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[-PG-Skyre]

This
Not so much the Indoc theory stuff, mainly the details at the end.
Generally I'm one to haunt game developers when I think they stuffed up (EVE Onlines micro-transactions, for example)....but I think we got played. A lot of the things people have been hinting at, including what Jess was trying to tell us...I think we fell into a PAX-trap.

The game isn't over yet guys.

[Annaleah]

Ender99 wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

@Lord Constantino

Thank you! Haha.

@Ender99

Bioware got lazy...can't come up with an explanation besides that one. Or they were rushed...

Ifully believe it was the act of two egomaniacal men...<snip/>

Wait -- you mean Rush Limbaugh and Tom Cruise wrote the ending???

That's what must've happened! It would explain a few things woulndn't it?

If Rush wrote the ending then Femshep would have had to die, even in the destroy ending with over 5k EMS, because shes a sl*t for wanting free birth control... even if she only uses it to keep the acne off her face since she sleeps with a turian.

Modifié par Annaleah, 24 mars 2012 - 06:04 .

[silencemayday]

cyrrant wrote...

cyrrant wrote...

Heading out for the night, those endings...I'm going to go get drunk and see if I can forget.

And drinking heavily last night did not make me forget the endings.  Now I have a hangover AND I'm still angry.

that sucks. tried it last week. didn't go so well either. 
you have my sympathy. 

[julian08]

Gardner295 wrote...

I just read there's gonna be another wave of letters on 26th...

Oh, good. I missed the first one.
So, is there anything to keep in mind if you live beyond the big pond? Do we have to send them earlier or something like that?

[soltenshi]

DadeLeviathan wrote...

Check it Out here.

Oh ****. That is written good.
They just didn't give any good thought to the ending. They just cut it when they wan

[chrrue_]

silencemayday wrote...

Ossborn76 wrote...

I don´t know if some other member of the german fleet already posted this, but today the newest edition of the Gamestar magazine was released, including a report about Mass Effect 3 and it´s endings...

The part about this ending is printed in mirror writing (first time ever, I read that magazine for about 9 years now), officially, because there are to many spoilers in the text...

I personally believe, they did this, because they want to avoid a sh.itstorm in their forum or in letters to the editors by this, they think that very few people read this, because this would be far to complicated... who wants to read a magazine through a mirror or scan it and then mirror it with graphic software?

wow. i should have picked it up today.. 
what did they say about the endings? anything in particular or where they stand on the topic? 

Won't buy it anymore, because they were praising the closure the ending would give and a lot of other, not to say lies, untrue things. Maybe Casey added him as a fb-friend for all that bs

[TSC_1]

Let's try to keep politics out of this, folks.

[Ossborn76]

silencemayday wrote..
wow. i should have picked it up today.. 
what did they say about the endings? anything in particular or where they stand on the topic? 

It´s not yet in the store, I got it today because I´m a subscriber... and I didn´t read the report yet, I´m to busy with other things today.

That part of the report was written by Michael Graf, who stated earlier, thet he understands the anger, but that he doesn´t share it...

On another page of the magazine, where all the members of the editorial staff make short comments about games, almost everyone says "Mass Effect is a great game" without mentioning the ending... Two of them didn´t play it and Michael Graf again is the only one saying: I like it, I like even the endings 

[BigglesFlysAgain]

LazarusMP wrote...

ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox     1,066,947
                         PS3         289,941
                         PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox        200,521     -81.2%
                         PS3           57,596     -80.1%
                         PC             24,580     -78.5%


So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

Now that is damming, can you show a comparison for another major release week one and two for Gears or war or Cod?

[NeverQuiteAwake]

LazarusMP wrote...

ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox     1,066,947
                         PS3         289,941
                         PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox        200,521     -81.2%
                         PS3           57,596     -80.1%
                         PC             24,580     -78.5%


So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

Wow. That looks pretty bad. Just out of curiosity, what would the difference normally be for a AAA title from week one to week two?

EDIT: Whoops, what he said ^^^

Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 24 mars 2012 - 06:09 .

[Annaleah]

TSC_1 wrote...

Let's try to keep politics out of this, folks.

Sorry, can't help myself sometimes.

[SkaldFish]

You know, the minute I finished Arrival, I had this terrible feeling that Shepard was going to be dragged kicking and screaming to a choice-free conclusion.

I was wrong, though; Shepard was far too seriously injured to kick or scream.

[Fallenfromthesky]

http://www.oxm.co.uk...uld-end/?page=1

Fun little article I found totally what I think should have happend

[silencemayday]

chrrue_ wrote...
*snip*

Won't buy it anymore, because they were praising the closure the ending would give and a lot of other, not to say lies, untrue things. Maybe Casey added him as a fb-friend for all that bs

Ossborn76 wrote...
*snip*
It´s not yet in the store, I got it today because I´m a subscriber... and I didn´t read the report yet, I´m to busy with other things today.

That part of the report was written by Michael Graf, who stated earlier, thet he understands the anger, but that he doesn´t share it...

On another page of the magazine, where all the members of the editorial staff make short comments about games, almost everyone says "Mass Effect is a great game" without mentioning the ending... Two of them didn´t play it and Michael Graf again is the only one saying: I like it, I like even the endings 

 

ah. kind of figures. 

[KLGChaos]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

This
Not so much the Indoc theory stuff, mainly the details at the end. 
Generally I'm one to haunt game developers when I think they stuffed up (EVE Onlines micro-transactions, for example)....but I think we got played. A lot of the things people have been hinting at, including what Jess was trying to tell us...I think we fell into a PAX-trap. 

