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Dauw wrote...
I can think of worse ways to spend eternity.
Dauw wrote...
This bugs me too! It's like they hired some outsider to write the ending. If I didn't know better I would never believe it was the same team.Debi-Tage wrote...
*facepalm* I'm sorry, I am just having such a hard time accepting that the same people who wrote ME2 and ME3 wrote that ending...and thought it was, of all things, good! It just baffles my mind!
nitefyre410 wrote...
I almost want to sit them down and do a compare and contrast...showing them different Bittersweet endings compared to the ME 3. Then again I read an article when some one basically said Bioware are not very good story tellers...Which I can some agree with... there has always been something lacking, missing. ME 3 had it for me but then... well... the game took its own ending to the knee.
Let's use your scenario. Let's assume that Bioware tells us that they will produce a new ending in 3 months. They will have to dedicate 3 months of resources to producing a new ending, which is 3 months of development time that they are not using to produce another DLC like Retake Omega or something. Once the DLC is done, Bioware also faces a new dilemma: do they charge the player for this DLC? If they do charge the players for an ending DLC, then they will face the backlash that they released an incomplete game and are now charging extra to have to the story be completed. If they do not charge for the ending DLC, then they have wasted 3 months of resources to fix this mistake as well as the opportunity cost of those 3 months time as well. The developers in ME3 will face some serious repercussions in EA for this mess and for costing them extra money.Hydralysk wrote...
Ishiken wrote...
Bioware understands fundamentally that the disgruntled fans want and wish for alternate endings. However it will be very difficult to accomplish. Mass Effect 3 does not exist in a way that would allow Bioware to just do a DLC that would further the plot (aka post indoctrination). Every cutscene is voiced, so to produce any further content would require Bioware to rehire and reschedule all of the voice actors and then piece them together. This usually takes time, which Bioware does not possess in abundance. The longer that Bioware waits to release the ending DLC, the less interested the consumer eventually becomes. If the ending DLC is released 3 months from now, approximately half of the movement would either have lost interest in anything that Bioware has done or moved on to another game. The best course of action for them now is to produce a DLC that explains the endings in a way similar to Dragon Age: Origin and hope to quell down enough of the movement that it loses steam and eventually go away. It is the tried and true PR strategy to produce just enough content so that a large majority of the discontent consumer base is either placated by the content or just simply glad that Bioware just did something.
I'd disagree with that, if they added in an epilogue like in DA:O that still leaves all the ending plot holes in place, and I think not acknowledging these plot holes at all will do more harm.
If they make a proper ending, indoc or not, as long as they tell us it's coming 3 months down the line the people who are emotionally invested in the series (aka the majority of RME3) will wait. After all the majority of people who bought the ME2 DLC are those same invested fans.
If however Bioware doesn't take it's time and just slaps us with an epilogue, it might placate a few, but the majority of people who are in this movement will still take it as another slap in the face and that'll be the last straw.
Modifié par Ishiken, 24 mars 2012 - 01:13 .
nitefyre410 wrote...
Debi-Tage wrote...
nitefyre410 wrote...
No real Bittersweet.... its her at Thanes furneal finally breaking down. Samantha and the rest of the crew talk her out doing something really stupid... Ashley, slaps the ****** out of her. They remind her that it was Thane last wish that she Live, a long happy life and not spend the time she has grieving him..
Awww....
True Bittersweet ending in the trueest sense of the word, yeah maybe some people at Bioware should have looked at some Bittersweet endings and how they are done before trying to pull on off... I.E Final Fantasy X is great example of one.
There's been a number of funny ending parody videos too, helps ease the painKaiserinKai wrote...
Iucounou wrote...
Regardless of whether this is just a bad ending, or a marketing gimmick gone wrong, let's take a moment to recap what ME3 has accomplished during its short release period.
1. It's made headline gaming news.
2. It's angered "some" of the fanbase.
3. It's split the fanbase into opposing camps and put us at odds with each other.
4. It's made many of us question the integrity of certain journalists.
I'm sure there are others that could be added, but that is just off the top of my head. Do any of those things seem like a good result to any of you? Because they don't to me. Can anyone think of any actual good things that have come of this release?
I've seen some really good ME3 fanfiction?
Garrus fans are really happy with his romance?
80k for charity?
and.... ok, I don't have anything else
nitefyre410 wrote...
Debi-Tage wrote...
nitefyre410 wrote...
