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CatManDoo44

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Phoenix NL wrote...

CatManDoo44 wrote...

Geinen wrote...

If you check the mass effect reddit about the leak, I want to highlight the comment of Redpriest because he's spot on:

"You guys are being played.
This is written directly for this type of audience - the EA bashing
thrown in for good measure. This is the definition of a troll, and not
even a good one.

"After speaking with a close friend who is an attorney, I've decided
to take the risk of of expounding."

His close friend/attorney is a frigging idiot if he advised him it
was "okay" to post this stuff. This, if, true, would be tantamount to
theft of intellectual property and they would go after him, hard.

"Nothing was more heartbreaking than the moment when Dragon Age 2, which was not yet in alpha status"

This right here destroys any credibility this person had. ^ It's also
written to pander to an audience that, typically, doesn't like DA2. If
anyone has ever done any soft of software development or game
development, you'd realize how bogus a statement that would be. A game
in pre-alpha status is by definition nowhere near ready to be shipped.
It would be filled with bugs. Filled."




Precisely.  Also, a really small point, but one that American fans would not pick up: Canadians never call lawyers "attorneys".  It's a very American thing.  I'm a law student and it just doesn't happen except for "Crown Attorney" or "Attorney General", which are official titles.  And given how long this guy has supposedly been at Bioware, he has to be Canadian.

Well I don't know if they do it in a similar way to the UK but here they use the terms Solicitors and Barristers.


We're very much the same, having inherited the English common law. (And I'm using the term English on purpose since English and Scots law is traditionally different.)

#60602
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Nharia1 wrote...
Don't know if you've already wheighed in on the latest topic, but what's your take on the whole 4chan "leak"?

for about 5 years now, has been dominated by EA Games' strict timetables
and budget restraints.

That's my problem with it, I'm by no means an EA fan, but this looks like "It's cool to bash EA"; I'm sorry, but I see this as a get out of jail for free card for Bioware, they are responsible for their game not EA.

#60603
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Iucounou wrote...

Perhaps a better name for it, considering the end state of ME3 would be

Mass Starvation


That is terrible, but I laughed at it anyway. :lol:

That's actually an important part that people need to remember and focus on. Everyone in Sol is going to starve to death if you take everything you've seen into consideration. That's arguably worse than being harvested by the reapers.. so are we really doing the galaxy a favor?

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VonVerrikan wrote...

Iucounou wrote...

Perhaps a better name for it, considering the end state of ME3 would be

Mass Starvation


That is terrible, but I laughed at it anyway. :lol:

That's actually an important part that people need to remember and focus on. Everyone in Sol is going to starve to death if you take everything you've seen into consideration. That's arguably worse than being harvested by the reapers.. so are we really doing the galaxy a favor?


This makes me think..  The simple answer is no, but the reality is even worse.  you see, a bullet, or a light beam either one, dont have a concience. Once fired  they will both proceed in a comparitively straight line till they impact something.. SO? Well, here you are on a planet watching as thousands of reapers desend to tear that planet apart, and alll of a sudden, her comes the galactic armada firing hundreds of thousands of weapons all at once, all aimed for your bright sunny little acre of hope..  at least a third of all those weapons are going to miss their intended target, which means those weapons are going to hit somewhere else. Probably where your standing.
What the reapers didnt destroy, the galactic armada would have without intent, reduced to ashes. The only humans that would survive would be very deep underground..

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DJBare wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...
Don't know if you've already wheighed in on the latest topic, but what's your take on the whole 4chan "leak"?

for about 5 years now, has been dominated by EA Games' strict timetables
and budget restraints.

That's my problem with it, I'm by no means an EA fan, but this looks like "It's cool to bash EA"; I'm sorry, but I see this as a get out of jail for free card for Bioware, they are responsible for their game not EA.



I almost agree with you there, EA would prefer a game going out that wouldn't cause themselves backlash. Thats not good for business. BUT EA is at some fault because I am sure they were pushing them to relese it. I think the blame should go to both EA and Bioware.

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Good night everyone. Have to get up early tomorrow.

Hear You all tomorrow. Hold the line and keep faith. We will get the endings we aks for.

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Here you go, just for some random laughs http://youtu.be/fTdwvLT15Ro B)

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kiiiiii wrote...

smudboy strikes at me3 :)



I know he is very hated on bsn, but I always felt his arguments were very solid.
Nevertheless, its worth a watch if you agree with him or not.


Why is he hated? I a watching his me 1 & 2 analyses right now and apart the fact that he is very nitpicky, his arguments make sense. Obviously one can question why someone would do such an in depth analysis that will necessarily find some plotholes. But that aside, I don't think he wants to tear apart the ME universe. His conclusion of ME1 was infact that it is a great game with a great story, besides all the minor and major plotholes he found.

His arguments on the ME3 intro are solid as well. It does not in fact introduce new players very well to the story, and it alienates ME veterans, since the trial that was supposed to happen if you played ME 2 DLC Arrival, is never shown. He is right that ME3 feels like an independant game at some points, which is a bad thing! It should feel VERY much connected to the previous titles. This independance continues later on in  the story, as we see that all our choices are irrelevant (Rachni, who is human counselor, and, of course, the ending)

So... I like that guy!

