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[Nex_Legis]

That's ridiculous. We will bring this to an end when the time has come and we've reached our aims up to a certain degree. Until then, HOLD THE LINE.

[Iucounou]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

Eh, still trying to say we won... haven't won anything until we have satisfactory endings on our computers, xboxes or PS3s.  Just my opinion.

HOLD THE LINE!

PR Double-speak. They (Bioware) announce they are looking into giving more closure, then they contact the media about it, maybe spin it a little more optimistically. The media outlets run with it. The uninitiated believe its all over. When we continue to speak out against the ending, it just looks like we are being petty and bloody-minded. Our image, as a result, suffers.

Even I can see what's going on there.

[XTiferethX]

deregen wrote...

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

My reply to this obvious, and poorly constructed attempt to diffuse:

No, no, no... WRONG! No one is winding down the effort. It is unfortunate that Child's Play is no longer accepting donations from Retake Mass Effect. However, their position is understandable.

And the statement by Mr. Muzyka is not being taken at face value. Make no mistake; until an official statement is made clearly declaring one way or another what the intentions of Bioware are, there will be no winding down. If anything, his statement only added fuel to the fire.

We will continue to press on.

We will hold the line!

will keep holding the line.

[MysticBinary82]

Darth Taurus wrote...

Let's more noise people.
Let's show them we are alive and fighting!

Hold the Line People!

That is not an easy call.

[wicked_being]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

Eh, still trying to say we won... haven't won anything until we have satisfactory endings on our computers, xboxes or PS3s.  Just my opinion.

HOLD THE LINE!

Oh I see what they're trying to do. I won't be surprised if several other sites would claim we've ended our protest as well. When we start making noise again they can then claim that "even with the concessions by BW, these entitled brats still can't be appeased." <_<

[bluewolv1970]

keep holding...

[chrrue_]

Plummy wrote...
Really? Did i totally miss something in like the last 5 minutes............ or has someone else been struck by the stoopid bat?

that's just the way a lot of media work. Someone writes something. All the other pages want to be up to date, so they just take the news without questioning it.
When it get's clear, they were wrong, they paddle back with a statement, but most people already have made up their mind about the subject

Modifié par chrrue_, 23 mars 2012 - 04:15 .

[nitefyre410]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

Eh, still trying to say we won... haven't won anything until we have satisfactory endings on our computers, xboxes or PS3s.  Just my opinion.

HOLD THE LINE!

 

Just to lighten the mood... I  did my own ending   but no we have not won yet but we will win.. 

  

My ending  for them plays to this Marching On by One Republic    


Its starts with a shot of their house but a pans out to see many  Quarians and Geth building something bigger.   The Alliance to better train its future soliders expanded Grissom Acdemy... now other students will study  and train off world  the other various races.  On the Rannoch Shepard, Tali and Garrus are going to run the site for  Engineering and field training... Rannoch as  nice rugged terrain for it.   We see David Archer and other students  talking with a Geth and Quarian Engineers,  Jack and her new class of students land ina  shuttle with  Nathaniel Shepard and Garrus waiting to take them out in the field.. Tail comes out  two young children one quarian and one human both orphans of the war.   Tali comes up behind  him draps herself over his shoulder  as Jack walks up making a comment about those  two. While the two  children  excited say.. "Aunty Jack" .  Garrus makes a comment about  the kids calling her "Aunty" Jack is about to give him ear full but Tali give that stern look of"Not infront of kids or else..."   

Shepard chuckles  with a soft smile leaving a small kiss on  forehead. Tali still has to wear a breathing mask but not a full helmet all the time   she is still wearing her hood.   Garrus mandibles twitch looking at the new crop of students to which he comments  "lets teach rookies how  we did in our day.."   Shepard laughs and tells they're no that old yeah.  As Jack, Shepard and Garrus gather supplies before heading out.    Adrimal Hackett walks comes out of th building behind  Tali,  picking up on of  the young  orphans.   He tells "That he thought he never see the day where Nathaniel would settle down."    Tali tells he should he deserves it, he changed the  Galaxy to which  Hackett repleis "Only because you changed him, you showed what he could be, you gave him something to fight for and never sell yourself short on that... now I believe some of your students need you."   he points over David Archer and one of the  Quarian Engineers working on something.  Tali smiles, understanding what he means and heads over to assist.     

