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#60626
laughing sherpa girl

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TamiBx wrote...

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The thing is, i dont believe Shepard would suicide. His friends, brothers and sisters and all of the rest, died so that he and others could go in living.  He'd never be able to face them in the afterlife, if he killed himself..


The suicide thing was an Ashley/Kaidan branch, I thought.


On the fake dlc/Mass Shift info? Yeah, Ash/Kaidan branch.
But...wouldn't sacrificing yourself also count as suicide? :huh:


Yup. it does, and is worthy of the greatest insult one could recieve in the seventies..  "Martyr".

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TSC_1 wrote...

So... we have decided that this "Mass Shift" thing is a hoax, yes? I'm glad - it sounds terrible, and the claims make no sense, in any case.

I'm almost positive it's a hoax, but then if you would have leaked me the actual ME3 ending pre release I probably would've said the same thing so I don't even know what to believe.

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TamiBx wrote...

On the fake dlc/Mass Shift info? Yeah, Ash/Kaidan branch.
But...wouldn't sacrificing yourself also count as suicide? :huh:


I don't think it would.  I would gladly give my life for my friends, for peace.  I wouldnt classify that as suicide.

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Hydralysk wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

So... we have decided that this "Mass Shift" thing is a hoax, yes? I'm glad - it sounds terrible, and the claims make no sense, in any case.

I'm almost positive it's a hoax, but then if you would have leaked me the actual ME3 ending pre release I probably would've said the same thing so I don't even know what to believe.


Yeah, that's kind of my concern, too. It seems utterly implausible... but my trust in Bioware has been eroded to the point that I believe it just a little bit.

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Yup. it does, and is worthy of the greatest insult one could recieve in the seventies..  "Martyr".


...if I took a bullet for you, you'd be insulted?

#60631
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Geinen wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

On the fake dlc/Mass Shift info? Yeah, Ash/Kaidan branch.
But...wouldn't sacrificing yourself also count as suicide? :huh:


I don't think it would.  I would gladly give my life for my friends, for peace.  I wouldnt classify that as suicide.




The difference is the intent. IF you indend to die to hopefully save your friends lives, its suicide, but IF you intend to keep living and are fighting for your friends, its an honorable thing if you fall..

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60642 people failed to understand the theme of the ME universe.

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"no death ruleset"

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Geinen wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Yup. it does, and is worthy of the greatest insult one could recieve in the seventies..  "Martyr".


...if I took a bullet for you, you'd be insulted?


If you did it explicitly for no other reason than to take a bullet, then yes. I wouldnt even waste the bullet on you myself, just walk away in disgust. 

Look, when i step in between a combatant and a friend, i have every single intention of walking away from that fight. I am NOT going to get killed by some bozo with a frikking pop gun. But if i DO get killed, i got killed fighting to live, and not simply save my buddies ass..

Modifié par laughing sherpa girl, 25 mars 2012 - 07:12 .


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Hydralysk wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

So... we have decided that this "Mass Shift" thing is a hoax, yes? I'm glad - it sounds terrible, and the claims make no sense, in any case.

I'm almost positive it's a hoax, but then if you would have leaked me the actual ME3 ending pre release I probably would've said the same thing so I don't even know what to believe.

If it was real they wouldn't have let it stay up on the forum board it would have been taken down faster then you could say space magic. :wizard:

After reading it the only thing I could think about how slow your squad would be. Hanar, volus, and an elcor it would take a half hour to walk across a room.

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

The difference is the intent. IF you indend to die to hopefully save your friends lives, its suicide, but IF you intend to keep living and are fighting for your friends, its an honorable thing if you fall..


 If I know that the only way to keep my troops alive was going to result in my death, I would take that choice. 

If, however, you are speaking in the terms of Shepard and his self-destructive options in ME3 endings...then I totally agree with you.  Those options made no sense and his death was needless.

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

The difference is the intent. IF you indend to die to hopefully save your friends lives, its suicide, but IF you intend to keep living and are fighting for your friends, its an honorable thing if you fall..