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Hey everyone! Anything earth-shattering happen in the last 12 hours? :)

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http://social.biowar...ndex/10560313/1

Have we reached consensus about this yet?

#60611
laughing sherpa girl

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Ampmaster wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/10560313/1

Have we reached consensus about this yet?


its a fake.. ignore it..

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Ampmaster wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/10560313/1

Have we reached consensus about this yet?


bs

#60613
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Ampmaster wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/10560313/1

Have we reached consensus about this yet?


Likely fake.  iirc it's sourced to 4chan, which should speak for its possible validity

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Ampmaster wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/10560313/1

Have we reached consensus about this yet?


A very imaginative fake :lol:

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I like how everyone says Mass Shift + possible ending dlc (with suicide!) is fake. I like it. B)
It needs to be April soon...

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Woke up today and realized i actually no longer really care about Mass Effect at all (at least for now). No expectation that we will see anything more than a halfarsed dlc attempt to "explain and provide closure" or that this is a pr stunt and "real endings are being held or that anything like the indoc theory is true.

In fact it all made me critically go over the game and realize that there are signs of a rush job all over it. Still consider it a good game as such but not at all worthy of the end to an epic series.

I will probably hang around until PAX and then its over for me as far as ME/Bioware is concerned.

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Alikan wrote...

Woke up today and realized i actually no longer really care about Mass Effect at all (at least for now). No expectation that we will see anything more than a halfarsed dlc attempt to "explain and provide closure" or that this is a pr stunt and "real endings are being held or that anything like the indoc theory is true.

In fact it all made me critically go over the game and realize that there are signs of a rush job all over it. Still consider it a good game as such but not at all worthy of the end to an epic series.

I will probably hang around until PAX and then its over for me as far as ME/Bioware is concerned.


This.  The ending clearly wasn't the only thing that was rushed.  Which is awful.  I would have gladly waited longer (a lot longer) for a more complete game. 

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TamiBx wrote...

I like how everyone says Mass Shift + possible ending dlc (with suicide!) is fake. I like it. B)
It needs to be April soon...


The thing is, i dont believe Shepard would suicide. His friends, brothers and sisters and all of the rest, died so that he and others could go in living.  He'd never be able to face them in the afterlife, if he killed himself..

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agreed, almost an indoctrinating quality to it lol, i didnt think i was going to listen the whole 30 minutes for the first two but there i was, listening the whole way through haha


haha.. exactly the same here. 


Other than saying "Blizzard" when I think he meant to say "BioWare" near the end, he makes some good points.  I don't agree 100%, but I'm about 95% onboard with his ideas and concepts I think.  Here's the link again for those who might miss it.  3rd video in the Archengeia series on ME3, long at 41 minutes but pretty good still I think.  First 2 videos in my sig, the first one at the very least is worth the time to watch.

Mass Effect 3: Responses to Comments, The Importance of Choice, and The Indoctrination Theory



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laughing sherpa girl wrote...


The thing is, i dont believe Shepard would suicide. His friends, brothers and sisters and all of the rest, died so that he and others could go in living.  He'd never be able to face them in the afterlife, if he killed himself..


The suicide thing was an Ashley/Kaidan branch, I thought.

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Here's my thoughts for what its worth on endings - BW needs to change just one thing. All along I was thinking the power of the Reapers lies in the shielding - not their numbers - but it is their shields that allowed so few in numbers to overwhelm the vast majority. Without their shields the Reapers were dead meat with one big gun each - nothing more than flying/walking space cannons. Now if the catalyst took down their shields then we'd have some real fun on numerous worlds clearing out Reapers which would still take very good fleets and some awesome action yet to come. Just clearing out Reapers from Earth would have been incredible and intense - and that is where I thought the multi-player would play a major role in those other battles. That would have been one hell of a game - the action intense - the possibilities for others to rise in other systems and so on. Just my hope for what the catalyst should have accomplished and what BW could do and make their entire gaming much, much better all around.

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Geinen wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...


The thing is, i dont believe Shepard would suicide. His friends, brothers and sisters and all of the rest, died so that he and others could go in living.  He'd never be able to face them in the afterlife, if he killed himself..


The suicide thing was an Ashley/Kaidan branch, I thought.


On the fake dlc/Mass Shift info? Yeah, Ash/Kaidan branch.
But...wouldn't sacrificing yourself also count as suicide? :huh:

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laughing sherpa girl

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Bioware?? Are you reading what these good people are saying?? You really should you know.. They know what a good story consists of and have some extremely good ideas..

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Unrelated to ME3 but I just tried playing ME1 again. I couldn't do it, had to stop playing after the opening mission, but looking at the graphics, I wouldn't mind if at some point in the future Bioware were to re-release it with updated graphics like they did with Halo recently.

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So... we have decided that this "Mass Shift" thing is a hoax, yes? I'm glad - it sounds terrible, and the claims make no sense, in any case.