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[GSS115]

xsdob wrote...

(snip)


But how do you know their isn;t a happ ending?, without context, you don't know if sacraficing shepard is truly that bad.

Oh snap,  I just read what the dude posted.  Yeah Disregard.

Modifié par GSS115, 01 mars 2012 - 09:27 .

[MrAtomica]

xsdob wrote...

GSS115 wrote...

MrAtomica wrote...

This situation is not particularly promising for Bioware any way you look at it.

"There is a happy ending." - We know they're lying.

"You lack the proper context to fully appreciate the endings." - The disappointed are still disappointed, the skeptics are still skeptical, the war rages on regardless.

"Sadly, you are correct." - Corporate suicide. The forums explode with rage, everyone gets spoiled completely. See my avatar for the result of that SNAFU.

"This is what we created, deal." - Same as above, except even worse. Not even a fantastical option by any approximation.

"No comment." - Anger, speculation, etc. continue on. Still, there is the promise of many people in denial coming to the defense of the devs, and the people claiming we lack context support the devs as well. The fan base will still get rowdy after release, but there are no further incriminating statements.

Out of these, I can see why silence is, indeed, golden.

I concur.

But how do you know their isn;t a happ ending?, without context, you don't know if sacraficing shepard is truly that bad.

From the spoilers. There are 3 actual endings, but 7 variations in total. None of those is what I would consider "happy". As Cheez has pointed out, there is *some* hope still remaining, but it's entirely subjective as to how much it would matter.

[middlemarching]

I'm sure this request has made the rounds a lot today, but could someone take a moment to PM me links to the existing footage of the endings?

[Armass81]

xsdob wrote...

how is destroying the relays blasting the galactic community back to the dark ages? What, does this blast release magic energy that somehow destroys the extranet, omnitools, FTL drives, propulsion systems, all ezero in the galaxy on every planet, spacecraft fuel, electricity, smart people, and entire vessels? I mean, the quarians alone could probably develop ships that could travel in space pretty easily.

The technology being used is not experimental, only been out for a decade, type tech. Some of it is centuries old, not something that everyone can just forget how to make over night. It's like saying that at the end of a game, all the roads in the world get destroyed, and now people not only can't use cars the way the used to, but don't know how to build the wheel, use a phone, or use their mouths to orally communicate.

I bet that after a few decades and some restructuring in the galaxy, the galactic community will restore themselves to some for of ore rand begin rebuilding. Or did the magic energy make them forget how to send transmissions, or use comm buoys, or how to press the on button.

It doesnt blast it back to dark ages, it only destroys the reapers, geth, EDI and the Mass Relays. Everything else is spared. Relays can be rebuild with time, and we have plenty of that now since there will be no more cycles.

Modifié par Armass81, 01 mars 2012 - 09:27 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Risselda wrote...

239 pages and no bioware comment

Probably because they are laughing at it.  People say they aren't commenting because it's all true.  I say it's because we don't have all the context (in game dialogue and scenes).  They are definitely reading it, however.  

They know they have another half*** DA2 situation on their hands -- what are they going to say?

[Elegana]

Risselda wrote...

239 pages and no bioware comment

There have been comments. They're in the form of Tweets and Interviews, though.

[TekFanX]

Armass81 wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

So, has anyone seen the Good Destroy ending yet?

Yes I saw it. It shows Shepard resting in the ruins of London, and shows her/his chest taking a deep breath indicating that She/he survived.

Mhhh...if the endings turn out to be true(I'm european, so I can watch for two days how it all turns out and stay "relatively" calm), this might be just the xenomorph/alien hatching from Shepards chest.
The final cherry on it.

[albertalad]

Abram730 wrote...

recentio wrote...

Alderman89 wrote...

 Big babys! stop griefing Bioware with this trivial thing.. There will be several endings, changeing on how you play..
so don't be such douchbags and cry on the forums! wait until the game comes out, before you complane!
If Bioware had any sence, they would send out copys of the game to all you who cry on the forums, with a locked ending, worst possible! where everybody dies! please! if the ending in the released game is not to your liking, well, then, suck it up! they can't please everybody. never seen so much selfishness before.. *look at me, i'm angry cause Bioware don't cater to my every needs!* grow up people!

