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[TamiBx]

 So...apparently they announced a patch to fix the face import? 

http://gamerant.com/...h-brian-139823/

P.S. sorry if it's been posted here already. 

[Annora]

LadyMarisa wrote...

What in the world did I miss?

Most of us here have completely ackowledged the validity of opinions that differ from ours.
We didn't attach a charity to lend our cause crediblity, we support a charity because we have a solid group and regardless of whether or not we get what we'd like to see, we knew we could do some good for the gaming world by donating to a gaming related charity.
I must have missed people asking for donations back because the only thing I've seen so far are people asking what the totals were up to and cheering the group on for having raised said money.


I'm more than a little confused by your statements.

You have almost certainly heard of "Retake Mass Effect" by now. One of many grassroots efforts to get a new ending to Mass Effect 3, it’s part community, part online petition, and part (here is where things get complicated) Child’s Play Donation Drive. They have stopped taking donations now partly because they basically won and partly because we don’t know how to feel about this use of the charity.

As the main point of contact for Child’s Play, Jamie has been buried under mail about this situation. Apparently some of the people giving to the cause seemed to think that they were paying for a new ending to Mass Effect. She’s been asked what the goal is, and how much they need to raise in order to get the ending produced. We’ve also been contacted by PayPal due to a high number of people asking for their donations back. This is in addition to readers who simply couldn’t understand how this was connected to Child’s Play’s mission. We were dealing with a lot of very confused people, more every day, and that told us we had a problem.

We have policies in place to deal with direct abuse: we don’t allow companies to use Child’s Play in order to sell more stuff. To that end we do not allow deals like "1 cent of every dollar goes to Child’s Play!" or whatever. But this isn’t anywhere on that continuum! This is a passionate community that formed around one thing, and some of that passion was expressed in charitable giving. I actually support this cause, but I am a pessimist, and I’m thinking about the next time something like this happens - when someone attaches Child’s Play to something we can’t get behind, or leverages your history of generosity and fellow feeling for their own weird bull****. So, we need to have something like a policy on this. This is the best way I can think to say it:

Child’s Play cannot be a tool to draw attention to a cause. Child’s Play must be the Cause.

Nothing like this has ever happened in the almost ten years the charity has been running, so it kind of threw me for a loop. Thanks for listening.

(CW)TB 

Source: http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

I've bolded relevant parts.

Modifié par Anastassia, 23 mars 2012 - 10:33 .

[KiganMatsuei]

Mass Effect 3.5 - The story we promised and the endings you deserved!
Retail Price: $49.99

Lol honestly, at least we can hope they don't attempt another game. The Reaper invasion has arrived. Short of Shepard surviving and fixing the aftermath all by himself, they've got nothing.

[RatedRRachel]

TamiBx wrote...

kewnsty wrote...

right so lets say they do the indoc theory to explain the current ending.
 its by no means the new ending.
soo either they will include fan ideas about  the choices u made in previus scenes/ games. come and help you at the end
 garrus comming over and fighting over your body. grunt comming in and smashing a few reapers. callin over more krogan.  asari biotics forming a protective barrier around the group . and u see the fleets punching a hole in the reapers.?
or ? how would u do the  new ending?

+ think harbinger should be saved for mass effect 4?
hes trying to rebuild a reaper fleet or something.

Maybe Bioware should just drop their "it's a trilogy" idea and make ME4 <_<

Oh wait, better yet. They should make Mass Effect 3.5 or something. 

Mass Effect 3 - Awakening... hey, they did it for Dragon Age?

All kidding aside, I just hope they stick with their vision for a trilogy, but end it in a way that actually fits the character and lore they created over the past five years. I am all for respecting a storyteller for their decisions, but these endings make little to no sense in so many ways. Instead of another game, they should focus on fixing the series. But whatever brings in the money and costs the least will probably be what they will do. 

[TamiBx]

KiganMatsuei wrote...

Mass Effect 3.5 - The story we promised and the endings you deserved!
Retail Price: $49.99

Lol honestly, at least we can hope they don't attempt another game. The Reaper invasion has arrived. Short of Shepard surviving and fixing the aftermath all by himself, they've got nothing.

This made me lol 

An expension like Awakening...just need to make sure they don't take our LIs away from us in ME3.5 

[LadyMarisa]

TamiBx wrote...

