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#59426
Robhuzz

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Seival wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

http://jmstevenson.w...-mass-effect-3/
This, so much this!


BioWare should read this...

The only thing I disagree with in that review is that the bad ending alone will be good. I expect to see a variety of endings, depending on your previous actions. So, pure happy ending should be also included among all others.


This is seriously the best blog about the ME3 ending that I've read so far. I cannot agree more with this writer. Apart from the point where he basically says ME3 HAS to have a sad ending where Shepard and crew HAVE to die. I do not agree with this at all. ME has always been about choice so there should have definitely been a way to get a 'good' or 'happy' ending where Shepard and crew survive. Other than that. Excellent read. Seriously EVERYONE who is even remotely familiar with ME3 should see this.

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ld1449 wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Phew.. Arguing against those defending the Catalysts logic is hard work. Has there actually been any news today?


Where are these elusive Catalyst defenders??? I have yet to see one of the rare creatures in person


I suppose you might find one over at ign comments, just be sure not to step on its' hairy tail and do not get bitten, it seems their saliva is infectious.

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Cybermortis

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ld1449 wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Phew.. Arguing against those defending the Catalysts logic is hard work. Has there actually been any news today?


Where are these elusive Catalyst defenders??? I have yet to see one of the rare creatures in person


I've heard that they are like the Yeti - plenty of stories about them but no concrete evidence that they really exist. ;)

#59429
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SSV Houston holding the line.

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Atrocity wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Phew.. Arguing against those defending the Catalysts logic is hard work. Has there actually been any news today?


Where are these elusive Catalyst defenders??? I have yet to see one of the rare creatures in person


I suppose you might find one over at ign comments, just be sure not to step on its' hairy tail and do not get bitten, it seems their saliva is infectious.


*Grabs sword*

I'll be back shortly.

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Looks like Destin Legarie feels our pain.
 : uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/1221492p1.html 
 

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chmarr wrote...

bioware releases ME3 with an ending like the one we have i feel was DILIBIRATE, they knew PAX was coming up and they wanted the fans to ensure they played the game fully.

what bioware DID NOT expect was the fans to finish the game so fast...i mean some people finished the game in UNDER 24 hours and since then the "retake Mass Effect" started off.

the reason bioware said nothing is that they had this planned but NOT this soon, so bioware has NOT comented on anything except to back up there sh*tty ending, not SOME staff have actually said that the ending we have IS the ending but left so many plot holes even the newcomers to the ME universe spotted them.
it was found that all version across the platforms had the day one DLC ON DISC and was proven

after a few days of the RME was in full swing, smaller media outlets were reporting on the ending and yet bioware did not comment or were hyper cryptic in replies.
some mid-line news sites started to report on the ending and again bioware did not say anything, THEN in this same week the childs play charity fund raiser started and then the chit hit the fan

a few days after that mainstream news WORLDWIDE TELEVISION reported on the debacle of ME3 and thats when one of bioware's co-founders released a press release which critisied the fans for picking the game apart using "artistic integrity" which was then ripped apart by other game developers, real media artists and even artists from art schools all called him on his bullsh*t

we have been told since the 9Th of march that bioware would not release ANY details of DLC untill april.


which takes us to FORBES, oh yes forbes a TRUSTED WORLD WIDE BUISINESS website made reports on ME3, the chit hit the fan hard qand well bioware since that happend have PARTLY confirmed "THE TRUTH" DLC (well they dident name it yet but we call it this)

its THIS DLC which has me REALLY intrested, its like bioware had planned for this the WHOLE time, WE THE FANS all came up with the plot holes which are obvious, we have fans at each others throats BUT in the end we all came togeather and started to fight the good fight.

now biowares co-founder kept shoving "but we have 75 reviews saying they loved the game and thought it was great" what we ALL found out by sending emails to the reviewers or sending tweets to them was this, ALL of them NEVER FINISHED THE GAME, NONE OF THEM knew about the ending and SOME actually retracted there game score.

the co-founder then based that ME3 had HIGH metacritic scores which since our requests were posted the metacritic scores have been dropping.

now onto tweets.
there have been a TON of tweets put on #masseffect that have basicly written off what the co-founder said and have also belittled the fans, some tweets from other people calling us "entitled brats who threw there toys out the pram" and thats the NICEST one.