Sure they can please everyone. It would be easy. Just have one ending where Shep and his LI and crew survive together (in a place where Tali and Garrus aren't doomed). Problem solved.

They've made a name for ME by trying to please everyone. Want MP? We'll add it. Want s/s romance? We'll add it. Want to skip conversations and just watch cutscenes? We'll add it.

So they should just add a 'live or die together' ending, and all will be well. I just can't accept having all the people Shepard cares about being torn away forever no matter what I do. That sucks.

People were very upset about Liara... what did they do?... I think they fixed that quite well. I just think you are blowing it out of proportions. I don't get why a heroic death is so repulsive to so many? It seems like not one game ever can have a heroic death without rage.  The galaxy isn't worth the crew of the Normandy?  That selfish?  It's FO3 again... How dare they force me to be a hero.. those jerks.

Heroic death? There is nothing heroic in death - just death. It is far more difficult to live with the aftermath of the Reapers then to somehow, in this case forced on everyone by BW, rebuild life from the devestation. That's the hard part - death is the easy way of of the real struggle yet to come.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

So then there is no footage of the normandy crash landing on a planet? Just them stepping off the normandy according to different inputs? I would think that the normandy landing on a planet would be pre rendered. 

By seeing the video (the uploaded one, not sure if there's another part later with the Normandy crash landing), just when the Normandy seems to break apart, it cuts abruptly.

It's like "Did the Normandy get destroyed? Did it survive?"

But from what the leakers say, the Normandy is always crash-landed and either the crew gets out (Joker and your 2 favorites or something) or noone does.

Meh.

Modifié par Ghost Rider LSOV, 01 mars 2012 - 09:29 .

[Switish]

Theres an ending where you get stranded on candy island....but die from too many calories.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Armass81 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

how is destroying the relays blasting the galactic community back to the dark ages? What, does this blast release magic energy that somehow destroys the extranet, omnitools, FTL drives, propulsion systems, all ezero in the galaxy on every planet, spacecraft fuel, electricity, smart people, and entire vessels? I mean, the quarians alone could probably develop ships that could travel in space pretty easily.

The technology being used is not experimental, only been out for a decade, type tech. Some of it is centuries old, not something that everyone can just forget how to make over night. It's like saying that at the end of a game, all the roads in the world get destroyed, and now people not only can't use cars the way the used to, but don't know how to build the wheel, use a phone, or use their mouths to orally communicate.

I bet that after a few decades and some restructuring in the galaxy, the galactic community will restore themselves to some for of ore rand begin rebuilding. Or did the magic energy make them forget how to send transmissions, or use comm buoys, or how to press the on button.

It doesnt blast it back to dark ages, it only destroys the reapers, geth, EDI and the Mass Relays. Everything else is spared. Relays can be rebuild with time, and we have plenty of that now since there will be no more cycles.

Can't destroy the Reapers without murdering the Geth and EDI? 

Yeah.. OK... whatever, Bioware. 

At least now I can say for certain that Origin is not making me miss anything worthwhile, so I guess there's some upside to the worst writing yet in a Bioware game I've looked at.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 01 mars 2012 - 09:30 .

[TekFanX]

Switish wrote...

Theres an ending where you get stranded on candy island....but die from too many calories.

Oh...poor Joker. Being fat with frolic-syndrome...

[Nerevar-as]

xsdob wrote...

how is destroying the relays blasting the galactic community back to the dark ages? What, does this blast release magic energy that somehow destroys the extranet, omnitools, FTL drives, propulsion systems, all ezero in the galaxy on every planet, spacecraft fuel, electricity, smart people, and entire vessels? I mean, the quarians alone could probably develop ships that could travel in space pretty easily.

The technology being used is not experimental, only been out for a decade, type tech. Some of it is centuries old, not something that everyone can just forget how to make over night. It's like saying that at the end of a game, all the roads in the world get destroyed, and now people not only can't use cars the way the used to, but don't know how to build the wheel, use a phone, or use their mouths to orally communicate.

I bet that after a few decades and some restructuring in the galaxy, the galactic community will restore themselves to some for of ore rand begin rebuilding. Or did the magic energy make them forget how to send transmissions, or use comm buoys, or how to press the on button.