The game isn't over yet guys.

I want to believe in the Indoc theory. Heck, going over things during the game (the dreams and such) give me hope. And if it is true, I still don't know what I'm going to make of it. Depends on what Bioware does, I think.

However, even if it is true and the polarizing ending IS the Indoc theory... Bioware hasn't handled the situation all that well. They wanted the ending to be discussed, but I doubt the expected the backlash they did. Years down the road, people will be talking about the ending, but not in the way they hoped. The discussions won't be about the story, but instead about the movement... Or if the Indoc ending is true and they're going to release the real ending via paid DLC, people will be talking about that dangerous move instead. If true, they took a major chance and it backfired.

[cyrrant]

LazarusMP wrote...

ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

<snip>

The numbers don't really mean anything without our ability to compare them.  Such a huge drop may seem precipitous, but remember that there's been a huge push for preorder sales, so it kind of makes sense that week 1 would be bloated.  Further research is required before a consensus is reached...

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

[SkaldFish]

TSC_1 wrote...

Let's try to keep politics out of this, folks.

Sorry -- first two egomaniacs that came to mind. Seriously, I was focusing on the joke opportunity and honestly didn't mean to bring politics in, but should have known better. Apologies to anyone who may have been offended.

[chmarr]

LazarusMP wrote...
ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3
XBox     1,066,947
PS3         289,941
PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3
XBox        200,521     -81.2%                       
PS3           57,596     -80.1%                        
PC             24,580     -78.5%

So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

normally sales drop 40-50% in week 2 but a drop of over 80% nearly across the whole board is bad, also check out the local shops and tell me how many pre-owned are on the dhelves now, 4 gaming shops i know have now stopped taking ME3 for trade-in, not good having a hundred+ in one shop nor is it having a WHOLE rack filled in another (the rack holds max 300  games) get the picture.

seems ME3 is going to die a long prolonged painful death by the look of it.

this is what happens when an ENTIRE script gets fubared by just 2 ppl who wanted it to end in THERE vision and NOT in the ACTUAL vison intended

[LdyBelial]

Good day everyone!!!

Ah -- I gathered as much as I could from this thread since I was here yesterday but it moves FAST!!!  I am sure I have missed stuff!!!

Working on my next update for my blog  -- looking for input from all/any of you.  

I believe the gaming sites talking about how our efforts are winding down, or that we've somehow won should be my primary focus.  

If there is any news on this:  http://www.razoo.com...ry/Full-Paragon  Happy to push it!!!  But I do want it verified as part of the Retake Movement beforehand. 

Any other issues you feel I should be looking closer at?  Let me know!!!

Thanks,
 Lan!

HOLD THE LINE!!!

[Ameno Xiel]

LazarusMP wrote...


ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox     1,066,947
                         PS3         289,941
                         PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox        200,521     -81.2%
                         PS3           57,596     -80.1%
                         PC             24,580     -78.5%


So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

They built the boat, now they shall go down with it. They have no pity coming their way, with how they reacted the last weeks.

[nitefyre410]

LazarusMP wrote...

ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox     1,066,947
                         PS3         289,941
                         PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox        200,521     -81.2%
                         PS3           57,596     -80.1%
                         PC             24,580     -78.5%


So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

 

Ya think, because damn... 80%... yeah   this is getting a lot of attain ...sales numbers like this... EA  is definately taking notice...I'm pretty sure someone is going to tell them to "Whats more important  Artistic Integrity or Job Security"  because  EA put too much money into Bioware for this to happen when the flagship title. 

[chmarr]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

LazarusMP wrote...

ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/
So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

Now that is damming, can you show a comparison for another major release week one and two for Gears or war or Cod?

the sales of gears 3 for the first month only dipped by 20% by the 3rd week, any game that drops more than half in sales in one week shows that theres a massive failing somewhere

[silencemayday]

chmarr wrote...

LazarusMP wrote...
ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3
XBox     1,066,947
PS3         289,941
PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3
XBox        200,521     -81.2%                       
PS3           57,596     -80.1%                        
PC             24,580     -78.5%

So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

normally sales drop 40-50% in week 2 but a drop of over 80% nearly across the whole board is bad, also check out the local shops and tell me how many pre-owned are on the dhelves now, 4 gaming shops i know have now stopped taking ME3 for trade-in, not good having a hundred+ in one shop nor is it having a WHOLE rack filled in another (the rack holds max 300  games) get the picture.

seems ME3 is going to die a long prolonged painful death by the look of it.

this is what happens when an ENTIRE script gets fubared by just 2 ppl who wanted it to end in THERE vision and NOT in the ACTUAL vison intended

if this is true (i have no idea what the sale drop looks like normally) i do really hope that bioware is starting to feel it. it seems like they don't actually seem to care much about everything else that's going on. 

maybe it will get us more than statements that pretty much read like 'we're disappointed in you' and/or 'aww, look, a minority. let me pat you on the head before i shoo you off so that the adults can talk'. 

and yes, sorry. migraine isn't helping with trying to form proper english sentences. 

[Debi-Tage]

Good morning/afternoon/evening all! Just checking in for some line holding!

[chmarr]

nitefyre410 wrote...
Ya think, because damn... 80%... yeah   this is getting a lot of attain ...sales numbers like this... EA  is definately taking notice...I'm pretty sure someone is going to tell them to "Whats more important  Artistic Integrity or Job Security"  because  EA put too much money into Bioware for this to happen when the flagship title. 

actually its more like 

"Whats more important Artistic Integrity or listening to the fans and give them what they REQUESTED and NOT DEMANDED BUT REQUESTED"