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[chmarr]

well they have there fingers in there ears, eyes shut tight as they run around screaming

" LA LA LA NOT LISTENING LA LA LA EVERYTHING IS FINE LA LA LA NOTHING WRONG WITH OUR GAME LA LA LA YOUR ALL WRONG LA LA LA WERE BETTER THAN YOU LA LA LA YOU KNOW WERE RIGHT AND YOUR WRONG LA LA LA"

and in the end there all in the corner crying

[Cybermortis]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...

Its 4:40am and I woke up cause of a damn thought about the ME3 end. Here is food for thought; Bioware said ME3 would answer our questions, or more importantly, the end...but here is the thing, what if they consider an expansion PART of ME3? Hallucination, Indoc theory, whichever you choose...we all know ME3 seems a bit...short...when compared to the previous Mass Effect games. What if we haven't actually finished it yet?

Just thinking...maybe we just reacted faster than BioWare anticipated. Perhaps they thought they'd have enough time to release the rest. It would also explain why they are so adamant about keeping the end of the game the way it is.

The end still sucks and I want answers, but still, food for thought.
Now hopefully I can go to sleep and NOT think about the damn ending xD

Later guys'n'gals, enjoy yourselves.

But then that would mean they released us an incomplete game

I would've rather they delayed production than release us this on purpose.

This was more or less what the Forbes guys were speculating yesterday.

The gist of what they thought was that the original idea had been to release the 'full' ending of the game as a DLC (most likely a free one) after the game had been released world-wide. What they didn't expect was for their to be so much backlash, which made announcing that there was an ending DLC in the works problimatic.
Basically the idea was that the rumour about 'The Truth' DLC was in fact correct - although that was never brought up. Basically it was meant to be a PR/marketing stunt than badly backfired.

This WAS pure speculation on their part - and I will note that they have no better idea what Bioware has in mind than we do at this point. But they felt that this would make sense on several levels. They even gave a reasonable explination as to why Bioware wouldn't make any statements about such a DLC (if it existed) at this time.

The alternative is, of course, that Bioware has screwed things up so badly they have not so much dropped the ball. But Dropped it, kicked it into their own goal, stuck a spike through it and then for good measure driven a steam roller over it.

[Iucounou]

LazarusMP wrote...

ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox     1,066,947
                         PS3         289,941
                         PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox        200,521     -81.2%
                         PS3           57,596     -80.1%
                         PC             24,580     -78.5%


So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

The figures are quite damning. Don't forget ME3 was released on what, the 6th? So that first week of sales is based on just four days of retail. Not a full week, in other words. So the second week's results are even worse in that light.

[LadyMarisa]

Debi-Tage wrote...


I was hoping a new charitable cause would get supported by this wonderful group of people - I had a fleeting idea about crayola or something - but I was afraid the humor would be lost in this volatile situation!

Kudos!

The problem is the last time we did something for charity in conjuction with this movement, the perception was that we were hijacking the charity to lend credibility to our cause. I get the feeling that any charity we tried to promote now will be misconstrued. I know we still want to show the movement is still doing good things but I think it would be better to share individual contributions about various charities important to movement members. Child'sPlay was fitting because it's a gaming related charity so I still suggest people should donate to that. As for any other charities, go for it. Tell us about it, ask people to donate if they agree with the charity's cause etc. We can still publicize that movement members are still doing charitable deeds.

[Enichan]

Wow those sales figures are depressing. I hope ME isn't labelled a lost cause before anyone can do anything.

[-PG-Skyre]

Indoc theory guys, a thought for you...Say Shepard was knocked out, what if your team drags you back to the Normandy and you're on it when it crashes on that planet?...

[sergeym1990]

Still total sales look better than me2.. so I'm not sure it will cause any problems oft them.

[LdyBelial]

LazarusMP wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

LazarusMP wrote...

ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox     1,066,947
                         PS3         289,941
                         PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox        200,521     -81.2%
                         PS3           57,596     -80.1%
                         PC             24,580     -78.5%


So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

Now that is damming, can you show a comparison for another major release week one and two for Gears or war or Cod?

ME2 XBox www.vgchartz.com/game/28815/mass-effect-2/USA/

Week Ending                 Week          Weekly       Change          Total
30th January 2010           1             568,831            N/A           568,831
06th February 2010          2            139,889       -75.4%          708,720
13th February 2010          3               85,809       -38.7%         794,529
20th February 2010          4               48,231       -43.8%          842,760
27th February 2010          5               28,789        -40.3%         871,549

PS3  www.vgchartz.com/game/46825/mass-effect-2/USA/

Week Ending              Week             Weekly          Change          Total
22nd January 2011        1                 43,616            N/A              43,616
29th January 2011          2                 25,879         -40.7%         69,495
05th February 2011        3                 20,777          -19.7%         90,272
12th February 2011        4                 15,803          -23.9%       106,075
19th February 2011        5                 12,899          -18.4%       118,974

