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[Cybermortis]

*Shrugs*

At this point I'm going to wait and see without committing myself one way or another, and keep my expectations low. If we get nothing Bioware gets my personal boycott for life, along with their master EA. The same applies if it is or is part of a paid DLC.

If it is a free DLC I'll probably download it to see what its like...but if we end up with the DLC version of a post-it note or one fingered salute....

[Zwei133]

Joe vas Normandy wrote...

Before seeing ME3 ending, I was planning to purchase the last two books that came out based in the mass effect universe.Did they ever "fix" the last book or is that part of their "artistic integrity" too?

I believe they plan to release a new edition with fixes/changes to address the issues.  But I could be wrong.

[Bionic Weapon]

mulder1199 wrote...

worst part about it....they are probably sitting there going....hmmm if we just patch in shep telling sombody to gather the crew and retreat....

*rubs temples*

You know.. That really would say something wouldn't it? To just give up like that and call it a day.  I would shut off my 360 and just... walk away. They are smarter than that their track record proves it. I refuse to believe that they made every other aspect of the game amazing, only to look at the ending and say "Eh, good enough SHIP IT"!!!


No no no'! those minds at Bioware are very creative, and a comm call from Shep saying retreat?? Please Joker would most likely shut the comm off and head towards Shepard at full speed. 

What you said made me angry. Not you yourself, but just the thougt of that actually happening made me angry.
Whoo. To care so much about a game... Man we are a dedicated bunch, and thats a good thing though since all we want is for Biowrae to do what they do best. Make fantastic games we invest in, care about, and want to succeed.

They can't expect us to expect anything less from them.  


So Bioware do what you do best. It's all we ask of you.

[laughing sherpa girl]

Cybermortis wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

I'm watching the Q/A - and its going actually really well - haven't seen any really stupid questions or not; its just ended they brought some very interesting things to light. Will ending up twittering my question to them as it got lost.

Is there a way for the rest of us to access this??

Its on Facebook, so the chat is still up to read.

Its Forbes Games on there as I recall.

Much apprecited.. Sadly, i wasnt able to locate it..

[Silasqtx]

Am I wrong or IGN is "kinda" supporting the retakeme3 movement? They personally boycott it, but on the same time they say that the endings are weak and full of plotholes.

*scratches head*

spoilercast here 
http://uk.ign.com/vi...t-3-spoilercast 

Modifié par Silasqtx, 23 mars 2012 - 07:19 .

[DJBare]

 Just received this link via PM, remember keep it civil and hold the line
twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/183233534146781186

[MeldarthX]

BW I understand completely.....

I've been listening to this over and over......vocals are so haunting - she really is an amazing artist....

[RussianOrc]

allyon wrote...

I am weary of this whole April thing. If they release a DLC good for them I wont buy it though. My trust is so shattered with this company. I wont be buying anything, until I see it examined and poked at by groups of "intelligent" people. If they release fix I will come here1st and then decide. I had posted before how upset I was that I pre-ordered. This is only time I had ever done so. To get burned so bad the one time I do it. Heck I still have not "finished" the game.

Couldn't have said better myself.If or when they release an ending dlc i will first wait for someone to finish it before i try.

[Cybermortis]

Yeah...'clarify'...'add closure'...Translation; Same ending with some post-it notes stuck to the screen.

Goodbye Bioware...My custom is about to move to other companies.

Modifié par Cybermortis, 23 mars 2012 - 07:22 .

[BigglesFlysAgain]

DJBare wrote...

 Just received this link via PM, remember keep it civil and hold the line
twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/183233534146781186

Well you can argue that all the post endgame dlc for mass effect 2 did not change the endings, so either we have semantic differences or they are screwing us with a bit of cut dialogue

[BlackDevil06]

DJBare wrote...

 Just received this link via PM, remember keep it civil and hold the line
twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/183233534146781186

If that's the case, well then no money from me. Why on earth would I need closure to an ending that makes no sense and negates almost all of my choices through three games?

//Edit: Plenty of other good games out there. Y'know, Skyrim never really gets old.

Modifié par BlackDevil06, 23 mars 2012 - 07:24 .

[Ameno Xiel]

Well, thanks for the answers.
You all make some good points, so for the moment I will hold the line.

But mark my words: potential backlash and money loss didn't stop them from doing things like the Day-One-DLC, Origin requirement, the no ME1 face import and the crappy endings. 

[ShinAnubisXIII]

Cybermortis wrote...

Yeah...'clarify'...'add closure'...Translation; Same ending with some post-it notes stuck to the screen.

Goodbye Bioware...My custom is about to move to other companies.

I kinda expect this... Well, if Bioware doesn't want my money in the future, I happily spend it elsewhere <_<

[Cybermortis]

 *Sighs* OH Bioware...

Cyber signing off for the night to preserve sanity. Hell I may even take a day or two off.

