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Lord Costantino

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TamiBx wrote...

@Lord Constantino

Thank you! Haha.


No problem! :happy:

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TamiBx wrote...

 I was watching all the possible DA:O endings and...why couldn't these be ME3 endings? Bioware, why did you do this to us? You made a great game and now...Why?! :crying:


I was expecting something similer to a DA:O style ending. In my opinion i think with ME3 being the end of Shepards story it would have worked really well.

#59153
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naes1984 wrote...

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One thing bothers me about all this; How on earth did they not think that we would react this way? I mean, they fed us so much about how the endings were going to be vastly different and our choices would matter...did they just think we'd forget? or do they think we are lacking in the general intelligence department?


I think they were under severe time restraints and I bet if you bought the writers a few drinks they would probably admit that they weren't satisfied with it either.

Hey -- I LIKE this notion. Who lives in Edmonton? :devil:

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Its my presumption that they dont want you or me to stop playong multi player. Like other companies, Bioware is seeing multi player as the next beg money maker, and they have climbed on the bandwagon hook line and sinker. If anything they will most likely tell us pureists to go jump in a lake and abandon us for the thirteen year old PVP crowd who's mommies and daddies can afford rediculous amounts of chaff and garbage for their precious little children..


I think the call for Multiplayer came from EA, not Bioware. My impression is that BW didn't want to include MP in the game, but have it as a seperate product. Only to be overridden by EA.

The damming thing about the MP is that going off discussions on these boards from a year or so ago MP wasn't wanted by the customers. (Some went so far as to state that if ME3 had multiplayer they wouldn't buy the game). But of course this was ignored and they spent time and money on the MP, when they should have been focusing entirely on the SP game and the <rude word> ending. Whatever else you might thing of Bioware at this moment in time, I can't imagine them putting MP into the game unless they were basically forced to do so by EA. (And, it has to be said that they did a fair job with the MP if the above is true).

In fact I *think* it is fair to think that the problems with ME3 are a direct and indirect result of EA being unable to leave them alone to get on with the job. The ending is unquestionably rushed, and this could only have been a result of someone pushing for an early release date and distracting the developers on trivial matters when they should have been concentrating on more important aspects of the game.

Not that this excuses what we ended up with, nor would it make a 'post it note' tacked on ending tolerable or acceptable. Indeed, Mass Effect 3, and by relation Bioware, has become a joke because of the ending. If they simply do the bare minimum and 'explain' things with post it notes they will loose all credibility as a serious games company - even with people who never played ME3 or in many cases had never heard of Bioware. This is something they would never be able to recover from, certainly not with the shadow SWTOR is casting over their account books....

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Rdubs wrote...This is essentially what that disputed posting by Weekes said happened.  The details he provides are wayyyy too precise for me to believe the whole thing was a spoof.  

Likewise, but it's all speculation now.
But, and please excuse this little personal observation, it's just pure opinion, but when I see Casey Hudson in interviews I get the impression this is someone who always gets his own way, the ending certainly felt like a lack of colaboration on the story.

Oh, and I'm pretty convinced that the talk between Shepard and Anderson was supposed to be the last scene before the credits rolled, the rest was added for some incomprehensible reason.

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Major Swift wrote...

Rdubs wrote...
This is essentially what that disputed posting by Weekes said happened.  The details he provides are wayyyy too precise for me to believe the whole thing was a spoof.  

yea, the details were pretty precise, have trouble believing it was a spoof myself


I think it was real. I think he had to backtrack and claim it wan't him, to keep from getting fired. Now they just want it to go away.

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Major Swift wrote...

Rdubs wrote...
This is essentially what that disputed posting by Weekes said happened.  The details he provides are wayyyy too precise for me to believe the whole thing was a spoof.  

yea, the details were pretty precise, have trouble believing it was a spoof myself


Bingo.  It's far more likely that he posted it legitimately in anger, then thought better of it and tried to get it taken down but was too late.  Bioware found out and instead of firing him which would confirm it, they said just deny it and we'll back you up.  Notice how there is no mention of him saying his account was hacked and no one is concerned an account may have been hacked.  

 It's exactly the same thing that happened a few months ago with congressman Anthony Wiener, he made a tweet he later deleted, people noticed it first, he claimed his account had been hacked but didn't want anyone to investigate it at all, tried to get everyone to stop talking about it, and then finally admitted it was him all along.  

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with regard to whether we should get the ending that we 'want' or should be satisfied with the ending we're given, I invite you to read my post on, among other things, why 'happy' endings should not be rejected simply for being 'happy':

http://social.biowar...ndex/10558220/5

specifically the last paragraph of the OP. it's long, I know, but that is the main message I was hoping to share

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Wish Bioware would be more open to modding Mass Effect, then i could just mod in a proper ending, would help PC users but poor console users(i play it on the PS3) but have a PC copy aswell.

