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[AdmiralCheez]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Why do non-japanese people love japanese words so much? I don't get it. I'm only half white and my entire japanese side of the family doesn't do any of this. Even the ones who watch anime. 

Edited for maybe racist terms.

Stupid nerd pop culture, that's why.

[RazorrX]

Elegana wrote...

The Asari wrote...

In arrival dlc when the relay gets destroyed the entire system goes with it, but when we blow them up now they only destroy them selves? im having some trouble understanding this. can someone explain ?

Space Magic.

My guess is that they will say that since you sent the powerful pulse out of it to take out the system, the local explosion was diminished enough for the system to survive.  So in theory, the last one to blow took out everything around it.

[Renatka82]

Acrylium wrote...

LMAO so true!

[Johnnycide]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

By "skimped out" you mean bad writing? Because if you think that people are only upset due to the fact that their Shepard cannot get reunited with their space waifu, I would disagree with you.

Again, "the endings don't line up with what I had planned in my headcanon" =/= "bad writing."

Now, what is your complaint, precisely?  Personally, I think the Normandy thing was uncessecary, but I think it's intended to be a metaphor for starting over, heading into an unknown future, being forced to rebuild from next to nothing.  A not-so-spectacularly executed metaphor, but one nonetheless.

I'd say skimped out because the so called "thousands of variable" which they claimed would make each game a unique story, in actuality have no bearing on the endings. Every choice you made boils down to a choose from 3 colors then we'll give you either a good or bad version of that color. Literally plagarized from Deus Ex, no originality.

[Rdubs]

ratzerman wrote...

Still looking for a reason for all of this. What was Bioware's motivation?

And it can't be that they're sick of Mass Effect. EA wouldn't let them nuke such a high profile IP. There's something happening behind the scenes that we can't grasp right now. There's a method to this madness. There has to be.

You are correct.  It's called, setting the stage for the follow-on MMORPG. 
If they let ME3 end with a wide variety of endings, it would be rather hard to come up with a follow-on which took all of those into consideration plausibly.  Instead at some point they switched from making ME3 awesome in its own right to putting their eyes on the next prize after ME3, and turned ME3 into a bridge to set the stage for it.

That, plus I think there's validity to the whole "we got in way over our heads and couldn't deliver, so we decided to go dramatic and hope people confuse it with art" suspicion.

[mulder1199]

Risselda wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Risselda wrote...

Just to reiterate....bioware already stated there will be no post-game dlc. the end is the end. so unless they really try to make us pay for an alternative ending....which is where I draw the line, this is what we get.

The only loophole I see is possibly with the prothean dlc...that might alter the ending. maybe

And that would mean you'd still have to buy DLC for an alternative ending.

But you would be getting quest/squad content along with that...thats ok with me.
Im talking about paying for just an ending/ minimal content

just give me a patch with an ending that sucks a little bit less and i'll be fine....

[HiroVoid]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Why do non-japanese people love japanese words so much? I don't get it. I'm only half white and my entire japanese side of the family doesn't do any of this. Even the ones who watch anime. 

Edited for maybe racist terms.

Stupid nerd pop culture, that's why.

Well, I remember random english words being included in Japanese songs before.  I suppose it could be the same context.

[webhead921]

Oh well. Can't bang my space wife. Oh wait a minute, I have a wife in real life (stops caring)

[Black_Vanguard]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

Toally unrelated...why is it so popular to write out japanese pronounciation of english terms for husband and wife? Did I miss something?

It's an otaku/obsessive anime fan/weeaboo joke.

Waifu/husbando implies someone is a little too much in love/obsessed with a character.

I call Garrus my space husbando all the time to lampoon my own fangirlism.

Why do non-japanese people love japanese words so much? I don't get it. I'm only half white and my entire japanese side of the family doesn't do any of this. Even the ones who watch anime. 

Edited for maybe racist terms. 

Its a white people thing...Accept it 

[HeroicRedZero001]

HiroVoid wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

By "skimped out" you mean bad writing? Because if you think that people are only upset due to the fact that their Shepard cannot get reunited with their space waifu, I would disagree with you.

Again, "the endings don't line up with what I had planned in my headcanon" =/= "bad writing."

Now, what is your complaint, precisely?  Personally, I think the Normandy thing was uncessecary, but I think it's intended to be a metaphor for starting over, heading into an unknown future, being forced to rebuild from next to nothing.  A not-so-spectacularly executed metaphor, but one nonetheless.