The Screen closes out with Tali voice ove: " When  I started my  Pilgrimage ,  Home was not place,  it was just a dream, distant memory  of place I have never seen.  I did not understand  then but now I do., a home is not just a planet or a house..its  something  more... is place were build your future. Its not just rock, steel, and woods.   Its friendship, hope and most of love...I get it now.  We have lost some much because this war,  so much we can't regain.   When Legion told that the Geth "Seek to be build there own future free of the Old Machines.", the Reapers.  I could not really understand it  was saying.  Now, I think  I do -   The Reapers represent more than cycle of exstinction. They represent the cycle of  hate and old wars - but we free of that now... free to build our own future what ever it may be.   It will be ours to build and to discover."   

Pan out to  showing  planet and the galaxy..  Credits rolll showing stills of the Different races rebuilding together and of  crew celebrating and going  to various memorials for the fallen(mainly Anderson.)   Credits end.. a big  splash page of a artist rendition of the entire cast from ME 1, 2, and 3  with The End. 

Thats is my ending.     



This fight is far from over.

[Siegdrifa]

chujwamdotego wrote...

"Different, memorable endings" they said.

"Choices matter and reflect in endings" they said.

"Not true" we said.

"Art" they say.

"Art" is not an ultimat shield answer to justify your opinion without giving argument to back your claim.
if the claim "choices matter and reflect in the ending" they could justify it without "art" excuses.

[RedBananaBoat]

wicked_being wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

Eh, still trying to say we won... haven't won anything until we have satisfactory endings on our computers, xboxes or PS3s.  Just my opinion.

HOLD THE LINE!

Oh I see what they're trying to do. I won't be surprised if several other sites would claim we've ended our protest as well. When we start making noise again they can then claim that "even with the concessions by BW, these entitled brats still can't be appeased." <_<

They probably will 

[SpaRR]

lol, this. And I figure they're just trying to discredit and destroy the movement.

Indeed , we have to make a counter-attack i think.

Modifié par SpaRR, 23 mars 2012 - 04:14 .

[Mr Chr15topher]

MysticBinary82 wrote...

LadyMarisa wrote...

I know this is kind of off topic so I hope you'll forgive me as I'm not trying to derail the thread. I've seen several posts (not all of them recent) where people who did not like the ending of ME 3 also did not like DA:2.

Am I the only one that liked that game?

No, I liked DA2 too. The end was not super brilliant but it fit the story

I also liked it. My only complaint is with the copy/paste dungeons. Though I can see where people are coming from with their dislike to the game.

[nitefyre410]

deregen wrote...

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

My reply to this obvious, and poorly constructed attempt to diffuse:

No, no, no... WRONG! No one is winding down the effort. It is unfortunate that Child's Play is no longer accepting donations from Retake Mass Effect. However, their position is understandable.

And the statement by Mr. Muzyka is not being taken at face value. Make no mistake; until an official statement is made clearly declaring one way or another what the intentions of Bioware are, there will be no winding down. If anything, his statement only added fuel to the fire.

We will continue to press on.

We will hold the line!
 

 

Yeah I left a comment letting  the author  know that  their facts are a little messed up... and they could check them the next time when the write a pieace... and to  have a nice day as well. 

[deregen]

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

Retake Mass Effect 3 response on their Facebook page:

Who's ready for an organized effort? This article: http://games.ign.com.../1221457p1.html


Is spreading A LOT of misinformation about the Retake movement. While
Robb was one of the individuals who set up the Child's Play fundraiser he is NOT a spokesperson for the Retake movement as a whole, and never asked to become one.


The charity campaign did NOT "wind down" it reached its preset goal of
$80,000, ended, and the directors of Child's Play asked us to end the
charity because they were getting bad publicity from it.

Also
the Retake movement is NOT claiming victory. Until we have an ending
worthy of the Mass Effect series we will not have victory.

I am asking everyone here to please go it IGN and make sure that the article they have written is ENTIRELY INACCURATE.

Please do so in a polite and respectful way.

[Cybermortis]

LadyMarisa wrote...

I saw this after I had responded to the other poster.
I won't touch the badly written comment as I hate to get into debates over opinions. I don't claim the game was perfect but that's not why I was curious.