Maybe Bioware should just drop their "it's a trilogy" idea and make ME4 <_<

Oh wait, better yet. They should make Mass Effect 3.5 or something. 

I dunno. I don't have a rpbolem with it being a trilogy, I only have a minor problem with not having a "happy" ending. What I really want is just an ending that fits the choices I've made along the way. That's all. I kept being told that my choices meant something and I want that reflected in the ending.

I don't want or need a 4th game or a 3.5. I won't flip out if they do it but that's an idea that hasn't been on my list. I'm fine with the story ending.

I would love to play more games set in the Mass Effect setting but I'm ready for a new character. =)

[Alamandorious]

Anastassia wrote...

Ask for a new ending, be disappointed, but don't demand things. Don't act as if your opinion is the only one that matters. And don't attach a completely unrelated charity to your cause to lend it credibility, and then ask for donations back because that charity was completely unrelated to your cause.

Wow...wasn't this a bundle of hostility.

First, I agree; do not ask for donations back.  That charity is for sick children, and we made the donations to show that we aren't spoiled, or acting entitled...anyone that asks for their donations back is incredibly immature and behaving incredibly poorly.

Good for you for point that out, if it's been happening.

Second:  There would be no related charities, anyway; this one is as close as we could get because it is, quite inherently, linked to gaming.  We didn't take the approach of 'this charity supports us', it was more 'we support this charity because we are gamers'.  The petition was on the page as a means of showing who organized the charity, and there was a plea that even if you don't believe in our cause, to donate to the charity directly.

Third:  All individual opinions matter.  However, the majority of individual opinions are coinciding with oneanother in very real way; the ending needs to be changed.

[DJBare]

Anastassia wrote...
Source: http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect
I've bolded relevant parts.

We are aware of it, and have been for some time, most of us don't agree with those asking for their money to be return, some of us(including me) did not agree with the charity idea in the first place, note I said "did not agree" we were not opposed to it.

[Annora]

cyrrant wrote...

Lean on your friend to see if he can use corporate connections to find out wtf is going on at Bioware?

That would probably put a strain on your friendship, though...nvm

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

My friend doesn't work for BioWare. Her studio was contracted to make a port of the first Mass Effect game, which originally came out in 2007. It's 2012 now.

She also doesn't agree with the "Retake Mass Effect" movement, nor do I.

[Alamandorious]

Anastassia wrote...

LadyMarisa wrote...

What in the world did I miss?

Most of us here have completely ackowledged the validity of opinions that differ from ours.
We didn't attach a charity to lend our cause crediblity, we support a charity because we have a solid group and regardless of whether or not we get what we'd like to see, we knew we could do some good for the gaming world by donating to a gaming related charity.
I must have missed people asking for donations back because the only thing I've seen so far are people asking what the totals were up to and cheering the group on for having raised said money.


I'm more than a little confused by your statements.

You have almost certainly heard of "Retake Mass Effect" by now. One of many grassroots efforts to get a new ending to Mass Effect 3, it’s part community, part online petition, and part (here is where things get complicated) Child’s Play Donation Drive. They have stopped taking donations now partly because they basically won and partly because we don’t know how to feel about this use of the charity.

As the main point of contact for Child’s Play, Jamie has been buried under mail about this situation. Apparently some of the people giving to the cause seemed to think that they were paying for a new ending to Mass Effect. She’s been asked what the goal is, and how much they need to raise in order to get the ending produced. We’ve also been contacted by PayPal due to a high number of people asking for their donations back. This is in addition to readers who simply couldn’t understand how this was connected to Child’s Play’s mission. We were dealing with a lot of very confused people, more every day, and that told us we had a problem.

We have policies in place to deal with direct abuse: we don’t allow companies to use Child’s Play in order to sell more stuff. To that end we do not allow deals like "1 cent of every dollar goes to Child’s Play!" or whatever. But this isn’t anywhere on that continuum! This is a passionate community that formed around one thing, and some of that passion was expressed in charitable giving. I actually support this cause, but I am a pessimist, and I’m thinking about the next time something like this happens - when someone attaches Child’s Play to something we can’t get behind, or leverages your history of generosity and fellow feeling for their own weird bull****. So, we need to have something like a policy on this. This is the best way I can think to say it:

Child’s Play cannot be a tool to draw attention to a cause. Child’s Play must be the Cause.

