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[silencemayday]

lurking as well. just.. waiting. and currently working on summing this whole thread up. or the 'important' bits at least.

but actually going through this thread (currently page 624) is really crushing. till like 540 there was so much hope that the endings were just a joke.. then personal reviews started pouring in.. and from there on it's downhill. so much pleading, bargaining, depression and so on. as a writer or dev at bioware, i'd be crying by now. for having messed up something this big so badly. just because of pretty much 15 minutes.

archengeia is summing it up pretty good as well.. just saying that the writers didn't seem to care much about mass effect 3. not that they actually wanted to sabotage it, but that they simply didn't care. which is quite sad.. of course, good games can still come from people who don't actually care and are just doing their jobs. but it is not surprising when it shows that they're just doing another job. and actually, it shouldn't be. i grew up with artists as parents (and even grandparents and half-brothers.) and when i learnt one thing, it is- when my heart isn't in it, i should consider not doing it at all. why become a writer for anything at all, when i can't bring myself to care for what i'm doing? why write a book, a movie, a tv show or a video game? why draw a painting, design a sculpture or a character when i couldn't care less?

and bla. sorry. going through this whole thread is really dragging me down at the moment. also excuse the grammar or any mistakes. i wouldn't even be able to sum up my feelings in russian, french, spanish or even german right now.

[VonVerrikan]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

ps3oldmike wrote...

i wonder if this all just to make it so there is never a new ME game?

There never will be  new Shepard, but with a universe as big and diverse as this one is, the possiblities for new Mass Effects games are limitless, unless Bioware really screws it up again..

But how? Unless you mean prequels, I can't see that being the case. Everyone is going to die in current canon, or at the very least be so sepperated that the universe as it stands won't be around anymore. And then it's not really Mass Effect anymore.

And if it's a prequel, how are we supposed to find the motivation to play it when we know everyone and everything is going to die horribly in 2186 anyway? 

[Dj14365]

DJBare wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...
I'm always lurking in the background, but, i'm not as young as most ofyou so i have no business in most of your conversations. Still, i have real life experience to call on, and I try and interject what i can when it seems appropriate.

I'm 52 years old, you have as much business to this conversation as the next person.

 
I'm 18 and know a few other people on here that range from the age of 15-45. There have been posts from every corner of the globe. As long as you have played the games, loved the ME universe,and were upset over the ending you have business here. It doesn't matter what shape, size, color, or age you are.

[nitefyre410]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...


There never will be  new Shepard, but with a universe as big and diverse as this one is, the possiblities for new Mass Effects games are limitless, unless Bioware really screws it up again..

Too late they already screwed up... the  Dark Energy Plot had the potential to spawn an actually  sequal trilogy. Think about it... After refusing the Reapers solution... Shepard and the gang save the galaxy but now heavy research goes into trying to solve the Dark Energy issue.   The new trilogy can take place 100 to  500 years later.... with a new cast, new conflicts all around actually solving the Dark  Engery Problem. 

[Phoenix NL]

cyrrant wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

It's just a little frustrating that we have gotten no concrete information from Bioware. *sigh* not long until April I guess but I think that this has gone on long enough.

Take a break.  The line will be here when you get back.

This is going to take a while, and we don't need people burning out after 2 and a half weeks.  I, myself, will be heading to the gym in a while and I've promised myself not to check the forums on my phone between sets.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

Too true. I'm going to leave it for tonight. Take care all.

[RDSFirebane]

[quote]VonVerrikan wrote...

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*snip*

And if it's a prequel, how are we supposed to find the motivation to play it when we know everyone and everything is going to die horribly in 2186 anyway? [/quote]

be woundering that myself why would I play a prequel when I cant even make myself play the other 2....

Modifié par RDSFirebane, 25 mars 2012 - 07:50 .

[TamiBx]

Geinen wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

The difference is the intent. IF you indend to die to hopefully save your friends lives, its suicide, but IF you intend to keep living and are fighting for your friends, its an honorable thing if you fall..

 If I know that the only way to keep my troops alive was going to result in my death, I would take that choice. 

If, however, you are speaking in the terms of Shepard and his self-destructive options in ME3 endings...then I totally agree with you.  Those options made no sense and his death was needless.

Haha, I was asking in ME3 context (the current endings). I mean, that Shepard believed in every single thing the creepy kid said and was like "Ok, I'll sacrifice myself, no big deal"...or that's how I felt 
I wouldn't consider saving your friend from a bullet and dying in the process as suicide/sacrifice. You couldn't possible know you were going to die for sure, and you were protecting someone at the moment. But in ME3 ending...

[toffeetrooper]

nitefyre410 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...


There never will be  new Shepard, but with a universe as big and diverse as this one is, the possiblities for new Mass Effects games are limitless, unless Bioware really screws it up again..