I was not aware the game had been rushed, as I said about the only thing i followed was the release date at the time I can understand the comparisons being based on a concept of time rather than content opinion (if that makes any sense).  I didn't realize the bugs were as big an issue as they were, I didn't have problems playing DA:2 myself (unlike the horrific experience I had with Awakenings). AWhether or not I agree, I get it a little better now Thanks.

Some of the consoles had such serious bugs players were unable to finish the game. There was also a problem with the autoattack feature on the consoles, there was a screw up (which much to their credit Bioware admitted to) where they sent off the wrong master copy that had the autoattack feature disabled for console players.

Things were made worse because there were so many bugs it took them something like two weeks to make a patch, and I think another two weeks before they were available for consoles. (In fairness to Bioware the longer wait for the console patches was due to Microsoft/Sony having to pass the patches before they became available, and therefore not Bioware's fault). The wait for the patch also caused problems because, in what I thing Bioware would probably admit was not one of their brighter moments, they told everyone to wait for a statement on something - which understandably everyone thought was the patch - only for that statement to be about a newly available appearance DLC.

*Muses* It seems that Bioware have, at least, learnt from that error and officially announced any DLC before dealing with what the fans see as a more important issue - the ending.

[The Big Palooka]

KiganMatsuei wrote...

What is going on lately? Why does everyone think we are ending this campaign because of some vague statements that don't amount to any kind of victory?

And on top of that, they are claiming that gamers now want their money back from the charity. Since when?

This thread is still growing rapidly - I don't see that as any sign of slowing down.

People think the campaign is over because the charity drive ended.  Well, that and the fact that a lot of the media reported Dr. Ray's statements as being an announcement that the endings were being changed.  A lot of us obviously aren't 100% comfortable with accepting that until we know what sort of changes Bioware has in mind (i.e., whether they're talking about additional endings/options or merely adding scenes to the existing ones without 'changing' anything).

It doesn't matter what the media says though, they've been inaccurate in the past.  So long as we know what we're about, we're still on track.

Modifié par The Big Palooka, 23 mars 2012 - 04:17 .

[Ossborn76]

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

Hmmm..... this article is bullsh[beep]

... and opening that link makes my anti virus scanner go rampage.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Atrocity wrote...



Yeah, I get you as well, the examples are mostly from tv-shows, and game is another thing entirely, and if, IF this was a planned move, it would (At least I hope it would) be handled quite differently. There are plenty of examples using social media, tweets and such to create an atmosphere where the fans/consumers feels like they are interactively engaged, BUT not genuinely 'fighting' to get what they deserve.

Apparently something like that went on with the new Sherlock Holmes series, I don't know, I have never watched it, but that's what a friend of mine keeps bringing up when I rant about our ending and Bioware's/EA's responses and so on.

Lol, I think they are talking about the original campaign to bring sherlock holmes back after he was killed of by Sir Arthur C.D, so he could concentrate on other projects, thats ancient history now.

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Polls
Poll About Your reaction on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?

Provide Bioware with your feedback
Leave your feedback on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement from 21st March 2012
Official ME3 Suggested Changes Feedback Thread

Bioware's Promises pre-game release and their PR response analysed
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***

Retake Mass Effect Movement Resources
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Mission Statement Thread
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Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics

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Latest News
Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement on 21st March 2012
***Attention*** Mass Effect Survey Scam
Forbes, New Ending Setting Precedence?
GotGame, The customer is always right.
NY Daily News about Retake Mass Effect
The Telegraph in UK reporting about our movement
Forbes on indoctrination theory
Forbes reports on Dr. Ray Muzyka's statement
CVG, Mass Effect 3: 86% think BioWare blew the ending
BBC news technology section
Forbes, Why Child's Play Stopped Taking Donations From Retake Mass Effect
Forbes, Further Thoughts on Mass Effect 3's Ending and Future DLC

[DRAGONFIRE50000000]

did someone read this it's in dutch
http://tweakers.net/...-aanpassen.html

[Feraiin]

So far, we have NOTHING concrete. What we have is:

A) Multiple statements from BioWare, Casey and Muzyka, that they are very aware of what is going on and that they're going through the feedback. Good. That's a start, but it's the same announcement over and over. Until April, it seems, that won't change either.