but then those tweets are then deleted by there own staff for obvious reasons.

were being played with by bioware and there PR staff, i think were being abused for publicity and i can BET that EA will HIRE FAKE PROTESTERS (like they recently did do) and make us look bad.

at PAX i bet they announce the VERY DLC we have been talking about and which they DENIED and they have refused point blank to engage us in a chat, they ALL kept saying "not untill april" and april we all know is PAX and there 2 hour panel slot was halved to one hour, the 2nd hour was supposed to have been a Q & A with the fans but due to the vast amount of bad press and massivle declining sales world wide and the trouble they will get from fans they removed it.

the knock on effect of all of the above has also affected biowares parent company Electroinc Arts (EA) stock market prices (there stock dropped 9 points which is in fact the worst thing to happen).

so from now to april 5th we are being ignored by bioware, ignored by there PR team, ignored and belittled by the founders, belittled by one of the lead writers, ignored by there own help staff and to top it all off finding out that the lead writer and a friend rewrote the entire game which delayed the release at HUGE cost to EA.

the game was in fact ready for december but due to greed they removed missions and an essental part of the game only to sell it as day one dlc which was already on the disc.

using multiplayer to increase EMS is just retarded, 50% all the time you always lose way more than you should at 100%.

so yeah were getting bent over and reciving the meatlog up the rectum treament were being used and abused by a company we trusted but not now

if the ending they gave us was a prelude to DLC then they should have put

"TO BE CONTINUED"

THAT way we would have went batchit crazy waiting for the dlc and none of the negative news would have happend

When their sales drop and they get pink slips we will see who are the cry babies

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Oh don't worry, we all apparently want this ending, it's just it isn't "clarified" enough, we must pay EA/Bioware to tell us how great it really is.

Modifié par The_Crazy_Hand, 24 mars 2012 - 08:59 .


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Doppelgaenger wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Phew.. Arguing against those defending the Catalysts logic is hard work. Has there actually been any news today?


Besides that people start to compare the ending to twilight? ... none.


Oh god. There's nothing more on this earth that I hate more than Twilight D:


ld1449 wrote...

Where are these elusive Catalyst defenders??? I have yet to see one of the rare creatures in person

 

Not a thread. Talking to a friend, who is an idiot.

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ld1449 wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

*snip*

I suppose you might find one over at ign comments, just be sure not to step on its' hairy tail and do not get bitten, it seems their saliva is infectious.


*Grabs sword*

I'll be back shortly.


was i the only one that just imagined a cutscene in which duncan battles some strange yeti/darkspawn/vent brat creatures?
yes? okay, time to lay off the booze. 

ah yes. back to copying and pasteing. my eyes are close to bleeding. only on page 280 however.. 

#59436
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I''m sorry, but knowing what we know know...heh, Casey linked to this article via Twitter on February 17th...

http://io9.com/58861...-our-generation

...really!?

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Cybermortis wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Phew.. Arguing against those defending the Catalysts logic is hard work. Has there actually been any news today?


Where are these elusive Catalyst defenders??? I have yet to see one of the rare creatures in person


I've heard that they are like the Yeti - plenty of stories about them but no concrete evidence that they really exist. ;)


I thought I saw one a couple weeks ago... turned out they just hadn't finished the game yet.  Image IPB

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almade wrote...

http://www.gamezone....-claims-victory

so every body should twitter, blog, link and facebook post about retake mass effect n'till its done

Victory?who the hell is speaking on our behalf?i see no victory yet.

#59439
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almade wrote...

http://www.gamezone....-claims-victory

so every body should twitter, blog, link and facebook post about retake mass effect n'till its done


What the hell?  We are far from victorious at this point.  All we're getting is an opportunity to give EA/Bioware our money for DLC that makes excuses but doesn't fix anything.

#59440
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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Phew.. Arguing against those defending the Catalysts logic is hard work. Has there actually been any news today?


There are actually people trying to defend that illogical rubbish? Faith in humanity is now completely lost. 

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RussianOrc wrote...

almade wrote...

been studying for some days now, can any one fill me in on what has happed, i heard rumors that they will change the ending, true??

Fake (they've said "game content initiatives that will help answer the questions")


This

Or as in here

We
are aware that there are concerns about a recent post from this account
regarding the ending of the game. In this post it was stated that at
this time we do not have plans to change the ending.