Makes me sad kind of considering not buying anymore Bioware products unless they do us right and fix the end, i know it doesn't matter much but they would be losing oen customer who always buys a PS3 and  PC copy of the game

Modifié par Ghaleon80, 24 mars 2012 - 05:29 .


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 And this is evil...

http://img809.images...375/jokercs.jpg

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Double post  computer was acting up

Modifié par Ghaleon80, 24 mars 2012 - 05:29 .


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TamiBx wrote...

 And this is evil...

http://img809.images...375/jokercs.jpg


Sad... :(

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TamiBx wrote...

 And this is evil...

http://img809.images...375/jokercs.jpg


Oh wow that one is evil. Well, guess Shepard was right, sadly.

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Benathorn wrote...

rizengrad wrote...

Here's a moto booster for you guys:

  <-- Varric tells the story of Commander Shepard


Thats the solution! We get Varric to tell the story then everything will be sunshine and rainbows! Or somewhere along those lines, he tends to exaggerate the details sometimes. ;)


I could deffinently see Varric exagerating Miranda's ASSets in the game...

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Ender99 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 I was watching all the possible DA:O endings and...why couldn't these be ME3 endings? Bioware, why did you do this to us? You made a great game and now...Why?! :crying:


I was expecting an ending like DA:O! I don't understand why they couldn't do it. Or why they didn't.....I just.....terminal overload.


A lot of us were expecting endings like the ones in DA:O. In some ways that just makes this worse. That game proved that Bioware could do multible endings and do them well. So WTF happened?

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Has anyone seen that deleted scene where garrus dies and shepard tells liara to run away when harbinger attacks you at the end of the game? I seriously confused why they removed that.

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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

*snip* 

Excellent idea.  This would be an ending I would be happy to see.  Thank you for the hard work and the thought put into it.

 

aww now you making blush and all... it was not that much... I just free styled that off the top of my head... thank you. 

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Geinen wrote...

Heheheh just in case some people missed this one.

LOL - it's actually worse than that. The ending should be completely disconnected from all the branches. :whistle:

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What will bioware sales look like after this mess? Lots of speculation from everyone...it's not even the normal kind sales figure that you can say A,B,or C but I can't say anymore....

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TamiBx wrote...

 And this is evil...

http://img809.images...375/jokercs.jpg


Yet sadly true, according to the current version of events

Hold the line.

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KaiserinKai wrote...

Ender99 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 I was watching all the possible DA:O endings and...why couldn't these be ME3 endings? Bioware, why did you do this to us? You made a great game and now...Why?! :crying:


I was expecting an ending like DA:O! I don't understand why they couldn't do it. Or why they didn't.....I just.....terminal overload.


A lot of us were expecting endings like the ones in DA:O. In some ways that just makes this worse. That game proved that Bioware could do multible endings and do them well. So WTF happened?

 

Oh  well then let make just a bit worst  - there was PS 1 era  game  called Star Ocean 2... that game had  80 possilbe endings... 80... in the PS 1 error and Bioware can get 16 down.... SMH

#59172
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Alamar2078 wrote...

I wouldn't think that anything would go out on Twitter unless it's been approved by the powers that be though .... right????



Offical announcement would be here........on the website and EA's website - it would then be put around to other news sites and gaming sites......

Unless its offically announced here.......then its just PR -



HOLD THE LINE

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TamiBx wrote...

@Lord Constantino

Thank you! Haha.

@Ender99

Bioware got lazy...can't come up with an explanation besides that one. Or they were rushed...


Ifully believe it was the act of two egomaniacal men, locking themselves in an office with only one intent: End Mass Effect at any cost. These men are cerbral, itellegent, and given to not giving a damn what anyone else thinks. hey are self appointed gods of the pond and that is what we get from the ending.. Thos two men SHOULD be somewhat more than reprimanded. They SHOULD be marked as a danger to any company that chooses to interview them and kept out of the industry. Those two men, by their actions have proven to be little more than an insult to the intellegence of 98% of the population of the wold. hats no an easy fea to accomplush, and makes idiot abroad seem to be pure genius..
The problem Bioware faces is what can they do without spending several millions of dollars corredcting the debacle these two men created.  To them, either spending money, or doing nothing ends up with the same result. Bioware suffers in a major way. Doing nothing is more prudent because with even reduced prices, they will still be able to recoup some of the losses, whereas making a new ending, will simply dig deeper into their profits.  They see a catch 22 with only one way that seems to hold any promise whatsoever, and that is to do nothing at all..

#59174
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LPKerberos wrote...

Hm, am I the only one who thinks that Bioware is not going to change the ending, and is not adding to it, only explain some of the plotholes, and not until it is satisfactional to 89% of the community, and the next headline after DA III will be:

"Bioware has massive sells-breakdown. At the edge of collapse"?

Sure hope not. BioWare has SO much potential to create brilliant games. If they can figure out how to stop aiming the gun at their foot...

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SkaldFish wrote...

LOL - it's actually worse than that. The ending should be completely disconnected from all the branches. :whistle:


lol you are brilliant, you know that?