PC  www.vgchartz.com/game/28816/mass-effect-2/Global/

Week Ending               Week           Weekly           Change          Total
30th January 2010          1               36,691              N/A            36,691
06th February 2010         2              10,982            -70.1%        47,673
13th February 2010         3                4,639            -57.8%        52,312
20th February 2010         4                1,783            -61.6%         54,095
27th February 2010         5                 3,901           118.8%         57,996

Dragon Age: Origins XBox  www.vgchartz.com/game/33505/dragon-age-origins/USA/

Week EndingWeekWeeklyChangeTotal
07th November 20091206,945N/A206,945
14th November 20092112,629-45.6%319,574
21st November 2009360,367-46.4%379,941
28th November 2009490,89750.6%470,838
05th December 2009565,149-28.3%535,987

PS3 www.vgchartz.com/game/33502/dragon-age-origins/USA/

Week EndingWeekWeeklyChangeTotal
07th November 2009196,034N/A96,034
14th November 2009249,732-48.2%145,766
21st November 2009336,395-26.8%182,161
28th November 2009443,74620.2%225,907
05th December 2009531,220-28.6%257,127

PC  www.vgchartz.com/game/33504/dragon-age-origins/Global/

Week EndingWeekWeeklyChangeTotal
07th November 2009145,101N/A45,101
14th November 2009217,365-61.5%62,466
21st November 2009314,741-15.1%77,207
28th November 2009415,7677.0%92,974
05th December 2009518,66018.3%111,634

Anyone able to do an analysis on this kind of thing?  I don't really understand what I am looking at...  This would be a great addition to my articles!!  But if I can't talk about it knowledgably I might as well not bring it up at all.  

Help to understand this please?

Lan

[nitefyre410]

Iucounou wrote...

LazarusMP wrote...

ME3 Sales numbers from www.vgchartz.com/

USA Sales Week Ending March 10 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40979/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox     1,066,947
                         PS3         289,941
                         PC           114,492

USA Sales Week Ending March 17 www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/USA/

Mass Effect 3 XBox        200,521     -81.2%
                         PS3           57,596     -80.1%
                         PC             24,580     -78.5%


So... An across all platforms 80% drop in sales from week 1 to week 2 of one of the biggest AAA titles of the year.   I think that's being noticed...

The figures are quite damning. Don't forget ME3 was released on what, the 6th? So that first week of sales is based on just four days of retail. Not a full week, in other words. So the second week's results are even worse in that light.

 

maybe we can you know send these to a our good buddies at  Forbes see what the business minds over there think  about... 

Playing to win 

and hold the win 

[DJBare]

chmarr wrote...
uk sales figures of week !
Mass Effect 3 (X360) = 149,460
Mass Effect 3 (PS3) = 36,939
Mass Effect 3 (PC) = 18,424
uk sales figures week 2
Mass Effect 3 (X360) = 37,924
Mass Effect 3 (PS3) = 12,437
Mass Effect 3 (PC) = 3,607
these figures are like.................wow ouch

Those figures are not really a surprize since neither GAME or GameStation were able to fullfill the orders

[fade2black2610]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

Indoc theory guys, a thought for you...Say Shepard was knocked out, what if your team drags you back to the Normandy and you're on it when it crashes on that planet?...

Verrrrrrrrry interesting. Could be an idea.

[nitefyre410]

LdyBelial wrote...

*snip* Anyone able to do an analysis on this kind of thing?  I don't really understand what I am looking at...  This would be a great addition to my articles!!  But if I can't talk about it knowledgably I might as well not bring it up at all.  

Help to understand this please?

Lan

 

Its a week  by week break down  of the sales numbers for ME 2 and DA:O for  a month... when you see a minus  in front of the percentage thats how much sales drop for that week.  

Modifié par nitefyre410, 24 mars 2012 - 06:45 .

[Iucounou]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Iucounou wrote...

The figures are quite damning. Don't forget ME3 was released on what, the 6th? So that first week of sales is based on just four days of retail. Not a full week, in other words. So the second week's results are even worse in that light.

 

maybe we can you know send these to a our good buddies at  Forbes see what the business minds over there think  about...

I'm pretty sure the Forbes guys will be all over this. They seem to be following this saga with great fascination.

[VyseN1]

Wow at the sharp decline in sales figures. That must get their attention. Holding the line.

[LdyBelial]

nitefyre410 wrote...

-snip-

maybe we can you know send these to a our good buddies at  Forbes see what the business minds over there think  about... 

Playing to win 

and hold the win 

That's a really smart idea!!  Kudos to you!!!

[soltenshi]

Enichan wrote...

Wow those sales figures are depressing. I hope ME isn't labelled a lost cause before anyone can do anything.

That's it. That's the point. "Taking time" is not bad for us, but bad for the developers/distributors. Well, it is also bad for us if never get what we hoped for..
Anyway, now they really, as some1 wrote already, "put themselves into a corner".
And there's absolutely zero use in approving theselves now, as Hudson does. This is ****in market-economy.

[LdyBelial]

nitefyre410 wrote...
--snip--

Its a week  by week break down  of the sales numbers for ME 2 and DA:O for  a month... when you see a minus  in front of the percentage thats how much sales drop for that week.  