Nothing like this has ever happened in the almost ten years the charity has been running, so it kind of threw me for a loop. Thanks for listening.

(CW)TB 

Source: http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

I've bolded relevant parts.

Agreed with you; the people asking for their money back are horrible people.  I put in money I really couldn't afford to give up (between jobs atm), but I did anyway and I don't want it back.

[silencemayday]

KiganMatsuei wrote...

Mass Effect 3.5 - The story we promised and the endings you deserved!
Retail Price: $49.99

Lol honestly, at least we can hope they don't attempt another game. The Reaper invasion has arrived. Short of Shepard surviving and fixing the aftermath all by himself, they've got nothing.

well, still got dark energy..

wait- let's not give them any crappy ideas. i can only deal with one vent brat in a single franchise. who knows what they might cook up. 

Modifié par silencemayday, 23 mars 2012 - 10:39 .

[TamiBx]

Guys, the ME3.5 or ME4 was a joke. No way I would want that. I just want the ending to be fixed. =D
So, Bioware, pay no attention to what I just said.

[MeldarthX]

http://gamerant.com/...h-brian-139823/

[TheSimbul]

Ok, here are my thoughts after reading today's posts...

Concerning Shepard the hero and the need to distance the character from the story in order to continue exploiting the Mass Effect Universe, I call bull****.

Were we to get, say, and ending where Shepard survives with some cutscenes as an epilogue, and if Bioware put out a new Mass Effect set in the future making it impossible to play as the Commander, I don't see how his/her survival would be detrimental. If the game is set 10,000 after the original trilogy EVERYONE we know will be dead anyways. They can still be considered heroes/legends if they survived the Reapers, death is not a pre-requisite to attain that. SO WHY MUST SHEPARD ALWAYS DIE? Even if they want to go with the "Destruction of mass Relays = thousands of years to attain same technological/space travel level" I don't see how a positive conclusion with Shep and his/her crew + LI becomes impossible, or betrays the artistic integrity of the game.

I just....I don't get it. How did anyone involved in the crafting of this game seriously think ending it this way was acceptable? And I mean from a purely business/professional pride standpoint. It's just plain bad. Nonsensical.

And I'm not sorry to say Bioware, there is NO amount of explaining in any form or shape you can cook up that will change that. So if you are not planing to change anything substantially, save yourself some time and money.

We'll be done. And I'm pretty sure I speak for most in this thread and around the world.

[Nightfire78]

Well, I figure the people at ign didn't all want to be thrown into the Moriarty boat. Clearly they have good reviewers who had more critical views on ME3 (be it for the buggy quest journal, smallish galaxy feel or the ending) and I figure if they want to be a place that's taken seriously for game reviews, they had to show that. I, for one, am at least a bit more inclined to ever look at an ign review again. Had they not done this, I would have given 0 <word starting with f that I can't use here> about their reviews in future.

Also, the guy who said he's been making it known around the office that he was unhappy with the ending (Destin, I think) sounds like he might have been a little peeved at Moriarty making it sound like the whole office was happy with it... Just my take though.

Wouldn't call ign a war asset, but I think I can actually call them game reviewers again without having to do air quotes.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Or how about an interqual, Mass effect Alliance Marine? lol

[Icetea07]

This comment was made on Nov 8 in response to the leaked scripts.


"Blackwater
November 8, 2011 at 6:10 PMI read them this morning… my interest in ME3 has dropped significantly.

QUICK SHEPARD YOU MUST COLLECT THE MACGUFFINS! ONLY WITH THEM CAN WE COMPLETE THE DEUS EX MACHINA!

Reply Aidan
November 8, 2011 at 8:02 PMI think you misunderstand deus ex machina…

Deus ex machina would be like… in the last chapter of the game, an alien species we’ve never heard of rides in and saves the day.

Or… at the last second, EDI finds a virus to kill everything that she never noticed for two whole games.

Slowly building a superweapon over the course of a game (and one that was foreshadowed throughout ME2, keep in mind) isn’t deus ex machina. It’s a bunch of MacGuffins building up to a fairly cliched conclusion. As long as they explain why it was hidden until now, it’s not entirely implausible.