Story's all about how it's executed.  If it's not executed well, it sucks.

How do you know about how it's executed if all we have is some audio-less video and some impressions from other people? 

Context matters. I'm certainly not claiming this is some masterstroke of writing on BioWare's part, but I think you people should give it some time before you jump to any conclusions.

Modifié par HeroicRedZero001, 01 mars 2012 - 05:34 .

[JJDrakken]

What it comes down too, I bet 90% everyone here can deal with the galaxy burning around them, reapers dead, all hell broke loose, etc... So long The Crew, LI, & Shepard are still together. That's what it comes down too.

Sure many are going go out their way to try save as much of the galaxy they can, but they'll even do more extra steps to make sure all their buddies, the ship, & everyone on it are still their with them, it's human nature. We interact & are effected by those we are around the most, thus bond is formed.

What Bioware seems to be doing is saying, you know what, all that effort, work, & bonding you did, yah we're just going take that away from you, because we can.


JJ

Modifié par JJDrakken, 01 mars 2012 - 05:34 .

[CrazyRah]

Acrylium wrote...

Haha

This image is probably the best thing i've seen since the endings got leaked

[Nerevar-as]

eye basher wrote...

So the yeast here is that the game sucks cause i couldn't bang my space wifey at the end i'm gonna say it again most people think Mass Effect is just a dating simulator apparently. I guess they should've called it the Dating Effect insted.

It´s more the lack of something we can call a happy ending (as much as trillions of deaths allow the use of that term), and the complete nonsense of the stranded Normandy part, both in concept and execution. Unless we have some late surprise, clearly nobody gave a second thought to that part. So I call that bad writing.

[mopotter]

Abram730 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Chief Savage Man wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Dragon Age 2 had endings people wanted. 

You must have played a different game.

No, I didn't. Unlike ME3 where your LI is either dead, back on earth (with no romance if you choose the VS as an LI), or stranded in bufu-Egypt. In Dragon Age 2, you can ride off into the sunset with Anders despite the result of the war. What people want with ME3 is the same thing: Death and destruction, but at the end of the day, have Shepard be with his/her crew and LI whether the Normandy crashes on Earth or Shepard ends up with the crew on the other planet. 

That is almost every game and movie ever made.. Do you eat the same meal every night too?

Actually when i was single, I had taco bell 4 out of 7 nights.  So Yes.  And we are talking about one ending out of what 4, 5?  That's not having the same thing, that is having a variety, which we may not have in ME3.

[Fafner_Ni]

Rdubs wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Still looking for a reason for all of this. What was Bioware's motivation?

And it can't be that they're sick of Mass Effect. EA wouldn't let them nuke such a high profile IP. There's something happening behind the scenes that we can't grasp right now. There's a method to this madness. There has to be.

You are correct.  It's called, setting the stage for the follow-on MMORPG. 
If they let ME3 end with a wide variety of endings, it would be rather hard to come up with a follow-on which took all of those into consideration plausibly.  Instead at some point they switched from making ME3 awesome in its own right to putting their eyes on the next prize after ME3, and turned ME3 into a bridge to set the stage for it.

That, plus I think there's validity to the whole "we got in way over our heads and couldn't deliver, so we decided to go dramatic and hope people confuse it with art" suspicion.

Thing about the MMO is that there might not be any Geth. Also I doubt there will be many Turians/Qurians, because they'll be cut off from dextro food supplies and the Quarian Fleet can only produce so much. I'm having a hard time figuring out how it'd work.

[Harvoification]

Yep, it's all real, folks. There's videos on YouTube.

[mopotter]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

You guys are all a bunch of babies.

No most of us are adults, who work hard for the money we use to purchase video games that are enjoyable.  I don't plan on spending $60 - 70 on the next BioWare game if it's going to be depressing.  ME 3 will be the line in the sand that stops future pre order purchases.  Their choice in what they do, my choice in what i buy.

[albertalad]

JJDrakken wrote...

What it comes down too, I bet 90% everyone here can deal with the galaxy burning around them, reapers dead, all hell broke loose, etc... So long The Crew, LI, & Shepard are still together. That's what it comes down too.

Sure many are going go out their way to try save as much of the galaxy they can, but they'll even do more extra steps to make sure all their buddies, the ship, & everyone on it are still their with them, it's human nature. We interact & are effected by those we are around the most, thus bond is formed.