But is there some kind of formula for this kind of thing?  Something that breaks it down to where they should be at?  I know when I am really into a game I pre-order it.  I am guessing that ME has a pretty loyal fanbase considering..  ::Looks around... grins.::  So what would the typical breakdown from the first week look like if the game was a HUGE success? 

The numbers may still have dropped in that second week of sales, yeah?  I don't know...  I am lost on this topic...

Lan

[soltenshi]

nitefyre410 wrote...

LdyBelial wrote...

*snip* Anyone able to do an analysis on this kind of thing?  I don't really understand what I am looking at...  This would be a great addition to my articles!!  But if I can't talk about it knowledgably I might as well not bring it up at all.  

Help to understand this please?

Lan

 

Its a week  by week break down  of the sales numbers for ME 2 and DA:O for  a month... when you see a minus  in front of the percentage thats how much sales drop for that week.  

Lady meant she'd like to have some results after analisys already done

[KaiserinKai]

Geinen wrote...

chmarr wrote...

normally sales drop 40-50% in week 2 but a drop of over 80% nearly across the whole board is bad, also check out the local shops and tell me how many pre-owned are on the dhelves now, 4 gaming shops i know have now stopped taking ME3 for trade-in, not good having a hundred+ in one shop nor is it having a WHOLE rack filled in another (the rack holds max 300  games) get the picture.

seems ME3 is going to die a long prolonged painful death by the look of it.

this is what happens when an ENTIRE script gets fubared by just 2 ppl who wanted it to end in THERE vision and NOT in the ACTUAL vison intended

The sales figures didnt impress me as much as this did.  When stores actually stop taking it back for trade in, especially so early, thats bad.

lol wow.

I'll say, I couldn't find a used copy of Skyrim months after release... it's just sad.

Why did Bioware have to do this...

[Iucounou]

Iucounou wrote...

The figures are quite damning. Don't forget ME3 was released on what, the 6th? So that first week of sales is based on just four days of retail. Not a full week, in other words. So the second week's results are even worse in that light.

Actually, forget what I said there. I'm having a dumb moment. I forgot a lot of that first week's sales would have been from pre-orders.

[-PG-Skyre]

fade2black2610 wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...

Indoc theory guys, a thought for you...Say Shepard was knocked out, what if your team drags you back to the Normandy and you're on it when it crashes on that planet?...

Verrrrrrrrry interesting. Could be an idea.

I was thinking, perhaps the war with the Reapers isnt over. Perhaps Shepard wakes on the planet and we have to start from there...or any number of other possibilities...such as perhaps this is the basis of the next Mass Effect series. Shepard wakes up on that planet and they start from the "dark ages" of technology...the next series could then be Shepards decendants...

[soltenshi]

Iucounou wrote...

Iucounou wrote...

The figures are quite damning. Don't forget ME3 was released on what, the 6th? So that first week of sales is based on just four days of retail. Not a full week, in other words. So the second week's results are even worse in that light.

Actually, forget what I said there. I'm having a dumb moment. I forgot a lot of that first week's sales would have been from pre-orders.

Returns - are the most noticable part.

[Fallenfromthesky]

Iucounou wrote...

Iucounou wrote...

The figures are quite damning. Don't forget ME3 was released on what, the 6th? So that first week of sales is based on just four days of retail. Not a full week, in other words. So the second week's results are even worse in that light.

Actually, forget what I said there. I'm having a dumb moment. I forgot a lot of that first week's sales would have been from pre-orders.

I'm sure thats a valid point as I wouldn't imagine the sale is recorded until the unit is distrabuted and payment has been recived even if a deposit has been made

[Jorojr]

I get the feeling there will be a statement about how many units have been shipped. Units shipped != units sold.

[-PG-Skyre]

Cybermortis wrote...

This was more or less what the Forbes guys were speculating yesterday.

The gist of what they thought was that the original idea had been to release the 'full' ending of the game as a DLC (most likely a free one) after the game had been released world-wide. What they didn't expect was for their to be so much backlash, which made announcing that there was an ending DLC in the works problimatic.
Basically the idea was that the rumour about 'The Truth' DLC was in fact correct - although that was never brought up. Basically it was meant to be a PR/marketing stunt than badly backfired.

This WAS pure speculation on their part - and I will note that they have no better idea what Bioware has in mind than we do at this point. But they felt that this would make sense on several levels. They even gave a reasonable explination as to why Bioware wouldn't make any statements about such a DLC (if it existed) at this time.

The alternative is, of course, that Bioware has screwed things up so badly they have not so much dropped the ball. But Dropped it, kicked it into their own goal, stuck a spike through it and then for good measure driven a steam roller over it.

I was certain they had screwed up...but after re-evaluating the situation and looking back on everything we were told...or they tried to tell us...it adds up. And this means the media is watching BioWare. So if they do release the ending at PAX, then we've just given them a huge amount of free advertising.

I think I just got outsmarted by BioWare...not impressed.