Too late they already screwed up... the  Dark Energy Plot had the potential to spawn an actually  sequal trilogy. Think about it... After refusing the Reapers solution... Shepard and the gang save the galaxy but now heavy research goes into trying to solve the Dark Energy issue.   The new trilogy can take place 100 to  500 years later.... with a new cast, new conflicts all around actually solving the Dark  Engery Problem. 

it would at that. But as it is there core fanbase is not happy so they should fix the trilogy theyve got at the moment to keep us interested

[Kyria Nyriese]

Usually very lurky, however, this has brought out the vocal side of me so I've been spouting off all over the place /sigh

I wish I could go back to lurking /sigh

[laughing sherpa girl]

VonVerrikan wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

ps3oldmike wrote...

i wonder if this all just to make it so there is never a new ME game?

There never will be  new Shepard, but with a universe as big and diverse as this one is, the possiblities for new Mass Effects games are limitless, unless Bioware really screws it up again..

But how? Unless you mean prequels, I can't see that being the case. Everyone is going to die in current canon, or at the very least be so sepperated that the universe as it stands won't be around anymore. And then it's not really Mass Effect anymore.

And if it's a prequel, how are we supposed to find the motivation to play it when we know everyone and everything is going to die horribly in 2186 anyway? 

I truly wish i had that answer for you, but i dont. I can imagine that with the seediness of Omega, the gargantuan size of Illium, The expanse of the migrant and geth fleets, that there are thousands of stories to tell, just none on such a grand universal scale.

[toffeetrooper]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Usually very lurky, however, this has brought out the vocal side of me so I've been spouting off all over the place /sigh

I wish I could go back to lurking /sigh

im the same even now when i wright something i worry how it would be taken

[Seival]

Nimiria wrote...

I am here, too. Still hoping, that something happens, and reading from time to time (sometimes writing a bit, but don´t want to be a spammer).

Just started to replay ME 1 and now 2 and I must say its great but I am 100 % sure, when I am done with ME 2 I will not play ME 3 again since the ending is just not okay. In ME 2 you can fly around and talk with the people etc. after all is done.

I would like something like that in ME 3, too. Having some kind of home (or stay at the normandy and "live there) with the love interest (or alone for all nonlovers) would be great, too.

Could be interesting to visit different places after the invasion and see rebuilding etc. everywhere.

Before I finished ME3, I wanted to make 1 more playthrough (ME1+ME2+ME3), and also had big plans for ME3 multiplayer... But ME3 ending ruined everything... I just can't play ME... I'm just waiting, and don't know what to do...

[GroverA125]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

ps3oldmike wrote...

i wonder if this all just to make it so there is never a new ME game?

There never will be  new Shepard, but with a universe as big and diverse as this one is, the possiblities for new Mass Effects games are limitless, unless Bioware really screws it up again..

Only problem is that they ended it in such a way that means that means we can assume that every civilian who isn't Krogan and Quarian are dead, there are no relays, there's absolutely no fast-travel method readily available, and of course, virtually everyone is trapped in Sol, with very little land available and no nearby solar systems to live in. So frankly, it's going to be a dull new page for the franchise. Unless we win, of course.

It's a shame. Rannoch was so beautiful...

Modifié par GroverA125, 25 mars 2012 - 08:03 .

[Matt_gekko88]

< likes this
http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/

but Computim says it's fake :<

Modifié par Matt_gekko88, 25 mars 2012 - 08:10 .

[Annaleah]

toffeetrooper wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Usually very lurky, however, this has brought out the vocal side of me so I've been spouting off all over the place /sigh

I wish I could go back to lurking /sigh

im the same even now when i wright something i worry how it would be taken

I've gone back to lurking because I guess I can't think of anything to say that doesn't warrant being yelled at.

[cyrrant]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Usually very lurky, however, this has brought out the vocal side of me so I've been spouting off all over the place /sigh

I wish I could go back to lurking /sigh

I wish you could too.  Not because I don't like the stuff you say, but because if you could that would mean that the endings were fixed and no longer retroactively ruining the entire franchise.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

[NobodyofConsequence]

Some random thoughts on the game, seems like the best place to put them.

Bought ME1 release day. Beat the game on insanity with all classes and a mix of Shep/Femshep. Replayed entire runs with just two or three different choices just to see what difference it would make to ME2.

Pre-orderd ME2. Beat the game on insanity with all classes and a mix of Shep/Femshep. Loved that little things from ME1 popped up, even though the VS's role irked me (my canon SpaceJesus Shep romanced Ash).

Pre-ordered Collector Edition ME3. Had high hopes based on the demo. Was away on work for two weeks after launch without the chance to play the game. Made a point of NOT browsing forum in case of spoilers. Returned home, spent three days solid playing. Noted instances of foreshadowing of a Shep sacrifice possibility. Got to the end almost without realising it was the end. Chose synthesis, as my canon Space-Jesushep would make that sacrifice for peace between synthetics and organics. Noted to self all the questions the game had not answered for me. Loaded from last save and replayed last sequence, chose Destroy ending. Frowned as that ended almost identically. Thought echoed in head: "Is that it?". All those hours of exploring permutations, encouraged by the actual game design of presenting those choices, and it matters not a wit.

