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TamiBx

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 Good thing I live alone in my dorm...

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P.S. pretty sure this happens in real life...:D

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SkaldFish wrote...

Back on topic (sorry)...

Just posted this comment to the Why is BioWare apologizing for not having a sappy ending? article...

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"In any regard, the studio is placing commerce above art." Do you seriously believe that art EVER comes before commerce in a mass-marketed video game? Come now.

Besides, the issue with ME3's ending is more about a lapse in quality than any petty pouting about not getting a happy ending. ME3 customers have reiterated this time and time again, only to see the next piece published with the same misconception. Consumers just wanted an ending that actually made sense within the narrative context of the story. If the gaming media want the public to consider their work to be art, they should understand that the consumer has reasonable expectations of consistent quality.

The storytelling in the Mass Effect series was never going to win a Nebula award, but, until the last 10 minutes of ME3 blew a gaping hole in the fabric of the Mass Effect universe, players could at least manage to suspend disbelief.

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My apologies if I seem to shortchange any of you who did just want a happier ending option. I understand completely why you do. It just doesn't seem to me that whether the ending is happy or sad is the core issue, hence this comment. It's just too easy to attack that position and dismiss the whole outcry as a preference issue. IMO. YMMV.


As a person who would like a happy ending, I appreciate that but there is no need to apologize given the context of where you posted. The thing that is so annoying is that pointing out how the lack of the option for a happy ending is essentially forcing a canon decision on the player - in addition to all the other BIG issues with the ending would really be lost on them at this point. I'm willing to bet half of the people touting that line over and over again have never even played the games.

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TamiBx wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 So, I went out with my friends to a party, but the party got cancelled and no one informed us. And this was my first attempt to socialize after ME3 ending.

...guess I'm back to hold the line! :lol:


Welcome back to holding the line then~!


Thank you!

On a random thought, I've always wanted my FemShep to romance Joker *coughcough*SethGreen*coughcough* but that option was never available...:crying:



Yeah. I love when you jokingly proposition him and he says that he's not Kaidan. I love Joker so much... even if the ending made him look like a coward for leaving the battle and Shepard. 

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VigilancePress wrote...

My read on the "April" thing is not a release date for content. That is when they will have more *news* for us. So they're basically planning and taking data and calculating money costs right now. They're trying to see what they can do and how much it's going to cost them.

Once they determine their course of action, they'll make an announcement.

Once they make their announcement, I'll know if I'm going to bother with anything else they have to sell or not. :)

Hold the Line!


I hope their data tells them to make a quality DLC, not just a quick fix. It probably won't, but a girl can dream.

We really won't know until April, and time seems to be going slower the closer we get.

Hold the line.

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RatedRRachel wrote...

Yeah. I love when you jokingly proposition him and he says that he's not Kaidan. I love Joker so much... even if the ending made him look like a coward for leaving the battle and Shepard. 


Ahm, that was ridiculous. Plothole, anyone?
Bioware betrayed their own character's personality right there...:crying:

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TamiBx wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 So, I went out with my friends to a party, but the party got cancelled and no one informed us. And this was my first attempt to socialize after ME3 ending.

...guess I'm back to hold the line! :lol:


Welcome back to holding the line then~!


Thank you!

On a random thought, I've always wanted my FemShep to romance Joker *coughcough*SethGreen*coughcough* but that option was never available...:crying:


 FemShep has too active a lifestyle for poor Joker.  She's too much woman for his brittle bones... honestly him and EDI are perfect together.. it's like "awwwww" and everyone smiles at the utter cuteness.

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Debi-Tage wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

Back on topic (sorry)...

Just posted this comment to the Why is BioWare apologizing for not having a sappy ending? article...

---

"In any regard, the studio is placing commerce above art." Do you seriously believe that art EVER comes before commerce in a mass-marketed video game? Come now.

Besides, the issue with ME3's ending is more about a lapse in quality than any petty pouting about not getting a happy ending. ME3 customers have reiterated this time and time again, only to see the next piece published with the same misconception. Consumers just wanted an ending that actually made sense within the narrative context of the story. If the gaming media want the public to consider their work to be art, they should understand that the consumer has reasonable expectations of consistent quality.