The knowledge that DLC is coming. I did not need a statement at all to figure that out. I have pretty much all the DLC from ME2 and I yes, that was costly, but it was worth it, for me at least.
If the DLC was so successful in ME2, you can bet your collective behinds there will be DLC for ME3, so that is not news.

They say it'll bring closure, but it is all vague. Until I see an official post on FB or here, saying "DLC "NameXYZ" is underway, experience the aftermath of the final battle/see what's next/finish your playthrough in a new way", the line will be held.

[nitefyre410]

deregen wrote...

*snip* 

Who's ready for an organized effort? This article: http://games.ign.com.../1221457p1.html


Is spreading A LOT of misinformation about the Retake movement. While
Robb was one of the individuals who set up the Child's Play fundraiser he is NOT a spokesperson for the Retake movement as a whole, and never asked to become one.


The charity campaign did NOT "wind down" it reached its preset goal of
$80,000, ended, and the directors of Child's Play asked us to end the
charity because they were getting bad publicity from it.

Also
the Retake movement is NOT claiming victory. Until we have an ending
worthy of the Mass Effect series we will not have victory.

I am asking everyone here to please go it IGN and make sure that the article they have written is ENTIRELY INACCURATE.

Please do so in a polite and respectful way.

 


Okay, Ign needs to stop out right lying... like really. There is a difference between have a different opinion and just plain smear. 

[Elanor]

Plummy wrote...

chmarr wrote...

WHAT THE F**K?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a372766/mass-effect-3-campaigners-claim-victory-end-protest.html

*Facepalm's*

Really? Did i totally miss something in like the last 5 minutes............ or has someone else been struck by the stoopid bat?

You got to be kidding me... We're still holding the line!

[MystaisPC]

Maybe we can just blow up the citadel. After all the god-child is part of the citadel and he controls the reapers right? Hehe... lose citadel but keep relays... god-child and reapers gone, I win.

[Iucounou]

Right folks, off for a bit. Stay strong.

Some information and humour to help people cope. I've added a few new ones. If you can think of more, post them and I'll

include them in this list and re-post every once in a while.

Reviews:

Gamefront's 5 reasons the fans are right
http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/
Angry Joe's top 10 reasons to hate the ME3 ending

ME3 endings comparison

Jeremy Jahns ending review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4
Archengeia's thoughts on the ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUqAhKW7498&feature=youtu.be
The California Literary Review
http://calitreview.com/24673
Forbes' Myth of Entitlement
http://www.forbes.co...er-entitlement/
The Mary Sue review
http://www.themarysu...poiler-free-as-

possible/
BBC Technology News article
http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719

Podcasts:

The Paranoid Gamer (Lions and Tigers and Bioware, Oh my!)
http://theparanoidga...-bioware-oh-my/
Spill.com (Ending spoiler review)
http://my.spill.com/...logPost:5224387
Rescue the Princess' Ending podcast (bad language!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEMvtfQ3R-Q

Inspirational stuff:

The Commander Shepard song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiRDJLcYua0
The Hold the Line video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspE9ctseIU
Commander Shepard is still a jerk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4
Mass Effect - In the End
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCddYcOGYUg&feature=related
MAss Effect Rap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC6S4ZE0FKo


Satire and Parody:

ME3 Recontextualised
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWIimukNeAE
Mass Deffect 7 Shepard's Reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYLTbQQEZQ&feature=related
The Animal House ending (extended cut!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG4EyfXOTJ4
Mass Deffect Monster Reaper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyoev5RzO_w
Japanime ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAmVVAjZZeM
Marauder Shields - He gave his life trying to save us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNoIwHychkY&feature=youtu.be
Marauder Shields comic strip
http://koobismo.devi...rt.com/gallery/
ME3 Ending...in a nutshell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFTwRs__acE
ME3 - The Controversial Ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKbSP4tABT4&feature=related
LITERAL Mass Effect 3 Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpj3dy9ALQ0&feature=g-vrec&context=G2b324b2RVAAAAAAAAAQ
The 2d Mass Effect Ending paody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0kAfzKA8I

Twitter:

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https://twitter.com/#!/HarbyTheReaper

Images and Pictures:

VGCats #300
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What it should have said on the box
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What the kittens think of it all
http://i14.photobuck...s/ME3Boldly.jpg
Marauder Shields
http://koobismo.devi...allery:koobismo

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