Well, in the other endings apparently said energy transform organics and synthetics in something halfway through, and the red one somehow can tell what´s an AI and destroy them.

I think FTL is preserved, but the galaxy would be a lot bigger without relays. Compare travelling today with 2000 years ago.

[Sashimi_taco]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

So then there is no footage of the normandy crash landing on a planet? Just them stepping off the normandy according to different inputs? I would think that the normandy landing on a planet would be pre rendered. 

By seeing the video (the uploaded one, not sure if there's another part later with the Normandy crash landing), just when the Normandy seems to break apart, it cuts abruptly.

It's like "Did the Normandy get destroyed? Did it survive?"

But from what the leakers say, the Normandy is always crash-landed and either the crew gets out (Joker and your 2 favorites or something) or noone does.

Meh.

Fromt he script leak it doesn't say that they land on an uncharted random planet though. It says they just come out of the ship. Nowhere in the hammer and sword thing does it say that. 

[Armass81]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

how is destroying the relays blasting the galactic community back to the dark ages? What, does this blast release magic energy that somehow destroys the extranet, omnitools, FTL drives, propulsion systems, all ezero in the galaxy on every planet, spacecraft fuel, electricity, smart people, and entire vessels? I mean, the quarians alone could probably develop ships that could travel in space pretty easily.

The technology being used is not experimental, only been out for a decade, type tech. Some of it is centuries old, not something that everyone can just forget how to make over night. It's like saying that at the end of a game, all the roads in the world get destroyed, and now people not only can't use cars the way the used to, but don't know how to build the wheel, use a phone, or use their mouths to orally communicate.

I bet that after a few decades and some restructuring in the galaxy, the galactic community will restore themselves to some for of ore rand begin rebuilding. Or did the magic energy make them forget how to send transmissions, or use comm buoys, or how to press the on button.

It doesnt blast it back to dark ages, it only destroys the reapers, geth, EDI and the Mass Relays. Everything else is spared. Relays can be rebuild with time, and we have plenty of that now since there will be no more cycles.

Can't destroy the Reapers without murdering the Geth and EDI? 

Yeah.. OK... whatever, Bioware. 

At least now I can say for certain that Origin is not making me miss anything worthwhile, so I guess there's some upside to the worst writing yet in a Bioware game I've looked at.

Yeah the thing is EDI and the geth have reaper tech in them, its explained in the game. Too bad for them.

Modifié par Armass81, 01 mars 2012 - 09:32 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

albertalad wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

recentio wrote...

Alderman89 wrote...

 Big babys! stop griefing Bioware with this trivial thing.. There will be several endings, changeing on how you play..
so don't be such douchbags and cry on the forums! wait until the game comes out, before you complane!
If Bioware had any sence, they would send out copys of the game to all you who cry on the forums, with a locked ending, worst possible! where everybody dies! please! if the ending in the released game is not to your liking, well, then, suck it up! they can't please everybody. never seen so much selfishness before.. *look at me, i'm angry cause Bioware don't cater to my every needs!* grow up people!

Sure they can please everyone. It would be easy. Just have one ending where Shep and his LI and crew survive together (in a place where Tali and Garrus aren't doomed). Problem solved.

They've made a name for ME by trying to please everyone. Want MP? We'll add it. Want s/s romance? We'll add it. Want to skip conversations and just watch cutscenes? We'll add it.

So they should just add a 'live or die together' ending, and all will be well. I just can't accept having all the people Shepard cares about being torn away forever no matter what I do. That sucks.

People were very upset about Liara... what did they do?... I think they fixed that quite well. I just think you are blowing it out of proportions. I don't get why a heroic death is so repulsive to so many? It seems like not one game ever can have a heroic death without rage.  The galaxy isn't worth the crew of the Normandy?  That selfish?  It's FO3 again... How dare they force me to be a hero.. those jerks.

Heroic death? There is nothing heroic in death - just death. It is far more difficult to live with the aftermath of the Reapers then to somehow, in this case forced on everyone by BW, rebuild life from the devestation. That's the hard part - death is the easy way of of the real struggle yet to come.

What's the old quote? 

