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[toffeetrooper]

its sat night peple are out

not me though dad duties

[Cybermortis]

SkaldFish wrote...

Imagine buying a new refrigerator that leaks all over the floor the first time you use the filtered water dispenser. You call the company and speak to a customer rep:

YOU: My new refrigerator is leaking all over the floor.
REP: Hmmm... Are you sure it's leaking all over the floor? [giggles]
YOU: Well... yes, of course I'm sure. There's water all over the place, and it's coming from the refrigerator.
REP: Hmmm... Are you sure it's coming from the refrigerator? [sniggers]
YOU: OF COURSE I'M SURE!
REP: Well, you might just want to consider leaving that water on the floor until April.
YOU: What???
REP: Well, let me just say that all of us here are leaving our water on the floor until April.
YOU: I don't understand... I can't leave water on the floor for weeks! That's crazy! This needs to be fixed!
REP: That's really all I can say right now. Goodbye.

I can beat that with a real world example. This really happened.

Years ago, when I was young and full of joy* I got dragged out while my Mother went shopping for a wardrobe. She looked around, found one she liked and could afford and talked to the sales rep. The conversation went something like this;

Rep; So, we can deliver the wardrobe next week, and the doors three or four weeks later.

*Long pause*

Mother; Sorry, what?

Rep; We'll have the wardrobe to you next week and the doors three weeks later.

*Another long pause*

Mother; You are selling the wardrobes, but not the doors?

Rep; No, we're selling both we just don't have the doors in stock right now.

*More silence*

Mother; What use is a wardrobe without doors? Why can't I just buy the display model over there, it has the doors on?

Rep; Well, yes but its the display model. *weak laughter* We wouldn't sell many units if the display model didn't have doors on it would we? *laughter tails off*
 
Mother; And, out of interest, how many people have bought those wardrobes when you can't deliver the doors for three weeks?

Rep; Errm *mutters* none.

Mother; One less, bye....

(*And for the record I am now old and cynical. Haven't quite got around to waving my cane at kids and shouting at them...but give me time...)

[soltenshi]

RussianOrc wrote...

This thread is getting slow...
Come on people HOLD THE ****ING LINE!!

we'll hold it. the game deserves better.

[Fallenfromthesky]

RussianOrc wrote...

This thread is getting slow...
Come on people HOLD THE ****ING LINE!!

This thread is only getting slow because its the weekend and no new news. I gauentee that the thread will pick up on monday and when PAX is over this thread will explode with news

[Kyria Nyriese]

_________________________________________
Line Holding here

[Sable Phoenix]

Debi-Tage wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

Interesting quote from this (pre-release) interview with Mac Walters:

"...between Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3, one of the
things I looked at was -- I don't know if I'd call it the writing, but the
cinematic style and delivery of Uncharted 2 really drew my eye. I look
at that and say, 'Wow, those are some very compelling people.' I'm happy
to sit there and watch what's going on in that scene -- I don't even need
interactivity in that scene because it's so well done." - Mac Walters (emphasis mine)

Yeah, who needs silly ol' interactivity in an interactive game? And there you have it.

Its like all the prelease quotes from the devs foreshadow everything...Casey implying that the entire ME3 storyline, WAS your Sheps "ending" whilst slowly taking away the dialog options. After that point (the London scene??) who cares...let's come up with whatever we want now that player agency is wrapped up!

...hey, lets go set it up for our next franchise!

I want to go back in time and shake them!!! 

This is incredibly damning.

Not surprising, in retrospect.  But damning nonetheless.

[Spartas Husky]

What else is there to say?. This has become mostly, a chat thread.They know what it is. No amount of words will do more damage and dropping sales. .

dropping sales is our trophy. In yo face EA, and up urs Bioware for having sold urselfs.

[Searchnresq]

SkaldFish wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

I agree with you about the hostility; that doesn't get us anywhere, and has already cost us more than we might want to admit. But IF there was a plan for a second-wave "here's what really happened" stunt, my mind will be officially blown if no one at BioWare realized that leading players to believe this was the one-and-only ending was going to cause explosive and damaging blowback.