[chujwamdotego]

DJBare wrote...

 Just received this link via PM, remember keep it civil and hold the line
twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/183233534146781186

Another PR double - talk.

adding closure may mean - adding new endings as well

[DJBare]

I'd like to remind people reading that twitter not to expect any other answer, you don't just chuck an ending change together in a couple of days and have the details to tell folk, it's basically a stock answer.

[Darth Garrus]

DJBare wrote...

 Just received this link via PM, remember keep it civil and hold the line
twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/183233534146781186

Well, if that means just an "explanation" with "what happened to the characters" dlc, it could very well be another good example of a straw-man. They can say: "well, wasn't that what you wanted?". And then say "well, some people are never satisfied". But noooooo. That was not what we want. We want better endings, that, by themselves, will give better explanation.

[TSC_1]

DJBare wrote...

 Just received this link via PM, remember keep it civil and hold the line
twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/183233534146781186

Welp. That's utterly unacceptable. And if Bioware thinks otherwise, they obviously haven't been listening to us. It's insulting.

[Phoenix NL]

Goodnight Cybermortis - don't lost all hope yet! *offers fresly baked brownie*

[Rdubs]

DJBare wrote...

 Just received this link via PM, remember keep it civil and hold the line
twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/183233534146781186

Well, there you have it.  "Clarify and add closure."  In other words, double down on the current ending.  That is NOT why people hate the endings.  Either they don't get why people are pissed, or they do but can't bring themselves to admit the ending sucks so they're trying to plug some of the plot holes they didn't notice until fans pointed them out.

Prepare for disaster.  

[Richard 060]

I'll say it again:

If you order a cup of coffee, and the barista serves it with pondweed in it, and you complain...

...is it an 'adequate' resolution if the barista apologises by offering you an extra helping of pondweed?

[KaiserinKai]

sumo390 wrote...

Benathorn wrote...

Forbes is doing an excellent job at answering and giving honest opinions. Heres a quote from Erik which gives his views on the subject:

.................................................................................................................................................

Erik Kain: "There have been a few questions on what our opinion of the Retake movement is and why we're taking it seriously. I think the Retake movement is a great example of grassroots customer dissatisfaction in the age of social media. I also think that any business should take complaints from customers seriously, and that it's simply bizarre for developers (or media) to write paying customers off as "entitled." This is especially true when the outcry is obviously not just a tiny vocal minority as some in the gaming press have argued. From a purely pragmatic stance, treating your customers as though they ought to just shut up and like anything you give them is extremely short-sighted and only works in very non-competitive industries like health insurance. Game developers do not have a captive audience and shouldn't act as though they do, for their own sake if nothing else."

That is a great quote, Erik has done a wonderful job sticking to his guns while surrounded by "gaming sites" who aren't looking at the whole picture

Amen to that. It feels like Bioware is taking it's customers for granted. That is something no business should do, especially one in an industry like gaming where people can just go take their money elsewhere

...Which is indeed what I will do if they don't fix this in a satasfactory manner.

[Phoenix NL]

TSC_1 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

 Just received this link via PM, remember keep it civil and hold the line
twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/183233534146781186

Welp. That's utterly unacceptable. And if Bioware thinks otherwise, they obviously haven't been listening to us. It's insulting.

Well this "whiner" (so named by yet another rude person not taking the time to understand what we're saying) is feeling let down by this news. I keep trying to hold onto hope on this one, Bioware staff keep posting messages like "you will be rewarded" and "if only you knew what we had planned" but to then just say they're providing "clarity and closure". I'm not stupid, I got the ending - I just hated it and feel that it didn't work with the franchise. PLEASE Bioware don't let me down.

[Geinen]

Rdubs wrote...


Well, there you have it.  "Clarify and add closure."  In other words, double down on the current ending.  That is NOT why people hate the endings.  Either they don't get why people are pissed, or they do but can't bring themselves to admit the ending sucks so they're trying to plug some of the plot holes they didn't notice until fans pointed them out.

Prepare for disaster.  

Its JUST PR talk.  They playing nice to both sides, kinda saying fluff without anything specific.

Twitter never means anything.  We've been down this path a bajillion times now...

[Shaun72]

DJBare wrote...

Please do not embed or quote images, it might be seen as spam and then we run the risk of getting the thread closed
Please edit your quotes in order to reduce pyramids, this is very helpful to others reading.
Please do not bump the thread, it just takes a few minutes to think up meaningful content, the thread has a strong enough following to maintain it's presence on the forum.
Please do not use the term "troll" in any context, it is against forum rules to refer to anyone as a troll, if you are having problems with a member of these forums, use the report link or PM the moderators, but do it quietly, do not engange in arguments.
Above all, be respectful to each other.

Am I the only that is getting annoyed by this being reposted every two pages? You are reminding everyone not to spam, while spamming yourself?