"Duty is as heavy as a mountain; death is as light as a feather."

[Hyrist]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Alderman89 wrote...

EJ107 wrote..

Alderman89 wrote...
Forum haters suck!

No U!

No U!

No U! 

Translated to english for posterity's sake.

Everyone has their own method of enjoying (or not enjoying the content.) 

They're even entitled to their feedback.

However, I must state that in my personal opinion, this outrage is a bit overblown. It's ok to have an opinion, everyone has them, kinda like bumholes.

But just because we have them, dosen't give us the right to wipe our dirty buttcracks all over the park lawn.

If you do or do not like what you have heard, fine, but be sure to respect the opinions that differ from yours. I question the outrage, and I think people take this far, far out of line when it comes to knee-jerk reactions. But both sides are guilty of that.

Game is 5 days off. I think we'll have a better informed opinion, on both sides. Once the majority of the posters here have actually finished the game.

Personally, I play for more than just the ending - but the ending is a reasonably important part too. I'll see later if the ending fits with what the game actually leads up to.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Armass81 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

how is destroying the relays blasting the galactic community back to the dark ages? What, does this blast release magic energy that somehow destroys the extranet, omnitools, FTL drives, propulsion systems, all ezero in the galaxy on every planet, spacecraft fuel, electricity, smart people, and entire vessels? I mean, the quarians alone could probably develop ships that could travel in space pretty easily.

The technology being used is not experimental, only been out for a decade, type tech. Some of it is centuries old, not something that everyone can just forget how to make over night. It's like saying that at the end of a game, all the roads in the world get destroyed, and now people not only can't use cars the way the used to, but don't know how to build the wheel, use a phone, or use their mouths to orally communicate.

I bet that after a few decades and some restructuring in the galaxy, the galactic community will restore themselves to some for of ore rand begin rebuilding. Or did the magic energy make them forget how to send transmissions, or use comm buoys, or how to press the on button.

It doesnt blast it back to dark ages, it only destroys the reapers, geth, EDI and the Mass Relays. Everything else is spared. Relays can be rebuild with time, and we have plenty of that now since there will be no more cycles.

Can't destroy the Reapers without murdering the Geth and EDI? 

Yeah.. OK... whatever, Bioware. 

At least now I can say for certain that Origin is not making me miss anything worthwhile, so I guess there's some upside to the worst writing yet in a Bioware game I've looked at.

Yeah the thing is EDI and the geth have reaper tech in them, its explained in the game.

Whatever.  It only works out that way because Bioware decided that the Reapers could only be killed with a magic McGuffin.

[Darth Malice113]

Nyaore wrote...

Risselda wrote...

239 pages and no bioware comment

Frankly I think it's part company policy, because the same thing happened with DA2, and part because nothing they say at this point will qwell the flames. 

Anything they say would be an offical statement. If they made one then it would spread like wildfire throughout the world of gaming media. By keeping their mouths shut all the outside  world has to go on is "BSN hysterics".

[mulder1199]

Elegana wrote...

Risselda wrote...

239 pages and no bioware comment

There have been comments. They're in the form of Tweets and Interviews, though.

problem is, in the interviews they are seemingly thinking most folks are gonna like the end....

[Sia_Sinblade]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Risselda wrote...

239 pages and no bioware comment

Frankly I think it's part company policy, because the same thing happened with DA2, and part because nothing they say at this point will qwell the flames. 

Anything they say would be an offical statement. If they made one then it would spread like wildfire throughout the world of gaming media. By keeping their mouths shut all the outside  world has to go on is "BSN hysterics".

They made statements in Twitter and other social madia. PR is still hard at work. 

[Johnnycide]

TekFanX wrote...

Switish wrote...

Theres an ending where you get stranded on candy island....but die from too many calories.

Oh...poor Joker. Being fat with frolic-syndrome...

I still prefer the ending where Conrad Verner rides in on an Elcor to save the day, flinging Hanar and Volus.

[FJVP]

If any of you people wish to see the endings so far I can give you the links. Just PM as I'm not sure if posting them here is appropriate.

[cotheer]

nvm >_>

Modifié par cotheer, 01 mars 2012 - 09:37 .

[kingsims]

"Choice is an illusion" - George Calin