The storytelling in the Mass Effect series was never going to win a Nebula award, but, until the last 10 minutes of ME3 blew a gaping hole in the fabric of the Mass Effect universe, players could at least manage to suspend disbelief.

---

My apologies if I seem to shortchange any of you who did just want a happier ending option. I understand completely why you do. It just doesn't seem to me that whether the ending is happy or sad is the core issue, hence this comment. It's just too easy to attack that position and dismiss the whole outcry as a preference issue. IMO. YMMV.


As a person who would like a happy ending, I appreciate that but there is no need to apologize given the context of where you posted. The thing that is so annoying is that pointing out how the lack of the option for a happy ending is essentially forcing a canon decision on the player - in addition to all the other BIG issues with the ending would really be lost on them at this point. I'm willing to bet half of the people touting that line over and over again have never even played the games.

Excellent point. And thanks!

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TamiBx wrote...

RatedRRachel wrote...

Yeah. I love when you jokingly proposition him and he says that he's not Kaidan. I love Joker so much... even if the ending made him look like a coward for leaving the battle and Shepard. 


Ahm, that was ridiculous. Plothole, anyone?
Bioware betrayed their own character's personality right there...:crying:


I think they character assisinated everyone on the Normandy... even the Normandy herself. She wouldn't run from a fight either when the chips are down.

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VigilancePress wrote...

My read on the "April" thing is not a release date for content. That is when they will have more *news* for us. So they're basically planning and taking data and calculating money costs right now. They're trying to see what they can do and how much it's going to cost them.

Once they determine their course of action, they'll make an announcement.

Once they make their announcement, I'll know if I'm going to bother with anything else they have to sell or not. :)

Hold the Line!

I think i got what bioware is trying to do.
They will delay the ending dlc ultil 12/21/12 so, the world will end before we play it.

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TamiBx wrote...

 Good thing I live alone in my dorm...

http://sphotos.xx.fb...159758715_n.jpg

P.S. pretty sure this happens in real life...:D


omg this is awesome and so relatable.

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

RatedRRachel wrote...

Yeah. I love when you jokingly proposition him and he says that he's not Kaidan. I love Joker so much... even if the ending made him look like a coward for leaving the battle and Shepard. 


Ahm, that was ridiculous. Plothole, anyone?
Bioware betrayed their own character's personality right there...:crying:


I think they character assisinated everyone on the Normandy... even the Normandy herself. She wouldn't run from a fight either when the chips are down.


Especially since EDI technically is the Normandy now.....No way does she run out on Shepard.

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RussianOrc wrote...

VigilancePress wrote...

My read on the "April" thing is not a release date for content. That is when they will have more *news* for us. So they're basically planning and taking data and calculating money costs right now. They're trying to see what they can do and how much it's going to cost them.

Once they determine their course of action, they'll make an announcement.

Once they make their announcement, I'll know if I'm going to bother with anything else they have to sell or not. :)

Hold the Line!

I think i got what bioware is trying to do.
They will delay the ending dlc ultil 12/21/12 so, the world will end before we play it.


Mayan Calendar didn't have leap years..  Take into account the 400 some odd leap years since the roman calendar was invented and the world should have ended about the time the first Mass Effect 3 release date was set for last year.  I think Bioware was shooting for that first one... when it didn't happen they obviously had to come up with Citadel KId Image IPB

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FellishBeast wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Good thing I live alone in my dorm...

http://sphotos.xx.fb...159758715_n.jpg

P.S. pretty sure this happens in real life...:D


omg this is awesome and so relatable.


Lol!

What's sad, is how true it probably is...

Hold the line. No time for sleep!

#58389
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Ender99 wrote...
*snip*


Good point, though I guess I got distracted by the fact they gave EDI a body. *shrug* Oh well, was too busy squading it up with Garrus and Tali anyway.

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RussianOrc wrote...

VigilancePress wrote...

My read on the "April" thing is not a release date for content. That is when they will have more *news* for us. So they're basically planning and taking data and calculating money costs right now. They're trying to see what they can do and how much it's going to cost them.