What Bioware seems to be doing is saying, you know what, all that effort, work, & bonding you did, yah we're just going take that away from you, because we can.


JJ

You are absolutely correct - BW seems to talk the talk about our choices matter - but in the end can't walk the walk. BW made a silly ending. If, for instance, it was the reat of the Galaxy that really mattered most then merely blow the earth relay destroying Reaper and Earth while leaving the rest of the relays inactl - that Galaxy and its inhabitants would flouris as would humans in the colonies.

However, what matters to those of us who spent all the time, effort, and money on BW building connections and crews - they came up with the very worst senarios passible. That just makes no sense what so ever.

[Jacy Pane]

Did I miss anything interesting? I read something about ending charts, but couldn't find them.

[Harvoification]

WARNING MAJOR SPOILERS: - BioWare trolled us. Look at the other vids from the user. Leaks are real. Not sure if I'll be banned for this or not but the community needs to see this utter crap.

Oh, and Bioware/EA, this is what happens when you release copies of the game before the official release date. You have brought this upon yourselves.

And thanks for ruining what would have been one of the best trilogies of all time.

[humes spork]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

So the sick stuff, classy.

Hey don't get on my case about it for calling the devs out. They're the ones who went on...and on...and on...in-game and in the codex about how god awful in utero eezo exposure is, then wrote a catastrophe into the plot in which a global-scale eezo exposure is actually near the bottom of the list of unfortunate implications. Seriously, you don't have to have read Silent Spring and be a card-carrying NRDC member to reason out even in the "earth OK" endings the survivors are going to end up dealing with an environmental disaster of unprecedented proportions, especially considering the fact the Mass Effect universe actually runs on nuclear power.

[Abram730]

Capeo wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

A 200GB 5 hour game would be quite a corner, due to plot branching.  This is a clean slate with a wonderful galaxy to return to.

Well, since the mass relays are destroyed, it's like having a hacking game and in the end destroying the internet. You might go into smaller hacking stuff, but it won't be the same.

Only some of the mass relays were on.. no sol relay anymore for example... but what about the systems that were never visited? We visited relays that were activated.. Why do you think the relays were so important to leave around? It's the facebook of who to kill.. Our galaxy has 200–400 billion star systems.. think they are going to check every system? How many relays were on? All we have to do is start looking. How many times did you go from one system with a relay to another system without one?

The end videos show the magic green/blue/red energy ping ponging across the entire galaxy from relay to relay wiping them all out.  It doesn't seem like them being "on" per se matters much.

No I don't mean on as in being used.. I mean where are the other millions of relays... You couldn't explore 200–400 billion star systems.. I argue that the only relays "on" and working are ones that were found and jumped to on the way to the Citadel.. Only species that evolve into space and interact with the relay will turn one "on" and that is how you can be targeted for extermination...   We followed the path they wanted.  If all road lead to the Citadel, the  Citadel
leads to all.  Why not use the relay network?  Why would we go and expend all the energy required to go explore other systems?  We needed 3 planets and went ape shh grabbing much more.. doing simple colonies rather then full scale development.. that was a big complaint about humans in the game.. How many relays were "found"?

Remember there are 200–400 billion star systems... That is way too many for reapers to invade, yet life could pop up on any of them... yet if they knew exactly where advanced life was and knew they would bump into a relay they built... well problem of galactic size solved...  You wouldn't open up new worlds for them, not on a path to the Citadel.. Those relays are "off" and not connected to the network.. they are not destroyed.

Yet I doubt it's too far for us to find another relay and new lane to the Citadel.. It just complicates SOL without moving or building another.. a more costly link for earth and every other species we encountered... what if a new species discovers one?

[Johnnycide]

humes spork wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

So the sick stuff, classy.

Hey don't get on my case about it for calling the devs out. They're the ones who went on...and on...and on...in-game and in the codex about how god awful in utero eezo exposure is, then wrote a catastrophe into the plot in which a global-scale eezo exposure is actually near the bottom of the list of unfortunate implications. Seriously, you don't have to have read Silent Spring and be a card-carrying NRDC member to reason out even in the "earth OK" endings the survivors are going to end up dealing with an environmental disaster of unprecedented proportions, especially considering the fact the Mass Effect universe actually runs on nuclear power.

Maybe the writers got off on what happened to Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Chernobyl?