Love MP, but I am unlikely to replay ME3 more than once or twice, in comparison to the hundreds of hours I've put in to ME1 and 2. Not nerd raging, but feel deflated. I've never anticipated a game so much in my life, for as long, and while I was not expecting this to be my perfect ending, this just missed the mark by so far for me, as to beggar belief.

And for the record, if you want to see the kind of ending I'd hoped for, watch the last few minutes of the final episode of Six Feet Under for an example of how these things could have been done.

Yes, all said before, but I need the vent.

[Thore2k10]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

VonVerrikan wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

ps3oldmike wrote...

i wonder if this all just to make it so there is never a new ME game?

There never will be  new Shepard, but with a universe as big and diverse as this one is, the possiblities for new Mass Effects games are limitless, unless Bioware really screws it up again..

But how? Unless you mean prequels, I can't see that being the case. Everyone is going to die in current canon, or at the very least be so sepperated that the universe as it stands won't be around anymore. And then it's not really Mass Effect anymore.

And if it's a prequel, how are we supposed to find the motivation to play it when we know everyone and everything is going to die horribly in 2186 anyway? 

I truly wish i had that answer for you, but i dont. I can imagine that with the seediness of Omega, the gargantuan size of Illium, The expanse of the migrant and geth fleets, that there are thousands of stories to tell, just none on such a grand universal scale.

prequel wouldnt work imho...

dont need a grand "save the whole universe" plot, but when i know, that everything goes down regardless of what i do...  not a good motivation to buy that stuff

[laughing sherpa girl]

toffeetrooper wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Usually very lurky, however, this has brought out the vocal side of me so I've been spouting off all over the place /sigh

I wish I could go back to lurking /sigh

im the same even now when i wright something i worry how it would be taken

I'm only gonna say this once. You cant worry about what other people think of you. The ONLYY perception of you that shoyuld matter is your mown. We think nothing bad of someone because they may be different.  We are ALL different.  American Otaku if you want to call us that.. These are good people here for the most part, and the others dont matter. Speak up and dont be afraid.. Hold to your guns and you'll be respected.

[nitefyre410]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

< likes this
http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/

 

Hmmm so the comments 4 days ago might not have been fake... either way we still can't prove  whether they were or were not fake( I personally believe that they were real).  Mods have come out and said they are fakes...I take that with grain of salt. Still with no real proof so nothing more we can do with that but shelve it and speculate.

[Computim]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

< likes this
http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/

This one was already confirmed fake by Chris Priesly... and the guy who was alleged to have wrote the article haha.

There are a LOT of idiots coming out of the woodwork now, there's already been a couple cases this week of people trying to get RetakeME3 fans to download 'new endings' which simply try to get your personal information to sell to marketers... and probably install viruses..

There are people scamming for a variety of reasons.  I guarantee if you worked for Bioware for 8 years (as that latest 'leak' states) and do contract work in a very narrow field of work, you're not going to leak something and basically identify yourself.

More than likely someone decided to initiate a forgery, found some stuff on the Bioware website, found some information on an employee who worked for Bioware, and then put together an elaborate story with all of that just to get some attention... if you don't want attention or a laugh why visit 4chan in the first place?  We got fooled by the ending marketing material.. fool me once shame on you.  Don't let someone else fool us twice over the same exact thing... it just makes us look gullible at that point.

Modifié par Computim, 25 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[TamiBx]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Usually very lurky, however, this has brought out the vocal side of me so I've been spouting off all over the place /sigh

I wish I could go back to lurking /sigh

Hmm...there is a reason I have my real nickname as my name on here: never thought I would actually post anything on BSN. Ever.
It took me forever to register my games, and only did it for DA:O mods and even then I just lurked and never said anything.
Now...

[Nayt Navare]

I dislike greatly the new rumors.

Holding the line... with angst.

[Sir Bum]

LookingGlass93 wrote...

I was prepared to be forced to see Shepard have to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the galaxy. I wouldn't have liked it but I was prepared for it. I was even prepared to see the Normandy and crew die, or Earth be a devastated ruin. I wasn't prepared for what they did to the galactic civilization.


The ending makes me feel like everything Shepard and co. did, all they sacrificed, was for nothing. These endings don't count as victory. It's just trading one horrible fate (the Reapers) for another one (the collapse of civilization)

This is exactly what I was going to say. What LookingGlass describes would count as a "Bittersweet ending". What we got isn't so much "Bittersweet" as an utter failure, no matter what you do. Destroying the Mass Relays ensures that everyone (not to mention those stranded on other planets) will, quite truly, be "forever alone". Galactic society has been destroyed, just as surely as if the Reapers won. What kind of resolution is that?

[Seival]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

< likes this
http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/

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