Once they determine their course of action, they'll make an announcement.

Once they make their announcement, I'll know if I'm going to bother with anything else they have to sell or not. :)

Hold the Line!

I think i got what bioware is trying to do.
They will delay the ending dlc ultil 12/21/12 so, the world will end before we play it.

As long as we don't one day find ourselves adding a sig like this:

"Holding the Line Since 2012"

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

RatedRRachel wrote...

Yeah. I love when you jokingly proposition him and he says that he's not Kaidan. I love Joker so much... even if the ending made him look like a coward for leaving the battle and Shepard. 


Ahm, that was ridiculous. Plothole, anyone?
Bioware betrayed their own character's personality right there...:crying:


I think they character assisinated everyone on the Normandy... even the Normandy herself. She wouldn't run from a fight either when the chips are down.


I think the ending just did an assassination on all of the characters Shepard included. For making Shepard actual talk to and believe the Starchild, for making Joker just leave the battle with the Normandy, for the crew and love interest to just leave Earth without Shepard... ugh, so much wrong with five minutes of a great three game series. 

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Sleep time, gn and hold the line.

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Computim wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

VigilancePress wrote...

My read on the "April" thing is not a release date for content. That is when they will have more *news* for us. So they're basically planning and taking data and calculating money costs right now. They're trying to see what they can do and how much it's going to cost them.

Once they determine their course of action, they'll make an announcement.

Once they make their announcement, I'll know if I'm going to bother with anything else they have to sell or not. :)

Hold the Line!

I think i got what bioware is trying to do.
They will delay the ending dlc ultil 12/21/12 so, the world will end before we play it.


Mayan Calendar didn't have leap years..  Take into account the 400 some odd leap years since the roman calendar was invented and the world should have ended about the time the first Mass Effect 3 release date was set for last year.  I think Bioware was shooting for that first one... when it didn't happen they obviously had to come up with Citadel KId Image IPB


Diabolical.......

They've created their own apocolypse.

#58394
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FellishBeast wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Good thing I live alone in my dorm...

http://sphotos.xx.fb...159758715_n.jpg

P.S. pretty sure this happens in real life...:D


omg this is awesome and so relatable.


+1

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Everyone is dead. The only thing left alive is the Yagh. (Think i spelled it right) wait. With the Relay's exploding not even they are alive. Geh!! Space Magic sucks.

-Insane_Ivan

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Computim wrote...

 FemShep has too active a lifestyle for poor Joker.  She's too much woman for his brittle bones... honestly him and EDI are perfect together.. it's like "awwwww" and everyone smiles at the utter cuteness.


First time I helped them. Second time...got a little mean (because I was mad at the ending) and decided not to help them :devil:

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Ender99 wrote...
*snip*


Good point, though I guess I got distracted by the fact they gave EDI a body. *shrug* Oh well, was too busy squading it up with Garrus and Tali anyway.


Garrus was my favorite squadmate throughout all of the games.

He didn't deserve Space Magic and Ghost Boy.

Hold the line.

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RussianOrc wrote...

VigilancePress wrote...

My read on the "April" thing is not a release date for content. That is when they will have more *news* for us. So they're basically planning and taking data and calculating money costs right now. They're trying to see what they can do and how much it's going to cost them.

Once they determine their course of action, they'll make an announcement.

Once they make their announcement, I'll know if I'm going to bother with anything else they have to sell or not. :)

Hold the Line!

I think i got what bioware is trying to do.
They will delay the ending dlc ultil 12/21/12 so, the world will end before we play it.


That's my 21st Birthday... :?

#58399
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TamiBx wrote...

Computim wrote...

 FemShep has too active a lifestyle for poor Joker.  She's too much woman for his brittle bones... honestly him and EDI are perfect together.. it's like "awwwww" and everyone smiles at the utter cuteness.


First time I helped them. Second time...got a little mean (because I was mad at the ending) and decided not to help them :devil:


You're so ebil! I've helped them everytime... just cause I don't know if I can ever get over Joker being like, "Take care of her." :crying:

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Why is this space magic term being thrown around so much?

Magic is just science we havent explained yet.