Imagine buying a new refrigerator that leaks all over the floor the first time you use the filtered water dispenser. You call the company and speak to a customer rep:

YOU: My new refrigerator is leaking all over the floor.
REP: Hmmm... Are you sure it's leaking all over the floor? [giggles]
YOU: Well... yes, of course I'm sure. There's water all over the place, and it's coming from the refrigerator.
REP: Hmmm... Are you sure it's coming from the refrigerator? [sniggers]
YOU: OF COURSE I'M SURE!
REP: Well, you might just want to consider leaving that water on the floor until April.
YOU: What???
REP: Well, let me just say that all of us here are leaving our water on the floor until April.
YOU: I don't understand... I can't leave water on the floor for weeks! That's crazy! This needs to be fixed!
REP: That's really all I can say right now. Goodbye.

ROFL!!! I just spit coffee all over my monitor!!

You might want to leave that coffee on your monitor until April, BTW...<_<

LOL!!

I nearly soiled myself!!

and, no WAY!! am i waiting till April before I clean myself up!

[bowery tuff]

Ok, so Geoff Keighley is answering questions in another thread (Chris has confirmed that it's him) and he posted this.

John385 - Thanks for reading. Yes, the plan is to write a new chapter that addresses the fan feedback and how BioWare is responding. It would be a free update. The Portal story was updated with a new chapter on the DLC for free.

EDIT: Nevermind. He's talking about the app. Damn.

Modifié par bowery tuff, 24 mars 2012 - 08:26 .

[Gi-Joe-Ge]

chmarr wrote...

bioware releases ME3 with an ending like the one we have i feel was DILIBIRATE, they knew PAX was coming up and they wanted the fans to ensure they played the game fully.

what bioware DID NOT expect was the fans to finish the game so fast...i mean some people finished the game in UNDER 24 hours and since then the "retake Mass Effect" started off.

(...a lot of interesting stuff)

Very well written. As I wrote earlier today, although I am irritated by BioWare right now, there is still hope that the theory you have summed up so well is actually how things will turn out in the end.

Why?

Because I can't believe that the same company that made the fabulous ME trilogy screws things up that badly in the last 10 minutes.

But you never know, economic interestest may had taken precedence (which now may be called "artistic integrity") over rationality and efforts to bring the trilogy to a satisfying end.

Modifié par Gi-Joe-Ge, 24 mars 2012 - 08:41 .

[Kapina]

Still some finnish people holding the line aswell.

[Cyan-Glow]

This made my day!

Sorry if it's been posted before, but well-worth the watch.

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Modifié par Cyan-Glow, 24 mars 2012 - 08:26 .

[chmarr]

i held the line but i got hit by a sexual harassment suit

[SkaldFish]

Cybermortis wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

Imagine buying a new refrigerator that leaks all over the floor the first time you use the filtered water dispenser. You call the company and speak to a customer rep:

YOU: My new refrigerator is leaking all over the floor.
REP: Hmmm... Are you sure it's leaking all over the floor? [giggles]
YOU: Well... yes, of course I'm sure. There's water all over the place, and it's coming from the refrigerator.
REP: Hmmm... Are you sure it's coming from the refrigerator? [sniggers]
YOU: OF COURSE I'M SURE!
REP: Well, you might just want to consider leaving that water on the floor until April.
YOU: What???
REP: Well, let me just say that all of us here are leaving our water on the floor until April.
YOU: I don't understand... I can't leave water on the floor for weeks! That's crazy! This needs to be fixed!
REP: That's really all I can say right now. Goodbye.

I can beat that with a real world example. This really happened.

Years ago, when I was young and full of joy* I got dragged out while my Mother went shopping for a wardrobe. She looked around, found one she liked and could afford and talked to the sales rep. The conversation went something like this;

Rep; So, we can deliver the wardrobe next week, and the doors three or four weeks later.

*Long pause*

Mother; Sorry, what?

Rep; We'll have the wardrobe to you next week and the doors three weeks later.

*Another long pause*

Mother; You are selling the wardrobes, but not the doors?

Rep; No, we're selling both we just don't have the doors in stock right now.

*More silence*

Mother; What use is a wardrobe without doors? Why can't I just buy the display model over there, it has the doors on?