So you're basically saying that it's not honorable to sacrifice yourself for the lives of friends? You'd only do it when you think you have a chance to make it out alive? Flawed argumentation.
The term "suicide" has a bad reputation, wouldn't use it in this context anyway.

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Dj14365 wrote...

After reading it the only thing I could think about how slow your squad would be. Hanar, volus, and an elcor it would take a half hour to walk across a room.


LOL.

Yeah, obviously fake, *phew* luckily.

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Dj14365 wrote...
After reading it the only thing I could think about how slow your squad would be. Hanar, volus, and an elcor it would take a half hour to walk across a room.


They wouldn't actually; because when the player starts to run, the squadmates are put in 'fast forward' mode. I.e. they don't have their own sprinting animations, but just start walking/jogging at 2x the framerate. Benny Hill ending style....

That's one reason why the Anderson running animation looks so funny.

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

If you did it explicitly for no other reason than to take a bullet, then yes. I wouldnt even waste the bullet on you myself, just walk away in disgust. 

Look, when i step in between a combatant and a friend, i have every single intention of walking away from that fight. I am NOT going to get killed by some bozo with a frikking pop gun. But if i DO get killed, i got killed fighting to live, and not simply save my buddies ass..


...Im not suggesting that sacrificing your life means you have to be a complete idiot and throw yourself infront of every danger you come across so that your friends dont get hurt.

I agree with you there completely.  I think we are speaking on two different levels here. 

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WvStolzing wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...
After reading it the only thing I could think about how slow your squad would be. Hanar, volus, and an elcor it would take a half hour to walk across a room.


They wouldn't actually; because when the player starts to run, the squadmates are put in 'fast forward' mode. I.e. they don't have their own sprinting animations, but just start walking/jogging at 2x the framerate. Benny Hill ending style....

That's one reason why the Anderson running animation looks so funny.


hehe yeah that always made me giggle...

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Geinen wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

The difference is the intent. IF you indend to die to hopefully save your friends lives, its suicide, but IF you intend to keep living and are fighting for your friends, its an honorable thing if you fall..


 If I know that the only way to keep my troops alive was going to result in my death, I would take that choice. 

If, however, you are speaking in the terms of Shepard and his self-destructive options in ME3 endings...then I totally agree with you.  Those options made no sense and his death was needless.


:D precisely. That one moment, is an extremely personal moment. I dont think any writer outside of perhaps Audey Murphy could accurately describe it. And i dont think any of us who had the experience, could actually describe it. Its a headspace that is even after the fact, inconcievable.

#60642
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Annaleah wrote...

WvStolzing wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...
After reading it the only thing I could think about how slow your squad would be. Hanar, volus, and an elcor it would take a half hour to walk across a room.

They wouldn't actually; because when the player starts to run, the squadmates are put in 'fast forward' mode. I.e. they don't have their own sprinting animations, but just start walking/jogging at 2x the framerate. Benny Hill ending style....

That's one reason why the Anderson running animation looks so funny.

hehe yeah that always made me giggle...

Now imagine Anderson had 8 legs and was pink, hilarious.:lol:

#60643
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how many people are lurking in the background

me 1

#60644
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toffeetrooper wrote...

how many people are lurking in the background

me 1


I usually check and see how the forum is doing almost every day.

#60645
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Me +1

#60646
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Well, good bye for now.
Homework to do.

Hold the line :)

#60647
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Let's not spam please folks, if you wish you make your presence known add some content to your post in relation the the subject at hand.

Hold the line!

Modifié par DJBare, 25 mars 2012 - 07:28 .


#60648
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I have always lurked. As for that Mass Shift, if that was true, I think it'd get another 4 letter term starting with S if it followed that plot line. Has to be a troll (I hope.)

Hold the line!

#60649
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toffeetrooper wrote...

how many people are lurking in the background

me 1


Millions and Millions and me just cos I don't have anything intelligent to say Image IPB

#60650
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toffeetrooper wrote...

how many people are lurking in the background

me 1


Ah you got me +2 ;)