Not the most original plot in the world, sure, but I think they’ll pull off the ‘space action movie’ vibe pretty well.

That said, I had a lot of other issues with the draft storyline. Forced character deaths in particular."




I wonder what he thinks now.

[J.Random]

Anyone can still go to charity webpage and donate right there, without some counter to brag about. I think that idea with charity was good, just that chipin counter was unnecessary - it bugged me since the day it was started.

And about IGN. They are trying to seat on two chairs at once, that's all I can think about their "gamers are entitled whiners.. oh, wait, we dropped the ball... erm, but we don't like crappy endings too" line of articles.

Modifié par J.Random, 23 mars 2012 - 10:47 .

[Alamandorious]

J.Random wrote...

Anyone can still go to charity webpage and donate right there, without some counter to brag about. I think that idea with charity was good, just that chipin counter was unnecessary - it bugged me since the day it was started.

Not entirely a bad idea;  it gave people a morale boost, and is pretty big props for a diverse group of gamers (who, in a lot of cases such as myself, couldn't really afford the donation but did it anyway...probably would have anyway, hadn't heard of Child's Play before now).  It made me feel proud to be a gamer and part of this community.

Of course, now we have idiots, it seems, asking for their money back...it's a charity...that's despicable.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

J.Random wrote...

Anyone can still go to charity webpage and donate right there, without some counter to brag about. I think that idea with charity was good, just that chipin counter was unnecessary - it bugged me since the day it was started.

I think people had different mindsets when donating, most thought lets help some children, and show we are not just lazy entitled gamers, and some perhaps thought, yes we can use this for free publicity.


At the end of the day $80000 is a large ammount, and more would not have proved much else, the drive served its two purposes to 1 raise money for children, and 2 Give publicity to the retake movement.

[RussianOrc]

Anastassia wrote...
Source: http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect
I've bolded relevant parts.

Haven't passed through their minds that we've stoped donating because we don't have anymore money??
I mean i've already donated more then i should, so, as much as i appreciate the cause i can't donated any more than that.
This article is offensive to us.

Modifié par RussianOrc, 23 mars 2012 - 10:48 .

[TamiBx]

J.Random wrote...

Anyone can still go to charity webpage and donate right there, without some counter to brag about. I think that idea with charity was good, just that chipin counter was unnecessary - it bugged me since the day it was started.

And about IGN. They are trying to seat on two chairs at once, that's all I can think about their "gamers are entitled whiners.. oh, wait, we dropped the ball... erm, but we don't like crappy endings too" line of articles.

But it did get everyone's attention and made it look like we were more than just "annoying spoiled kids asking for a rainbow and unicorn ending" 

[fade2black2610]

Alreet guys,

This is pretty relevant, but I haven't seen this particular issue discussed before (although I probably missed it somewhere along the line).

I, like a lot of you, can't bare to play Mass Effect 3 again and this bled out towards the multi-player. However, I was soooo damn bored during my week off that I got back into it and found it the same as I did before... so bloody fun.

However, my main aim in this was to get the Galactic Readiness Rating (GRR) up to 100%, and therefore will be pretty much ready for another run at the main game (after the ending thing gets resolved and yes, I'm an optimist). The absolute s*** that I found was that from around 75% of the GRR onwards gave me the same damn message! "Allied forces are holding steady and winning in key locations."

BioWare: IF you insist on giving us multi-player that can affect single player then make sure it actually does! Don't just have 2 standard messages, one where we're losing and one where we're winning. What is the point? Such a great idea and you've just thrown it against the wall!! If I put my "precious" time into getting the GRR up to 100% then I want to see a huge difference in the single-player game. Next time IMPLEMENT IT INTO THE ENDING!

Wow... rage.

[silencemayday]

i'm still intend on donating everything from the shirt sales to child's play. nothing's actually changed. we're just missing a counter now..

[Alamandorious]

RussianOrc wrote...

Anastassia wrote...
Source: http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect
I've bolded relevant parts.

Haven't passed through their minds that we've stoped donating because we don't have anymore money??
I mean i've already donated more then i should, so, as much as i appreciate the cause i can't donated any more than that.
This article is offensive to us.

That's not the issue; the issue is that people are asking for money -back-.