Rep; Well, yes but its the display model. *weak laughter* We wouldn't sell many units if the display model didn't have doors on it would we? *laughter tails off*
 
Mother; And, out of interest, how many people have bought those wardrobes when you can't deliver the doors for three weeks?

Rep; Errm *mutters* none.

Mother; One less, bye....

(*And for the record I am now old and cynical. Haven't quite got around to waving my cane at kids and shouting at them...but give me time...)

LOL - That's great! At least she found out before she bought it...

[zalfy]

So "allegedly" Casey and Mac were the ONLY 2 to write the ending for the game.....would make ALOT of sense. But like I said..."Allegedly"

http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/ 

Modifié par zalfy, 24 mars 2012 - 08:28 .

[chrrue_]

RussianOrc wrote...

This thread is getting slow...
Come on people HOLD THE ****ING LINE!!

It's saturday night in europe
I'm off to a bar now, trying to forget that ME3 mess for a while

[chujwamdotego]

RussianOrc wrote...

This thread is getting slow...
Come on people HOLD THE ****ING LINE!!

Aye, aye. Line intact, not to worry.

Just grabing some R&R before sh*tstorm

[Cybermortis]

bowery tuff wrote...

Ok, so Geoff Keighley is answering questions in another thread (Chris has confirmed that it's him) and he posted this.

John385 - Thanks for reading. Yes, the plan is to write a new chapter that addresses the fan feedback and how BioWare is responding. It would be a free update. The Portal story was updated with a new chapter on the DLC for free.

EDIT: Nevermind. He's talking about the app. Damn.

Reposting in case anyone missed this.

[RussianOrc]

You guys should see this http://www.escapistm...gon-Age-2-Sales
This might be the fate of Mass Effect 3 if bioware don't fix this ending.

Modifié par RussianOrc, 24 mars 2012 - 08:30 .

[Seival]

RussianOrc wrote...

http://jmstevenson.w...-mass-effect-3/
This, so much this!

BioWare should read this...

The only thing I disagree with in that review is that the bad ending alone will be good. I expect to see a variety of endings, depending on your previous actions. So, pure happy ending should be also included among all others.

Modifié par Seival, 24 mars 2012 - 08:33 .

[silencemayday]

toffeetrooper wrote...

its sat night peple are out

not me though dad duties

hell, i'd be out drinking too. 

if i still had any friends that wouldn't mind me talking about mass effect the whole evening. 
most of them seem to have very convenient plans till all of this blows over. 

can't say i blame them. i do actually feel like a broken record at the moment. 
it only gets worse when i drink. 

[-PG-Skyre]

bowery tuff wrote...

Ok, so Geoff Keighley is answering questions in another thread (Chris has confirmed that it's him) and he posted this.

John385 - Thanks for reading. Yes, the plan is to write a new chapter that addresses the fan feedback and how BioWare is responding. It would be a free update. The Portal story was updated with a new chapter on the DLC for free.

EDIT: Nevermind. He's talking about the app. Damn.

Made the interesting part bold...DLC

[VonVerrikan]

I really really love this franchise, so seeing the sales take such a kicking is nothing short of depressing.

Does anyone know if that would make them even more focused on making more money off DLC content? It stands to reason it might. And if so, it would make sense for them to make us Retake folks happy so we actually buy the stupid DLC.

[-PG-Skyre]

silencemayday wrote...

hell, i'd be out drinking too. 

if i still had any friends that wouldn't mind me talking about mass effect the whole evening. 
most of them seem to have very convenient plans till all of this blows over. 

can't say i blame them. i do actually feel like a broken record at the moment. 
it only gets worse when i drink. 

Ahem...arent you meant to be copying and pasting stuff onto tumblr?

[Zered]

This is quite the tragedy. Bioware won't do changes that will appease the fans due to their 'artistic integrity' crap and their own ego's and they WILL lose thousands of fans that would normally pre-order games and support them no matter what. On the other hand fans will be disappointed because they will feel betrayed by Bioware(and they will be right on this). Betraying those who love you is a thing you don't forget.

In the end I know where my money will go...