.