We would
like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player
feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out. At this time we
are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a
decision regarding requests to change the ending.

Your feedback
and opinions are of the utmost importance to us. We apologize for any
confusion this has caused. Our top priority regarding this discussion is
to keep communication with you, our loyal fans, open and productive.



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 If Bioware's ultimate plan was to spring an addendum DLC on us and have us go "I see what you did there!", I don't think they were expecting such a... passionate (or negative) response from some of us.

I'm reminded of the ending to FF13-2. That pulled a WTF?! ending but they had the balls to put "to be continued" after the credits; stating outright that there was more to come.
Yes some people were miffed that "Oh noes they're going to charge us for the ending" but because Square-Enix had categorically told them that the story was going to be continued, did we see a full on krogan battle charge against the game's ending? Not that I'm aware of.
After the initial "paid DLC ending" outrage, fans chilled out and are patiently waiting. Some fans will be lost because they disagree with the principle of the thing but AT LEAST THEY WERE TOLD IT WOULD HAPPEN.

Which is more than I can say for us (whether Bioware planned for ending DLC or not).

Modifié par captainsavvy, 24 mars 2012 - 09:07 .


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Debi-Tage wrote...

I''m sorry, but knowing what we know know...heh, Casey linked to this article via Twitter on February 17th...

http://io9.com/58861...-our-generation

...really!?


I guess that means the retake movement is Casey's Nemesis?

Modifié par Doppelgaenger, 24 mars 2012 - 09:06 .


#59444
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silencemayday wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

*Grabs sword*

I'll be back shortly.


was i the only one that just imagined a cutscene in which duncan battles some strange yeti/darkspawn/vent brat creatures?
yes? okay, time to lay off the booze. 

ah yes. back to copying and pasteing. my eyes are close to bleeding. only on page 280 however.. 


Nope, I have this nice image of Duncan running little hairy internet-pyjaks, who keep saying things like 'the ending was really deep u just 2 stupid to get it whiners' or 'i really don't see why people hate twilight', through.

Good that he has an armour though, I wasn't kidding about the saliva, it's dangerous s***, once the infection enters blood-stream, there's nothing to do but to ask your comrades to end your pain swiftly. Might also be corrosive, haven't tested that yet.

#59445
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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Phew.. Arguing against those defending the Catalysts logic is hard work. Has there actually been any news today?


Besides that people start to compare the ending to twilight? ... none.


Oh god. There's nothing more on this earth that I hate more than Twilight D:


ld1449 wrote...

Where are these elusive Catalyst defenders??? I have yet to see one of the rare creatures in person

 

Not a thread. Talking to a friend, who is an idiot.


What exactly did he say??? I have yet to hear a single concrete argument that holds water

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Atrocity wrote...



Nope, I have this nice image of Duncan running little hairy internet-pyjaks, who keep saying things like 'the ending was really deep u just 2 stupid to get it whiners' or 'i really don't see why people hate twilight', through.

Good that he has an armour though, I wasn't kidding about the saliva, it's dangerous s***, once the infection enters blood-stream, there's nothing to do but to ask your comrades to end your pain swiftly. Might also be corrosive, haven't tested that yet.


Would you like to run tests on seashells?

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Computim wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Phew.. Arguing against those defending the Catalysts logic is hard work. Has there actually been any news today?


Where are these elusive Catalyst defenders??? I have yet to see one of the rare creatures in person


I've heard that they are like the Yeti - plenty of stories about them but no concrete evidence that they really exist. ;)


I thought I saw one a couple weeks ago... turned out they just hadn't finished the game yet.  Image IPB


I though I saw one digging in my back garden last week. I shot it...but it turned out to be some guy cleaning the drains out.

I've also got a few blurry pictures someone 'claims' to be one, but I think it was just a mountain cat. I've heard of someone saying they found their footprints on some message boards, but again I'm not convinced...the prints look more like that of the Internetious Trolliaus to me. A very common species that can be found lurking behind many an innocent looking post.

#59448
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just for speculation :
How about Miranda lied to you about the Control Chip ? Once you land on Cerberus base, TIM gets control of you. One of the reason why EDI insisted to join you on the mission ? Probably she knows about it and wants to save you .

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Have faith and Hold the line.

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anything new? I've sort of been out of the loop.