No real Bittersweet.... its her at Thanes furneal finally breaking down. Samantha and the rest of the crew talk her out doing something really stupid... Ashley, slaps the ****** out of her. They remind her that it was Thane last wish that she Live, a long happy life and not spend the time she has grieving him..
Awww....
True Bittersweet ending in the trueest sense of the word, yeah maybe some people at Bioware should have looked at some Bittersweet endings and how they are done before trying to pull on off... I.E Final Fantasy X is great example of one.
Reptilian Rob wrote...
Slightly drunk and sad.
Why did Mass Effect have to end like this?
nitefyre410 wrote...
True Bittersweet ending in the trueest sense of the word, yeah maybe some people at Bioware should have looked at some Bittersweet endings and how they are done before trying to pull on off... I.E Final Fantasy X is great example of one.
Reptilian Rob wrote...
Slightly drunk and sad.
Why did Mass Effect have to end like this?
Hah, yeah, started thinking about this just after I clicked the submit button. I'm way too tired for thinking ahead, it would seem.Computim wrote...
Dauw wrote...
I can think of worse ways to spend eternity.
After the Normandy was decommissioned all of the datapads were put into storage locker A-9B-5 in Section Blue 33 of the Earth Archives. Garrus now has a permanent view of the back of Mordin's head.
Modifié par Teleraine, 24 mars 2012 - 01:15 .
Yeah, I already had respect for moderators since it's something I've done myself, but gotta say I have a lot more respect for "BSN" moderators, having said that, I also have a lot of respect for most of the folk who have participated in this thread, even under a lot of temptation they have remained remarkably restrained, and that's why I do the things I do, it's for them, they have been incredible throughout all of this, best bunch of nerds, geeks and wierdos I've ever known.Shaun72 wrote...
It's kind of annoying when people continue to break forum rules even after you reminded them not to for the good of the threads' existence, huh?
Modifié par Bubalo, 24 mars 2012 - 01:30 .
Debi-Tage wrote...
Little Miss Angel wrote...
*snip*
Yesss....It's so sweet!!
Scoob wrote...
Bioware is hitting us hard. PR analysis guy shut down by EA, same with the charity drive, forums are being modded like crazy....feels like we need a separate forum to gather at this point.
DJBare wrote...
best bunch of nerds, geeks and wierdos I've ever known.
Ishiken wrote...
If they do charge the players for an ending DLC, then they will face the backlash that they released an incomplete game and are now charging extra to have to the story be completed. If they do not charge for the ending DLC, then they have wasted 3 months of resources to fix this mistake as well as the opportunity cost of those 3 months time as well. The developers in ME3 will face some serious repercussions in EA for this mess and for costing them extra money.
There are also players that actually like the ending of the game, and if Bioware releases an ending DLC and invalidates the current ending, then they will definitely face the backlash of those people that currently like the ending. It is a double edge sword here. They have to fix the current ending without upsetting the fans that actually like the curent ending, since they seriously would not want those people to start a "Go Back to the Previous Ending" movement.
)Modifié par Soundsystem, 24 mars 2012 - 01:20 .
DJBare wrote...
Yeah, I already had respect for moderators since it's something I've done myself, but gotta say I have a lot more respect for "BSN" moderators, having said that, I also have a lot of respect for most of the folk who have participated in this thread, even under a lot of temptation they have remained remarkably restrained, and that's why I do the things I do, it's for them, they have been incredible throughout all of this, best bunch of nerds, geeks and wierdos I've ever known.
Spartas Husky wrote...
DJBare wrote...
best bunch of nerds, geeks and wierdos I've ever known.
this made me teary
Scoob wrote...
Bioware is hitting us hard. PR analysis guy shut down by EA, same with the charity drive, forums are being modded like crazy....feels like we need a separate forum to gather at this point.
Modifié par Computim, 24 mars 2012 - 01:22 .
DJBare wrote...
Yeah, I already had respect for moderators since it's something I've done myself, but gotta say I have a lot more respect for "BSN" moderators, having said that, I also have a lot of respect for most of the folk who have participated in this thread, even under a lot of temptation they have remained remarkably restrained, and that's why I do the things I do, it's for them, they have been incredible throughout all of this, best bunch of nerds, geeks and wierdos I've ever known.Shaun72 wrote...
It's kind of annoying when people continue to break forum rules even after you reminded them not to for the good of the threads' existence, huh?
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